I don't think you guys get it.
We don't give a shit what russia does. If they reclaim every fucking inch of the former Soviet union tomorrow, I'll be asleep by 9:30 and I'll sleep all night. Not one fucking thing in your or my life will change. The idea that we "need" to stop them from doing anything is military industrial complex propoganda. They only give a fuck about us because we wont leave them alone. Let's get back to the days of the KGB and the CIA playing their games, and stop wasting Billions of dollars and millions of lives on this bullshit. It doesn't fucking matter. The idea that Putin is on the ropes is laughable. Anyone who believes that is sucking from the propoganda teat.
"Just a few more hundred billion $$ guys, and we will for the first time in 150+ years of history, successfully subvert a world superpower".
Take your pipe dream back to your democrat convention meeting. You are the enemy of the American people if you're singing that song. This bullshit has a 22% approval rating with Americans last time I checked. You fucking war hawks have outlived your welcome. We dont want your fucking excuses or your useless wars. Go away.
i am glad some are seeing what i see vis a vis europe. we have no reason to spend 1$ or waste 1 life to "keep it free"never have. like above. i care about as much about europe as i do pro sports,which is 0. if putin went to the channel,so what? that would = zero threat to my or anyone else's life. there is absolutely nothing we need anywhere in europe. a free world? the governments in europe,esp UK,are more abusive than putin's russia. the only need we had was UK as an aircraft carrier during cold war. the rest of europe was just a bunch of socialist twats letting us defend them. had rus surrounded then. jfk had sense enough to deal on that. no need now at all. if we got TF out we would have a better excuse to go monroe doctrine which looking at our current invasion from the south makes sense and does affect our lives.
ME is another discussion,another disaster. same with africa which is likely unsalvageable. asia/china is still a problem. our military has become so decrepit that the only way we can oppose the neocon targets is proxy or nuclear.
we have no benefit in this constant neocon war mongering with 800 bases all over the world. we need strong defense. our border doesn't exist,our grid is wide open,our hemisphere is getting loaded by those that are not our friends. yes russia included. our country is over run with violent criminals. and ukraine matters to anyone,except black rock?