Rifle Scopes ZOS 10x40-60 IR mildot scope ???

[Megacab]

Yep, I bought one. From eBay, naturally! I had to...I'm a sucker for "big honking cheap mall-ninja scopes" that are as big as the rifle and have rediculous magnification that I don't even need. 40x at 100 yards? Hell yeah! Plus it's a mildot! Plus, it's illuminated! Plus, it's 60mm! Plus, sono poco shamo! So why the hell not???

It's on a plane heading my way as we speak. It should be here, mounted, evaluated, tested, and had it's life wrung out of it by Sunday night of next week. So stand by for a <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">FULL</span></span> writeup. And yes, I am going to put the sunshade on it too, lol.

And yes, I know it all already, so save it for someone that hasn't seen it a hundred times...
"it's garbage"
"it's Chinese"
"you get what you pay for"
"save till you can get a good one"
"should have bought a USO"
"should have bought an S&B"
"should have bought a Leupold"
"should have bought a Nightforce"
"Blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah"



Sheddap...I'm doing it for my amusement and knowledge, to pass the information along (as this IS the purpose of this forum, yes?), and mostly because I am a bit twisted like that (and if you've been following along with my postings, you already know this).
So what the hell. Who knows, if it's as good as the 10x40 Tasco that I sold (stop laughing, I actually got one of the older GOOD ones, so KMA!), I'll be alright. And if it's garbage (like I think it will be), I can *cough*NOBODY's break-in*cough* it a bit, and return it claiming it was broken, and get a refund. I still have the 4.5x14-40 Nikon mildot I usually use, after all.


Plus, I KNOW you sadistic bastards will be friggen drooling to read the review I write just hoping it exploded upon firing of the first round! And if you still feel the need to chime with anything resembling the above in quotes about my buying this scope, even after what I have just told you it's intended purpose is :
Lei è un leccacazzi ed un orecchione, vaffanculo fancazzista...

 

[lazy21]

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you sir need help

 

[razzle]

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+1

Looking forward to this one, most useless thing I've seen in a while

 

[G38]

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+1 Sounds kinda like therapy to me!

 

[UPSguy]

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Hey, those rings look like they'd work on a .22 tip off style of base, maybe I found the perfect scope for my son's first rifle

 

[HotIce]

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Looks incredibly similar to a Barska SWAT. IMO they're exactly the same and re-branded. If that's the case, I've some bad news for you

 

[kolejohnson]

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I kinda did the same thing with the "bushnell" off of ebay a while ago, its gonna get a bullet hole one of these days, couldn't even get enough windage out of it to get it on target, the seller was in Hong Kong and didn't wan't nothing to do with it. Oh well, I've wasted $100 worse than that before.

 

[Two Shoes]

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My sentiments also, wonder if they make it past shot 1...........

 

[MAGUA]

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Did it come with those heavy duty rings

you gotta show pics when you do the Carlos Hathcock scope test

 

[kolejohnson]

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Very soon, thinking ar-50, but maybe a 204 would sneak in there better.

 

[Megacab]

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Ahhhhh sooooo, Joe! Numba wun posaman deriver box tooa me froma China! Was izzit? Ressa see!


Well, I have to give the seller legitimate credit for getting it to me 3 DAYS after my payment to him cleared. I can barely get something sent somewhere in the US to arrive 3 days later when I SEND IT 3 DAY. +1 for him. But it came in it's display box without being overcartoned and padded. -1 for him. Box wasn't damaged in the least though. It was taped up insanely well though. From Shanghai, China to Stoughton, Massachusetts with no damage and fast as well. Nice.

OK, here's the scoop. This will be a REAL review. Unaffected by the "WOW! I GOT A NEW AND SHINY TOY!" I don't give a rats ass that I spent MY hard-earned money on it. If it is good, I will tell you. If it sucks, I will tell you as well. No holds barred review...

Yeah, I know : "Shut up and get on with the review, Jack!"

Box is strangely heavy. Hope this just isn't an empty box with 1/2 a brick in it, lol (I've actually heard of that happening, and this IS eBay after all). OK, let's get it out of the box and see what we have...No miscellaneous unrecognizable pieces floating around inside, so no initial damage noted. That's a good sign.

