Curious, did they just send you a new one or did you return your original for proper milling?
XTR III Illuminated in my hands
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Very happy to report my quest for the external windage turret has been successful thanks to the generosity of another member.... RFutch was kind enough to send me his turret and my XTR 3i is now suiting my years of training with external knobs. I'm still working with the holds in the SCR2 and they are growing on me but old habits are hard to break! Thanks to The Hide for the platform and a special call out to RFutch!
Did we ever find out if the 3.3-18 version had a thicker reticle than the 5.5-30?
Don't suppose you have any pictures of the reticle in the illuminated 3.3-18 to compare?
If the reticle is thicker in the 3.3 then I'll buy one of those, if not I may as well get a 5.5-30.
Atleast to begin with....
Has anyone directly compared the XTR3 glass to the XTR3i glass in a 5.5-30 version?
I’m contemplating upgrading a scr XTR3 to a scr2 XTR3i that can also serve as a hunting scope, if glass quality doesn’t drop off.
I’m contemplating upgrading a scr XTR3 to a scr2 XTR3i that can also serve as a hunting scope, if glass quality doesn’t drop off.
I just received mine. So far the glass looks really good and the controls are very nice. Like others, I think the reticle looks a bit thinner in person than I was expecting (needing more of an SPR scope than a PRS scope, was hoping this would fit the bill for both).
Regarding illumination, is anyone else very underwhelmed by it? I certainly wasn't expecting Aimpoint or Vortex Razor illumination out of this, but even in overcast daylight at max brightness, I cannot even tell that it's on. At a setting of 5 with maximum magnification in a pitch black room with the objective cap closed, I cannot see the illumination at all. I'd certainly expect that from the first couple settings for NV use, but I'd figure that 5 would be at least visible in pitch black conditions. Is this common? I have tried a couple different brand new batteries to make sure that's the issue. Please don't take this as a complaint, just an inquiry. I'm just thinking that between the real world thinness of the reticle and the less than I was hoping for illumination, it may be even less appropriate as an SPR scope than I was hoping it would be.
Regarding illumination, is anyone else very underwhelmed by it? I certainly wasn't expecting Aimpoint or Vortex Razor illumination out of this, but even in overcast daylight at max brightness, I cannot even tell that it's on. At a setting of 5 with maximum magnification in a pitch black room with the objective cap closed, I cannot see the illumination at all. I'd certainly expect that from the first couple settings for NV use, but I'd figure that 5 would be at least visible in pitch black conditions. Is this common? I have tried a couple different brand new batteries to make sure that's the issue. Please don't take this as a complaint, just an inquiry. I'm just thinking that between the real world thinness of the reticle and the less than I was hoping for illumination, it may be even less appropriate as an SPR scope than I was hoping it would be.
My xtr pro at max brightness you can’t tell if it’s on in daylight. I never use illumination so haven’t really tested it in low light to see how it works
I am assuming you have the 3.3-18, I have the US version and felt the reticle was too thin for my old(er) eyes for SPR type use, I know a lot of users have worked with it just fine for hunting in low light, but the reticle got lost with busy backgrounds and I thought it could benefit from illumination.
Well that doesn't sound right, if you can't see illumination in pitch black then it appears it is not working.
I agree, seems something is wrong.
I would agree, but let's let some of those with working illumination see if they can help out before having to ship back to Burris for warranty. Good news is Burris has a really good warranty and pretty good turn around time - well actually, that was for the US version which was assembled and repaired up in Greeley, Ja do you know if Greeley will still manage repairs on the new XTR IIIi or are these going somewhere else? I would think Burris would handle all repair/warranty claims in Greeley in lieu of past history but a little backup on that with someone in the know would be good
Does anyone with an XTR IIIi also have the XTR III Pro and can you verify if illumination works the same on both models? It's possible Burris is using a different (better) illumination module on the USA built Pro model than they are on the Philippine model but again some verification from someone in the know would be good.
Just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly, the new XTR IIIi is not capped but has the threading for a cap on the windage turret?
If you're not able to see setting 5 in pitch black something is wrong. I can see my setting 5 in a room with some natural light coming in. Maybe send an email to Burris and see what they say?
That's my middle nameYou got it bass ackwards Bill
That makes more sense Ja, thanks for clarifying.
Birddog, are you able to make out the illumination outdoors? I'm certainly not expecting "daylight bright" but I'd hope for it to be at least visible in daylight settings where it's overcast or looking into darker woodlines.
Thanks for the responses!
Thanks for the responses!
Great, thanks for the explanation. I agree with the use case for illumination. I think for me, I was hoping for a bit more usability as an SPR scope where a lower magnification or SFP scope might really be more appropriate, or at the very least a scope like this with an offset red dot for closer shots. Thank you very much for your help, you've been incredibly helpful in several threads.
Wasn't sure where to put this, so thought it best to post here where there are a lot of XTR IIIi owners. Earlier in this thread (or maybe another) it was mentioned that the new XTR IIIi only has a capped windage but that the exposed turret from the original XTR III would work. Well guess what... I just found, my old "extra" turret from my old XTR III 3.3-18 (mrad version) as well as my backup 50mm sunshade.
