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Was just coming here to post this… They’ve long since been discontinued, but got one of Leupold’s Mk4 1.5-5 scopes with the 300 BLK reticle in the first focal plane for one of my 300 BLK uppers back when they first came out:



If you can find one in good shape, that’s what I’d recommend. That said, if you’re just shooting subs, I’d just use a red dot with a magnifier or maybe an ACOG. I find shooting subs beyond 75 yards or so…hell, past 50 yards rapidly becomes an exercise in mortar ballistics! LoL

I really enjoy this scope with supers on hogs though… very good reticle for me.

theLBC said:

considering the adl and splc have been smearing charlie and tpusa, no way should shapiro be given the reigns to charlie's legacy.
no fucking way.
i'd be fine with stephen miller (also jewish), but the kids would leave crying.

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No jews.

Doesn't fit the narrative.

Sorry, no not sorry get your own fucking platform. Turning Point is not for them.

What the hell were any of you thinking.

Right wing Christian platform, a jew? May as well be a damned Muslim.

MWAlex2 said:

Florida Congressman Brian Mast has authored or sponsored several bills related to Israel and U.S. foreign policy, most recently the "Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act," and a controversial passport provision in the State Department Authorization Act.
"Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act" (H.R. 23)

• Purpose: This legislation, reintroduced by Mast and Rep. Chip Roy in January 2025, is intended to protect U.S. citizens and allies, including Israel, from investigations by the International Criminal Court (ICC).
• Key Provisions:
  • It would impose sanctions, such as visa revocations, on ICC officials who seek to investigate, arrest, detain, or prosecute American citizens or officials from allied nations.
  • According to Mast, the bill sends a clear message to the ICC that interfering with Israel's right to self-defense will have consequences.
• Status: A similar version of this bill passed the House in the previous Congress.

Controversial passport provision

• Purpose: In September 2025, Mast included a provision in a larger State Department authorization bill (H.R. 5300) that would have allowed the Secretary of State to revoke or deny passports to people deemed to have provided "material support" to a foreign terrorist organization.
• Controversy:
  • Civil liberties advocates, including the American Civil Liberties Union, criticized the provision as vaguely worded and susceptible to abuse, potentially criminalizing political speech and dissent.
  • The concerns came in the context of Secretary of State Marco Rubio's actions against foreign nationals for anti-Israel commentary.
• Status: Following public backlash and criticism, the controversial provision was withdrawn from the bill by Mast.

Other related legislation
The user's query may also be referring to several other recent bills related to U.S.-Israel relations and security that Mast has supported or that have been active in Congress:

• Israel Security Supplemental Appropriations Act: Multiple versions of supplemental appropriations bills have been passed by Congress to provide military and security assistance to Israel.
• Israel Security Assistance Support Act: This bill, passed by the House in May 2024, compels the delivery of approved defense articles and services to Israel and aims to prevent the executive branch from withholding aid.
• National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA): The FY2025 NDAA includes millions for Israeli security aid, such as funding for missile defense programs and cooperation on emerging technologies.
• United States-Israel Defense Partnership Act of 2025: This bill seeks to expand and deepen U.S.-Israel defense cooperation on emerging technologies, including counter-drone systems.

Some additional information on the bill, what has happened and other bills that are concerning

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sucks that this came from reps in my state. but so did the Zionists Rubio,Bondi and Noem. Trump too for that matter. Israel seems to have control of him with not much limit.1 of many provisions that should be considered is providing material support to a terrorist organization. our gov supports the terrorist organization Israel with billions of $ of free money and weapons every year. does the DOJ sanction the DOD and dept of state. be fun to watch that show.

It is wild to me that people who tend to agree that a sample size of 10 shots is a barely sufficient minimum for narrowing down a rifle's precision potential are fine with saying that dropping 10 scopes is enough to say an optic is reliable or not (a binary answer)... The reality is you can kill any optic, even a NF, hitting them just right in the right place. It doesn't take much variance anywhere for the show to stop.

People keep saying that some brands pass the test with flying colors, but we see posts here every week of "X brand shit the bed at a match" because it tapped an obstacle just right. Until someone is testing a statistically significant number of optics (hundreds minimum) in a fully controlled mechanical test with multiple simulated scenarios, drop tests are just a cruel game of RNG.

Sold offsite

FourT6and2 said:

They choose not to, though. It's a real thing called engagement farming. Even though the information is wrong, they know people will watch the video, interact and call them out on it in the comments, etc. This "farms" more engagement—earning them more clicks, views, comments, and revenue.

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Yeah, then they can make a second video about how they were wrong.

Thump_rrr said:

I use a bore mop that fits tight into the neck area soaked in boretech C4 I leave it in there for about 10 minutes. I then use a blue Iosso nylon chamber brush and spin it around by hand for about a minute then pass a clean bore mop in there.
It completely cleans it up in 1 or 2 applications.
I do this every 150-200 rounds whenever I clean the rifle.

