It's hard to take what you say seriously if you just dismiss the load data as "lawyer loads", you can see the pressure and there's 3rd party testing out there that confirms that the pressures are accurate. But again the question leads to, why don't you just shoot a cartridge with more case capacity and run a slower powder and achieve the same higher velocity at lower pressure?
"you can see the pressure" - sometimes I can and sometimes I don't . It is rare where the book is shooting the same barrel length, bullet, and case. My 308 loads usually show pressure in the primers - I shoot Federal 210Ms and 41.52 grains of IMR 4064. That is a moderate load going about 2,600 FPS - not hot. I shoot a 300 prc with 230 grain Bergers, 215M, H1000, and Lapua brass going 2,850. That is not a hot load - I have about 45 pieces of brass that went 16 full cycles without head separation. I expect to get more than 2,000 rounds thru my current barrel. I don't shoot hot because a barrel costs too much. I didn't say I shot hot, I said I know where pressure shows. I don't want to be close to that.
By the way, where is this 3rd party testing-pressure confirmation data with your barrel, powder, bullet, primer, case, and chamber? Where is that coming from?
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