Tokay444 said:

That drop test was addressed years ago, and a voluntary program was setup if you thought you were prone to dropping your pistol in that exact orientation. The pistol had already passed all other military and strict California drop tests. Now it passes that one too.

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This is a quote from the sig article: "
Mr. Berrios voluntarily dismissed his action against SIG SAUER admitting in court filed documents that his P320 pistol has no defects and does not discharge without a trigger pull."



As can be seen in the video I posted earlier, Sig 320s can indeed fire without a trigger pull.

And, as per Brandon Herrera's latest Sig video, it was common knowledge in SIG engineering circles that the 320 was not drop safe even during development.

What happened was Sig bid on the m17 MHS contract at cost and relied on the hype and resultant civillian sales making the profit. It is very hard to make profit and keep a contract that Glock was actively disputing the awarding of when you openly admit your firearm design is defective, dangerous, and that you knew it was not drop safe.

Instead, Sig decided to double down and push out a defective product anyway. Or at the very least they didn't listen to the concerns of their engineers.

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The maxim in history is First Person Sources, not hearsay from some "news" reporter. Yes, there is also ton of propaganda in history, but it's nothing like the "news", because it has to stand the test of time and not a 48 hour news cycle. Most bullshit "history" doesn't last very long. Yes, it stays in print, but it's not used as source material because it is so compromised.

The really blatant and outright historical lies only get recirculated in the universities because of their provocative nature, like the avowed communist Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States", which is nothing more than leftist fever dreams and fantasies. Such propaganda isn't used by anyone who is the slightest bit serious about actually learning from history. Howard Zinn made up the whole "Small Pox Blankets" story in that book with ZERO attribution. He lifted it from a letter from a British officer during colonial times where such a thing probably did happen.

I like carbon for a hunting barrel, but if it's gonna bang steel and maybe hunt every 2 yrs.....I'm gonna get a med palma steel barrel and save 400-500.00 on every barrel.

That's very similar to a mufalata.

Now I'm starving.

Oh, man, look at this work of art! 20” Osprey 300 WSM .75” straight contour with 7 flutes. Weights 2.38#!! Should make a very nice elk rifle for carrying around in the mountains with my short action Origin and Peak 44 Bastion stock. Now if I can figure out how to get the seamless thread protector off without messing up the cerekote……….I’m thinking leather and padded vise jaws…..


Thanks Josh and Ben for making this barrel so light, yet still a great suppressor host for my Nomad Ti XC, can’t wait to get it to the range!

So what does it take to identify the illegal aliens and take away thier ss#'s medicare etc. And deport them.

Simontainisly arrest the people that gave out the fraudulent benefits. Every fuckin one of both sides of that all the way to the top.

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Dead Eye Dick said:

Do I have too? It don’t sound like its gonna be fun. More like reading the (No so) affordable care act.

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It's YouTube. Pictures and stuff.

Mwalex said:

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Cleveland Clinic is still pushing the mRNA treatment, so while you can interpret their data any way you want, doesn't make a whole lot of sense that they would still be pushing people to get "vaccinated" while they're predicting mass death. Looking for CC to be a champion for all the people with mRNA injuries is not wise.

If they interpreted the data that way and believed it was killing people I can assure you that most of them would go nuts. Certainly not saying it isn't, and they've stopped even saying it is anything more than mildly effective. The wise answer is, "Why risk it", over what is usually a cold unless you have a stack of comorbidities.

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Only charged with one count of aggravated battery. I guess they forgot about leaving the scene, hit and run and several other charges.

Rob01 said:

And push an abrasive that much harder into the bore and where I am more concerned the muzzle area.

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Rob, it really is a good product. I have used it with nylon brushes and also bronze brushes. Not overbore sized, I use correct size brushes. You get it clean faster with a bronze brush and I’ve seen no ill effects (I clean every 200-300 rounds). But it may be a more conservative approach to use nylon. It seems to be a mild abrasive. It strips copper and fouling. It’s a 2 part system with thorro flush. I’ve tried many solvents etc but man I really like this stuff. I do use a bore scope so as to not overdo it, so far so good.

AustinCar32 said:

It will be used very seldom for hunting, ill be using it in Eastern Oregon about once every 2 years for hunting, but the majority of my hunting is blacktails which i use my short barrel 6.5 creedmoor for, and 7prc for elk.

i plan on putting 1k+ rounds through it this year alone target shooting. Which is still fine, as I always bring my cleaning equip when im out shooting all day anyways. I was more concerned about there being an issue with the barrel that may get worse over time until its either not grouping or becoming dangerous. Its my first quality barrel so im not sure how they are supposed to behave.

So far i have 40 rounds of factory ammo through it after a cleaning and still no pressure/velocity increase. Im going to put another box through it today just to be certain, but this is starting to indicate a problem with my handloading

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A 1000+ rds this year? FYI, 6.5prc is pretty much same case capacity as a 6.5-284. Those used in f class generally get set back at 800rds and then replaced at 1200ish rds. At least you won't have to deal with the barrel much over a yr, lol.

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DeathBeforeDismount said:

MSRP is 9500, Retails for 4000 but street price is going to be 2k.

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Thought Frank banned you?

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DeathBeforeDismount said:

MSRP is 9500, Retails for 4000 but street price is going to be 2k.

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Sounds about right

Ronin22 said:

To put things into perspective here. This is a 6.5 PRC and a hunting rifle. If you are going through 20rnds when hunting, you are doing something wrong. If it's shooting up to 5 rounds just fine after a few fouling shots on a clean barrel, then I don't see there is a problem. What is the most reasonable number of shots on game in one encounter, 2-3 at the most/worst scenario? Just a thought.

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I said pretty much exactly same thing 7 or 8 posts up. It's annoying, but if it shoots good and is truly a hunting rifle, I'd just let it bump.

Guns&WhiteWater said:

Awesome if it comes in around or under two pounds.

What’s the going rate to cerakote a scope? Asking for a friend.

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You buy the scope through us, $250 for one color but if you send it in $500 and return shipping.

It is $1799 and is already chambered so we would not be able to change that. the Barrel is a Shilen Select Match Barrel.