OK, what is all this stuff anyway? It looks like :
1 scope
1 sunshield
1 occular cap
1 objective cap
1 parallax wheel
1 scope cloth
1 white box
1 battery
1 silica packet
1 instruction flier (Written IN ENGLISH!!!)

Time to kick the tires of this thing. I ordered a 10-40x60mm scope with an illuminated mildot reticle. Yep, got what I ordered. That's a plus. Initial impression? This fuggin thing is big AND heavy. I figured it would have a metal 30mm tube with plastic knobs/turrets, scopeshade, and wheel. Nope, it's ALL metal. That's why it's so heavy...

 

[Megacab]

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Time to check the important details. Turret checks and details...
Elevation and windage turrets are 1 5/6" wide and 7/8" tall, 1/8" per click. 60 clicks for each turret for 1 complete revolution. Elevation has 7 full rotations, plus 8 clicks from fully bottomed to fully raised, so 428 total clicks available. Windage has 7 full rotations, plus 16 clicks, so 436 total clicks available. I spun the hell out of them from fully bottomed to fully raised for about 2 minutes per knob. Fast and slow, intermingled. Stayed the same number of clicks when I done playing with them, and stayed the same solid and audible "click" per turn. No loosness/wobble of turrets noted, but slightly sloppy back-and-forth movement between clicks. At least they are metal, large in size and numbers are large as well. Flathead screw secures turret covers. O-ring under securing screw, and O-ring on barrel as well. Stanchions are oiled/greased as well. Not excessively so either

Illuminated reticle information. I opened the rheostat cover to put the battery in, and suprise, it was already there. Cool, they gave me a spare. Cover is a screw on, with O-ring as well. No tools need for battery replacement. Dial goes from 0 to 11 with no stops in either direction. Spun the hell out knob for 2 minutes as well. Tactile clicks, no audible "click" noted. Interesting note/feature : There is a "hollow" pause space between each number that allows you to leave the knob in between printed numbers, thus shutting off the illumination so you don't have to spin it back to 0 to shut it off. Nice feature. Bad feature? Brightest setting (11) casts a VERY noticable red halo glare around the perimeter of the eyepiece, and turns the mildot into a red plus sign (it washes out the dots completely). This is especially noticable upon "mooning". Setting 10 isn't much dimmer than 11, but there is none of the glare issues noted on setting 10. Only the mildot is illuminated on the reticle, not the bars/posts. And in case you are wondering, eye relief is about 3 3/4".

Yep, it's a 10-40x alright. Edges of adjustment ring are raised and slightly sharp. There is one post that stands alot higher than the other grooves at about 11 3/4. I can only imagine at this stage in the review that is the "mildot scaling point". We'll see, but it is clear that it is metal and it is SHARP. Not sharp enough to cut flesh from routine usage, but the corners are NOT rounded over and thus, there is the chance you COULD and WILL cut yourself if you grab it hard/wrong. Adjustment ring spins freely with no slack/wobble, and there is a small flathead screw to tighten or loosen clamping/spinning pressure. Not galling ot grittiness noted on 2 minute spinning session. Positive stops at 10 and 40.

Scope caps. Scope caps provided are soft elasticy rubber slip-ons with plastic covers. They smell like they were packaged up as soon as they were made. They are inherently cheap as hell, but they securely click closed, and readily flip open easily as well as staying tight on the scope with no slipping off. Not too good, not too bad. They are good enough I will save myself $20.00 by not having to buy Butler Creek's.

 

[Megacab]

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Now the "mysterious" white box...Ah, the scope rings. Let's take a look at these and...What in the HOLY HELL are these ghetto-ass, airsoft looking, Daisy BB gun, pieces of shit rings??? I will not even ATTEMPT to degrade my rifle but even TRYING to mount these fucking things! OK, back in the box, and straight to the trash barrel. I must cleanse my eyes of the image of these rings. Cheap ass son of a bitching...Be right back, must see porn...

Y'all still here? Good...



