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Gen 3 BRN-180

Yes, I did a search, no results. Does anyone have a gen3 yet?
Compared to gen 2, is it worth the swap? I shoot lefty often so the left side charging handle isn't necessarily a good thing. The sealed upper is, and they are hella maneuverable due to light weight up front and very light weight on the back end. Having run lots of piston guns, I am a BRN180 fan, but not sure about the gen3 just yet.

New Winchester 52D

This has been quite a fruitful month for me with respect to Target .22 rifles.

In addition to a Remington 40XB, I also got this Winchester 52D. It is US marked and supposed to include the CMP certificate. Also came with a set of Redfield Olympic sights and a hand stop.

Stock is a little banged up, but the price was good.

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This might be a fun one- Have you ever made a firearm purchase out of "spite"?

I have.

As a quick disclaimer- this thread is more about the business/consumer relationship but I'm keeping it related to a firearms forum.

With that said- I've absolutely purchased a firearm out of nothing more than spite because of how a business (one of which I've had a long established relationship with/and no I'm not intending to name them) treated me.

As a quick backstory- as I'm sure many here can understand I'm talking about a 'preferred' FFL. You likely might know the type- the one where you knew most employees by name & they knew yours. If an interesting trade came in- you'd receive a phone call from them to let you know because it was something you would likely be interested in- a business/consumer relationship that usually takes many years to develop.

I know it's often said from the consumer perspective in these stories that "I've spent a fortune!" there. And then someone points out that the margin is low and you just aren't that important. So with that said- just wanted to move on, I'd spent enough time & money there to build relationships with the owner & employees, and as for "how much I spent there over the years"... well let's just say I could have purchased a car in cash between the guns, ammo, & accessories. Maybe not a Mercedes but easily a Honda Accord or Nissan Altima easily across the categories I mentioned.

Long story short- the business was sold to a new owner (and this would have been around the height of the 2012/Sandy Hook gun craze where any gun dealer could throw out a line and make a considerable profit without much effort). The new owner decided they'd move locations, rebrand the FFL, and focus on the gun owner 'lifestyle'...

Ok- kinda changed the shop I built the relationship with, their prerogatives/outlook on things, and while I missed knowing the owner personally, I still knew a good portion of their (longterm) employees and decided to stay with them throughout the change in ownership/location.


I ran into my first "hiccup" with the new owners with regards to a Colt Delta Elite I had put a deposit on several months back when I was doing my weekly/biweekly ritual of stopping in to see what was for sale and low & behold there was a shiny new Colt DE there in the counter for several hundred dollars more than I had locked in my order for. In fact... here's the exact pistol I'm referencing...

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Again, at this point I still knew most of the employees and brought this to their attention and (yep) they had my order from however many months ago. One of them got the store manager that remained with them from the ownership change/move (ironically one I also knew for over 8 years at that point and previously worked with) to hash out my... "thoughts" about seeing the exact pistol for sale in their counter that I had ordered months ago (easily over 6 months) without my order being fulfilled. Without getting into the "nitty gritty" details, we worked it out.

Time went on and I was seeing more and more of these type of shenanigans as the new owner changed their business focus, cut the loyalty programs, and the longterm employees all found new job opportunities. And... I still stuck with them because of my history with the business (or at least their name) and trying to support "small & local" businesses.

Whelp- it all came to a breaking point (for me) over a relatively insignificant inquiry I made. The gist was they advertised matching any competitors pricing on their social media & there was a comment made on that post asking if that included online pricing, not using the business's social media account, but rather the (then) general manager of their whole operation used their personal account to respond to that question and assert that "yes, online business are included and they would beat their prices".

Less than a month of that post- I was at the shop and eyeing up a Berreta 92 Compact that they had under the glass- it was something I was interested in but not fully committed to since it was more of a curiosity than a necessity for me at the time. I shared that with them as I was handling it and asked about the recent posts about beating competitors pricing. I'm sure you already know where this is going but I was told "nope" from the sales floor manager, best they could do was knock of $10 (it was something trivial like that) and was still well over a hundred dollars more than the online price.