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Do you use an oversized mop like a 30 cal for 6.5 or 7mm?

hermosabeach said:

I know this thread is a few years old so I figured it's time to ask, do people love this range finder?

Any follow up thoughts on the $2k investment?

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Hard to say, everyone is different, if you have a rangefinder already and just shoot casually there are likely better investments, but as a weapon mounted option it’s an outstanding tool. Is it perfect no, but it’s a solid option with great support. Just my 2 cents

supercorndogs said:

A 31oz alternative to the 19oz lht... I have no idea why someone woukd be choosing between those two.

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That’s a tough one, but there are other ways to save weight. It depends if the build is just to meet a weight requirement, or if it is a multi use setup.

Still have it.

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dms416 said:

Given the price hike, IF they come out swinging...I doubt there will be much if any difference between a ZCO and a "ATACR gen2"...and I'm not sure they have the chops to win that 1v1 for the non-fanboy and non-contract.

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They have too much name recognition in the industry so even non fanboys tend to lean their direction; however, the price hikes can really change that perception I believe. They waited longer than most to their credit. Will be interesting to see if something new comes soon.

I have this same pcc in black. It is so fun to shoot. Thousands of rounds through it with no hiccups. Whoever buys this will love it.

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I was the regular subject of a .gov forum mod during covid. My unrepentant side wishes him ill from those shots he pushed.

BytorJr said:

I wonder how this works now with concealed carry. Florida was very much of the mindset of "no printing" whatsoever years ago. I wonder if this helps the case in case you find yourself where printing or a peak is seen?

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i think open carry most places is just dumb. it says "shoot me 1st". i also think that the right to do is is so basically consistent with the 2nd amend that any denial of that right is just more gov control games.
i do like it for the reason that women will be able to carry on body with a bit less problem. not having to carry off body,which is often a big problem.
face it,young women who have things to show like to show them. been that way for awhile. carrying now will still be hard but not nearly so. look at pics of many victims of serious crime by goat fuckers and wet backs. many young attractive women. those looking for the armed folks,criminals and cops, are less likely to notice an armed woman even when gun is not totally under cover. also gets the weight off a carrying person by pigs that try to catch printing,which did happen,esp when CCP started.

I’ve got a couple of these and they work well for $40 on my cans.

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What an odd thing to say…

I've got a foot in either camp.

I don't know "formidilosus" from a bar of soap and I'm disinclined to place too much trust in a lot of unsubstantiated claims on the internet. However the "drop test" results as presented do show some pattern to reliability. They've certainly induced a lot of caution in me around scopes.

However, however,

the tests are not always conducted in a transparent and trustworthy manner and the conclusions aren't always clearly supported by good data.

As an example, the March 4.5-28x "fails" the long term zero holding test supposedly -

Initial zero:



and check that supposedly "lost zero" - it's hardly the robust 20-round group of data supporting this conclusion.



The "drop tests" are used quite widely as the basis for statements that "[blank] scope doesn't hold zero just being driven around". It's perhaps fairer to say that they show that "[blank] scope didn't hold zero being driven around in that mounting system after being thrown on the ground a bunch of times", which is a different story altogether.

As a sort of associated point, the one-true-method and only reliable parts list for an optic and mounting is widely quoted on Rokslide, but the evidence of it being greatly superior to other options is slim. I use 2x scopes mounted in talley ultralights. Neither is a Rokslide approved scope, and talley ultralights should be useless. One scope has remained solidly zeroed without a shift of 0.1mrad for nearly a year now of professional and recreational hunting and a couple of matches, confirmed with regular 10rd groups. The other has not been mounted as long but also has no issues. Yet the "only true method" of tikka, maven, UM or sportsmatch rings - prepared just one specific way - seems to produce plenty of zero shifts (there's a thread every week or 2). It gets explained away with increasingly esoteric blame of user error in every instance - your barrel just isn't torqued tight enough !

Much of this isn't formidilosuss' fault though, it's just the nature of the internet as an echo chamber. Because nothing on the internet can be trusted, you just have to make your own assessment to meet your own requirements

D_TROS said:

big fan of the ZCO 8-40. Fantastic glass and good reticle. It is long but when shooting it you dont notice.

some quick through the glass FOV
@20X from center to edge of glass
840 - 10.6 mils
527 - 9.1 mils
420 - 9.25 mils

as a fov whore having an extra 2mils (1 in ea direction) seems substantial in finding targets.


as always throw it in a Hawkins rings mount and gtg!

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That is an impressive increase from their other scopes, makes me think they quietly did that to avoid the FOV patrol from Swaro.