OK parallax adjustment knob. It's 1 3/4" wide and 5/8" high. Markings at 20, 30, 50, 75, 100, 200, 300, infinity. Positive stops, and smooth turning with no galling or grittyness noted. Passed the 2 minutes spin test just fine.

OK, I have a big wheel thing. Must be the Mall Ninja parallax adjustment wheel. What the hell, they included it, so let's see what it looks like mounted and...What the fuck? PFFFFFFTTTTTT!!!! OMFG ROFLMMFAO!!!! Oh, I am SOOOOO keeping this thing to remember it by. I will NOT mount it again, but fuck me, that's some funny shit!!!! Stupid-ass mall ninjas. No wonder we make fun of them so much! They DESERVE it for putting these things on. Makes the scope look like a...a...Huck Finn riverboat maybe? LOL!

Well, that about sums up the initial evaluation of the ZOS 10-40X60mm illuminated mildot scope.

Take away impressions? Finish of the scope is smooth and even (ignore any white spots on it. The spots are either lint, or random pieces of styrofoam that stuck to it). It's all metal with no excessively supercheap looking parts other than those jokes the call "scope rings" (even the parallax wheel is metal). All numbers are large and even, complete legible and easy to read, and passed the "finger rub" 2 minute test with no scratching or wiping off of any letters, numbers, or hash marks. Seems like a good deal for $190 shipped so far. Next evaluation will be after I get a set of 30mm rings (I'll get high ones just in case, so I know the 60mm objective will clear. <span style="color: #FF0000">If anyone HAS a set they want to donate to me quickly, fire me out a PM. You'll WILL get them back </span> ), and dial it in and shoot my rifle with it mounted. Will it hold a zero? Will I be able to see out of it? How is the glass? Will it self detonate after 1 round of .300WM? Will it box track? Is the mildot correct for range estimation at some power between 10 and 40? We will find out hopefully this weekend!

Oh yeah, I forgot!!!! It came with the lens cleaning cloth that says "ZOS" on it...

 

[HotIce]

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Megacab, it's exactly a Barska SWAT. I've one identical. Same exact packaging, same rings, same scope, different branding

 

[HotIce]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Megacab</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lei è un leccacazzi ed un orecchione, vaffanculo fancazzista...

</div></div>
Hahaha, I didn't notice this one

Are you I-talian by any chance?

(Translation: You're a dicksucker, fag, fuck you, - fancazzista does not parse, but "cazzo" is dick so it's open to many interpretations

)

 

[Megacab]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Megacab</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lei è un leccacazzi ed un orecchione, vaffanculo fancazzista...

</div></div>
Hahaha, I didn't notice this one

Are you I-talian by any chance?

(Translation: You're a dicksucker, fag, fuck you, - fancazzista does not parse, but "cazzo" is dick so it's open to many interpretations

)

</div></div>

LOL! Well done HotIce!! 10 Sniper Hide bonus points for you!!! Fancazzista is a gisted "a dick that has no value"
The loose/implied translation is "You're an effeminate cocksucking faggot. Fuck you, you worthless prick"
Si, sono Italiano.

Yep, I found that out it's basically a Barska when I looked into it. ZOS is the parent company, and they make/rebadge it for about 10 different brand names for it. HOPEFULLY since it bears the parent company's name on it, it won't be a complete piece of shit, lol. It also is a 30mm tube and a 60mm objective. Barska's 10-40x is a 1" tube with 50mm onjective. I know, basically same scope, but I like to think it's not a complete waste! But WE SHALL SEE!!! Hey worst case scenario? I'm out a few bucks for shipping if I have to return it...Just think of the entertainment I'm getting, and sharing.

 

[HotIce]

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Ok, I had actually three of them. I was able to get them for very cheap through a friend of mine and I was sure it was a full refund no question asked in case of problems. Thing that revealed itself to be very useful for two of them.
One did not hold zero, the other one had super-mushy turrets and was way off from correctly tracking.
The one that I kept is actually a pretty good scope for the money I paid ($150 or so, at that time).
I suggest you to do a tracking test and before calling it good, be sure to run a few rounds with it.