You can believe me or not, after all I'm just another internet stranger here, but I STILL gave them the benefit of the doubt and asked to speak to the manager on duty because after all my years of doing business there and building relationships I was certain we could correct the statement. Well, that didn't happen and essentially I was told that if I could get a better deal (haha- their sarcastic response) then do it.

Well I had enough by that point and within the next 2 hours after that exchange I went ahead and ordered that dang pistol to be transferred to me by their closest FFL competitor. Come to think of it- I have a picture of that pistol here too...

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So yes- I was close to purchasing this pistol regardless, but in this particular instance I bought it out of spite (it has been a fantastic pistol for what it's worth & I still have it).

This next part, as I've grown older and (allegedly) wiser, I'm no longer as proud of but after I purchased that pistol and did the transaction from their direct competitor (who was in the same town), on my way home I made a point to stop at the other gun shop and speak to the same manager to let them know that I followed their advice and pursued other options. Admittedly they didn't seem to care & it was a rather juvenile move on my part but dang if it didn't feel good at the moment.

To sum everything up- I have since stopped doing all business with the one I originally mentioned and the competitor has been my #1 "go-to" for all things firearms related for the past... 10+ years now.

I know- kind of a long synopsis but the question I wanted to pose is has anyone else had a similar experience with their firearm purchases over the years or in other business pursuits?

-LD

Sidearms & Scatterguns Glock 21, Smith M&P, or CZ P-10 .45 ACP

Been looking at plastic fantastic full size .45’s.

It’d get an optic out of the gate, all handloads, all powder coated cast bullets at upper end or +P loads (no bullseye, but no supers).

I’ve not shot any of the pistols in the title. I did shoot a Gen 5 20 10mm with a Holosun and was amazed how well I shot it out of the gate, so I figure a .45 in the same gun would be pretty similar.

No duty. Just a hunting backup/lease bumming gun.

Mostly curious about accuracy, ergos (wouldn’t mind a touch a
smaller grip than the Glock), trigger, and recoil. All three seem to have a pretty good rep as far as dependability (though I’d like to hear it if anyone begs to differ).

Any opinions?

Tikka T3 Barrel / Yuck

I purchased a used Tikka T3 Tac A1 awhile back at my LGS... Been to the range with it a few times and functioned fine - Groups seemed a bit open but I was shooting junk 308 and didn't think much of it. Took it over to a friends after shooting to work on it and he put his bore scope down it - Yuck. Not really sure what I am looking at but appears to be pitting? rust?

How would you recommend I proceed with the barrel? Thoughts?

Thanks for the input

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SOLD WTS: Leupold MK4HD 6-24 PR2 mil

WTS: like new leupold mk4hd 6-24x52 ffp scope with PR2 mil/mrad. Did a couple prs 22 matches. Amazing scope but I got another gen 3 razor. Comes with turrent tape and extras. Comes with box and everything it came with. Bought new from EuroOptic

$1200 shipped conus

PayPal f&f

No trades

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Redfield 3-9 Cerakote

So I found a 1” marked gen 1 for my M40 build. It has the glass in the ocular cracked so I decided to try cerakote instead of waiting on someone to start anodizing again. I used the sniper green color. It turned out pretty good I think. Now I’ll send to Mike at Iron Site and get it refurbed with a mildot reticle. Getting closer!
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First range trip with 6arc build