Here's the deal, I am willing to offer these for free, that's right FREE, I won't charge you a dime, in fact I will ship it to you for FREE, consider it my pay it forward gift. There is however one thing I ask, guessing that a few of you would like this unicorn part, so here's the deal, if you are interested I would like you reply here and tell me why you need this exposed turret so desperately, after a few days I will choose which story I like best - share your your sob story, or your funny story or heck, any story at all... If we get at least 3 stories by Wednesday 09/14 I'll choose which story I like best and PM you for your address and off it goes with nothing else from you
Here's the deal, I am willing to offer these for free, that's right FREE, I won't charge you a dime, in fact I will ship it to you for FREE, consider it my pay it forward gift. There is however one thing I ask, guessing that a few of you would like this unicorn part, so here's the deal, if you are interested I would like you reply here and tell me why you need this exposed turret so desperately, after a few days I will choose which story I like best - share your your sob story, or your funny story or heck, any story at all... If we get at least 3 stories by Wednesday 09/14 I'll choose which story I like best and PM you for your address and off it goes with nothing else from you
If you get no stories posted I would sure could use it, I been crying like a little bitch for buying the IIIi with out the windage cap, and one day I will do like you and pay it forward to another here on SH...Wasn't sure where to put this, so thought it best to post here where there are a lot of XTR IIIi owners. Earlier in this thread (or maybe another) it was mentioned that the new XTR IIIi only has a capped windage but that the exposed turret from the original XTR III would work. Well guess what... I just found, my old "extra" turret from my old XTR III 3.3-18 (mrad version) as well as my backup 50mm sunshade.
Here's the deal, I am willing to offer these for free, that's right FREE, I won't charge you a dime, in fact I will ship it to you for FREE, consider it my pay it forward gift. There is however one thing I ask, guessing that a few of you would like this unicorn part, so here's the deal, if you are interested I would like you reply here and tell me why you need this exposed turret so desperately, after a few days I will choose which story I like best - share your your sob story, or your funny story or heck, any story at all... If we get at least 3 stories by Wednesday 09/14 I'll choose which story I like best and PM you for your address and off it goes with nothing else from you
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Winner winner chicken dinner.
Go figure, either nobody wants to write anymore or not many really need this. Send me a PM with your address and I’ll get it shipped off
I finally got my XTR3i 3.3-18 this weekend. Initial lead time was end of July and that got pushed several times until it just showed up at my door yesterday. Mounted it onto my 6.5 creed PRS rifle and took it out to the range. Illumination is definitely only good for dimly lit conditions. I had to cover my objective to confirm it was on when I had it on 11 looking at stuff in broad daylight. To my eyes, the reticle would still be useable on 3.3 power. I compared the FOV to my SWFA 3-15 just looking at the fence about 25 yards away in my backyard and I could fit 2 more fence slats in the FOV at 3.3x vs the 3x on the SWFA. I took the Burris out to 1000 yards today and tracking seemed to be true as it lined up exactly with my data. I was able to see trace most of the way to the target and impact location (grey dot) on steel at 700 yards. At 1000 yards I could only tell where I hit based on the targets reaction. I did accidentally have the Kestrel set to my 300 win mag for my first couple shots at 1000 yards, so I missed quite low. I did not see the impacts in the berm for 2-3 shots. I feel like I can usually see misses like that with my Gen 2 razor at the same range. Although, the higher magnification of the razor probably helps with that. I am not the greatest judge of glass, but the XTR3 is certainly significantly better optically than my SWFA. I got the XTR3 to replace the SWFA on my 300 win mag, but it arrived after both my deer seasons and in the middle of my elk season. It’ll be on the 300 for bear in the spring to get some in field testing.
3.3 zoom at 100 yards and illumination on 11:
18x at 100 yards and illumination at 11
3.3x at 700 yards looking at a 2/3 IPSC (white object to right of center crosshair)
18x at 700 yards. 2/3 IPSC
3.3 zoom at 100 yards and illumination on 11:
18x at 100 yards and illumination at 11
3.3x at 700 yards looking at a 2/3 IPSC (white object to right of center crosshair)
18x at 700 yards. 2/3 IPSC
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Excellent! I can now have matching turret knurling.. How/when/where can you get hold of them?
Curious how other people's illumination is working... just got my new 3-18 a couple day ago. The battery cap doesn't put enough pressure on the battery to engage the illumination (I thought it straight up didn't work for a couple day). If I hold the battery down firmly with my fingers (cap off) it turns on. The cross hair lights up well but the Christmas tree is very dim. The milling numbers are unreadable. Just curious mostly about how well others reticle is illuminated.
That looks great. At low power mine is only the center cross. At high it bleeds varing brightness throughout the tree. I'd take a photo but it's not working again. I've got a ticket into Burris but they're not very responsive. Obviously I have problems with my on/off feature that needs to be addressed. Thanks for your photo.
I’ve had issues with the battery cap not staying in place when needing illumination. The most recent time was a first light hunting situation with an elk at 180 yards. The battery cap loosened and I wasn’t able to turn the illumination on. Pretty frustrating. After that, I cranked down on the cap pretty hard and it engages just fine. I like the scope, glass is good, but that illumination setup isn’t the most user friendly.
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also have bleed through at setting 9 and above throughout the whole reticle.
And that’s fine. I should have messed with it more before using it in the field. Elk still died, so all is well.
Very nice, well built, nice turrents, reticle, very sharp clear. Hope to shoot this weekend.
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