 

[Megacab]

Re: ZOS 10x40-60 IR mildot scope ???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Megacab</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Next evaluation will be after I get a set of 30mm rings (I'll get high ones just in case, so I know the 60mm objective will clear. <span style="color: #FF0000">If anyone HAS a set they want to donate to me quickly, fire me out a PM. You'll WILL get them back </span> ), and dial it in and shoot my rifle with it mounted. Will it hold a zero? Will I be able to see out of it? How is the glass? Will it self detonate after 1 round of .300WM? Will it box track? Is the mildot correct for range estimation at some power between 10 and 40? We will find out hopefully this weekend!

</div></div>

Thanks for the heads up on possible problems!

 

[HotIce]

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I saw that, but I don't have any free (as not mounted) rings. I've a set coming from EGW for my new rifle.
But, ... wait, I do have a set of Barska 30mm rings sitting somewhere. If you want them, I can mail them for free, and you can keep them

 

[firemedic5586]

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I stumbled upon your post while looking doing a search for this scope...

Did you ever finish your test of this thing?

Thanks,
A new guy on the block

 

[LiveOak]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firemedic5586</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I stumbled upon your post while looking doing a search for this scope...

Did you ever finish your test of this thing?

Thanks,
A new guy on the block </div></div>

I did the same. I realize this is an old post but I would be VERY interested in a follow up on this scope to hear just how it has held up and shot.

 

[LiveOak]

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Hey megacab. Just wanted to bump this back to the top in hopes you see it. Can you give us an updated evaluation of the scope now that you have had it for a substantial amount of time? Pro's....Cons??? Overall impression.

 

[Tombfyre]

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Likewise. I would like to know how the review went.
I mounted mine on a Savage Mark II .22 and it seems to work alright, but I would like to know how it works on larger calibers.

 

[milldot]

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Hello all,
Just joined the forum, in particular to bump this thread. I am very interested in hearing how Megacab got on on with this scope as I am interested in purchasing one myself. Any update? Thanks.

Milldot.

 

[OKIE2]

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while I lived in Yudu China for 23 months I bought a 10x40x56
scope just like this one for $93.00.
it is very clear at 40 power and I have it mounted on my 308
marlin XS7. everything has worked out fine. I would buy another one but only if I am in China. That way I get it half price and no shipping cost. And I am going back after the first of the year with my Chinese wife and daughter
to live 6 months every year beautiful country and friendly people.

 

[madmathew]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OKIE2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">while I lived in Yudu China for 23 months I bought a 10x40x56
scope just like this one for $93.00.
it is very clear at 40 power and I have it mounted on my 308
marlin XS7. everything has worked out fine. I would buy another one but only if I am in China. And I am going back after the first of the year with my Chinese wife and daughter
to live 6 months every year beautiful country and friendly people. </div></div>

Man, that is interesting!! China must be an exciting place to go to.

 

[OKIE2]

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Not only that cheap living see if you can live here on total of $300.00 a month a new 2 bedroom appartment $45.00 a month with $14.00 electric bill $3.25 water bill and $13.00 for phone with dsl net service the rest of the $300.00 was for food for 3 people. You think we don't get ripped off big time here???? JUST MY ELECTRIC BILL THIS MONTH WAS $292.00
And south China where I was they plant gardens every month of the year. 32 degree weather only at night lasted about 3 weeks that was winter totally. no heat in buildings anywhere.
Here is a good one we locked ourselves out of the house called a lock smith at 10:30 pm he came and unlocked 2 locks and charged us $0.70
If you want to know more write
[email protected]
BOB

 

[Pete E]

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Looked at the scope pictured and it reminded me of the Falcon Menace with the same oversized housing for the turrets...

 

[Panther308]

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...so how does this story end?

you got us interested, took our pants off and left the room?!!!!
WTF...
gotta finish what you started.

 

[LiveOak]

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I bought one of these scopes and installed it on a Savage Model 12 Varmint Low Profile .223 for my daughter to use.

I zero'd it for 200 yards. It holds a zero and the optics are relatively clear although parallax is a bit of an issue at high zoom levels. Changes in eye relief is even more noticable at high zoom.

Overall it is a good scope for the money so far. I bought this one from Sportsmans Guide for about $125 after using a $10 coupon code.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/10...y.aspx?a=453841