Zero for laser on rifle
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I would play with a ballistic calculator.
You can enter negative sight height for your under the barrel laser and see what the trajectory looks like.
Remember that your bullet ALWAYS DROPS, right out of the muzzle.
For close ranges, there isn't going to be much difference from one AR round to another.
For example,
Try -2 inches, 62 grains, 2500 to 2900fps, and either a 25yd or 40yard zero for the laser.
Then use those values and see what a 7 or 10 yd zero does out to 50 yds.
Scope on top (+2"), laser on bottom (-2") 25yd zero on both.
You can enter negative sight height for your under the barrel laser and see what the trajectory looks like.
Remember that your bullet ALWAYS DROPS, right out of the muzzle.
For close ranges, there isn't going to be much difference from one AR round to another.
For example,
Try -2 inches, 62 grains, 2500 to 2900fps, and either a 25yd or 40yard zero for the laser.
Then use those values and see what a 7 or 10 yd zero does out to 50 yds.
Scope on top (+2"), laser on bottom (-2") 25yd zero on both.
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I would play with a ballistic calculator.
You can enter negative sight height for your under the barrel laser and see what the trajectory looks like.
Remember that your bullet ALWAYS DROPS, right out of the muzzle.
For close ranges, there isn't going to be much difference from one AR round to another.
For example,
Try -2 inches, 62 grains, 2500 to 2900fps, and either a 25yd or 40yard zero for the laser.
Then use those values and see what a 7 or 10 yd zero does out to 50 yds.
Scope on top (+2"), laser on bottom (-2") 25yd zero on both. View attachment 7219229
Great, I'll study this for a bit. Thanks!
I have a green Laser on an SKS.
Daylight @ 25 yards and it works OK. I don't have to cheek down to use the open sights.
I guess for home defense hitting an inch or so low at a closer range probably isn't all that bad.
Zero the laser @ 7 yards and watch out for planes
Daylight @ 25 yards and it works OK. I don't have to cheek down to use the open sights.
I guess for home defense hitting an inch or so low at a closer range probably isn't all that bad.
Zero the laser @ 7 yards and watch out for planes
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I have found that a long range zero works decently at short range. A short range zero is way off at long range. This for COM type shooting. For precision, you need zero at range you will shoot.
I have a green Laser on an SKS.
Daylight @ 25 yards and it works OK. I don't have to cheek down to use the open sights.
I guess for home defense hitting an inch or so low at a closer range probably isn't all that bad.
Zero the laser @ 7 yards and watch out for planes
View attachment 7219374
lol
I know lots of people who use them and swear by them. I hate that they use batteries. I hate the way they screw up my natural aim. I just hate, hate, hate them in general (except the burning ones in the light-saber like cases). I would never rely on one at home and certainly wouldn't take one into battle. I'm probably more and more in the minority, but I think learning to point shoot with both pistol and rifle, rather than aiming using a sight or a laser, is a super huge and important shooting skill that everyone should develop, and I feel like lasers completely fuck that up. Again, good on you if they make you a better marksman, but they make me suck.
To me it's a target illuminator and the target is you. I get a bright, blinding light at night, but not a laser unless maybe it's 5w green beam that burns anything it hits like a MFer. Bursting into flames would definitely distract someone trying to shoot you.
Why you would need one up close is beyond me. Learn to shoot your firearms and you won't need a laser.
Rant off. I mean no disrespect, and as I said, I'm probably in the minority.
For whatever reason all that hatred turns to love when it's a reflex type sight (even the ones that use a laser for the dot)...
To me it's a target illuminator and the target is you. I get a bright, blinding light at night, but not a laser unless maybe it's 5w green beam that burns anything it hits like a MFer. Bursting into flames would definitely distract someone trying to shoot you.
Why you would need one up close is beyond me. Learn to shoot your firearms and you won't need a laser.
Rant off. I mean no disrespect, and as I said, I'm probably in the minority.
For whatever reason all that hatred turns to love when it's a reflex type sight (even the ones that use a laser for the dot)...
I use mine for a different purpose. I take young kids hunting. I have them line up crosshairs on the animal. I turn on laser and if/when correct I have them shoot. Saves me some tracking at times.
I do an "infinity zero" (called several other names as well)
Zero the day optic at the normal distance.
Then, at night, with a PVS-14 looking thru the back end of the day optic (if the laser is an ir-laser) aim at something far away ... the farther away the better ... then adjust the laser elevation and windage until the laser is in the center of the cross hairs. And then you've zeroed your laser at the same distance your weapon is zeroed, without shooting and its very fast.
If you have a vis laser, you don't need the 14, but best to do it at night so you can see the vis laser several hundred yards out.
This could also be called a "parallel" zero, if you are far enough out.
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I only shoot with ir-lasers at night and usually in the woods inside 150yds ... usually much closer, going after varmints near my chickens and calves.
Zero the day optic at the normal distance.
Then, at night, with a PVS-14 looking thru the back end of the day optic (if the laser is an ir-laser) aim at something far away ... the farther away the better ... then adjust the laser elevation and windage until the laser is in the center of the cross hairs. And then you've zeroed your laser at the same distance your weapon is zeroed, without shooting and its very fast.
If you have a vis laser, you don't need the 14, but best to do it at night so you can see the vis laser several hundred yards out.
This could also be called a "parallel" zero, if you are far enough out.
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I only shoot with ir-lasers at night and usually in the woods inside 150yds ... usually much closer, going after varmints near my chickens and calves.
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