Got my new build out to the range today. Put 80 rounds through it. Ran perfectly, no malfunctions of any kind. A little overgassed with SA gas block wide opened, vented it 7 clicks and got a nice ejection pattern and softened a bit. Goups seemed to tighten up a bit through the session. Last 2 groups on paper were around the 45-55rnd mark and just at 1moa @100yds. After that I started banging the steel at the back of the range at ~225yrds. No problem consistantly hitting the 8" plate 4 or 5 out of 5 shots. Next time I'll get some groups at 200yds on paper. Also first time getting behind the Zeiss LRP S3 6-36x56 and it is awesome. Rifle shoots very soft, no problem seeing splash even at high mag. Reticle barely leaves target. The rifle has more in it. I'm not in love with the Timney Calvine Elite. Had it on the shelf from another build I didn't like it in and thought I would try it again. Swapping a TriggerTech in it. I was shooting Hornady 108gr Match. I'm hoping to eventually stretch it's legs.

Mega upper/lower
FCD small parts
Satern 18" barrel and matching bolt in Toolcraft BCG
Zeiss LRP S3 6-36
Nomad


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SOLD Hog Saddle Mod 7

Looking to sell a Shadow Tech Hog Saddle Mod 7. Comes with a QD mount on the bottom that fits Bushnell tripods. May fit others. Has some use, shows scratches and marks but functions perfectly.

$215 shipped, or trade towards a 34mm Badger Condition 1 MAX mount 0moa.

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Firearms Delete

Aero M5 upper and lower.
Aero S-One 15” Handguard
Wilson Combat 16” .243 1-10 barrel w/ adjustable gas block
Faxon nitride bcg
Stealth captured buffer
Strike gas busting charging handle
Triggertech diamond trigger w/ gray man 45 ambi safety
Sopmod stock, subrev bag rider
3 mags

Was used for a suppressed, thermal gun. Shooting 87grn v max. Approx 200 rounds down the barrel.

Looking to get $1,000 shipped OBO

Athlon Ares ETR UHD 1-10x24 Mil w/ 20 MOA Athlon mount- $500 shipped

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Hegseth is off to a great start!

Not talking about dropping DEI... not talking about running with the troops. Or making sure we are going to put warfighting back in our military...

But today, he shitcanned two four-star's... including the worthless POS DEI CNO.


And USAF vice CoS... another DEI-pushing litmus-test-wonder.

This is going to send a message to put in your retirement papers or find yourself publically removed. If you are about having soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines put rainbows and cutting their junk off ahead of being a lethal war-fighting professional... then your career is fucking over.

A couple of four stars definitely sends the right message. But this needs to extend all the way down to the Second Lt's who went through West Point with unicorn stickers on their notebooks and flashing black power symbols... and NCO's who are pushing woke agendas... and POS privates who joined te service to get free tranny surgery.

For the senior folks... fuck them. Make it public and make it clear that this is not to be tolerated. For the junior ranks... a "copper handshake" (which is what they did to an entire generation of first rate and promising young officers in '93 and '94... gutting readiness under Clinton). But, hey, we can be nice... the precedent of the copper handshake could motivate the shit to get out before they are found out and terminated with less.

For the junior enlisted who went straight from recruiting station to the Trans doctors (and any military doctor or medical personell who was complicit)... OUT. Now. General discharge. Not honorable. For reasons of mental illness.

Hundreds... thousands... need to go.

Can't wait to hear what Kash Patel is working on...

Sirhr

Bergara vs. vudoo?

Anybody on here happen to have time behind both the bergara b14r and any of the vudoo rifles? I picked up a bergara about 6 months ago and have put a couple thousand rounds through it. It produces pretty good groups out to a 100 yards gets pretty wishy washy any further. Iv exclusively shot SK rifle match out of it up until the past few weeks as I am running pretty low on the sk ammo now so Iv been experimenting with some other ammos (basically whatever i can get my hands on right now) cci standards, mini mags, aguila, federal etc. unfortunately have had pretty terrible results with the other ammos. Just kinda curious if the vudoo rifles seem really ammo picky or if they are a little more forgiving and what kinda groups you guys are getting past 100yrds with them? Iv about pulled the trigger on buying one a couple times but just curious if you guys that have em are happy with the vudoos after shelling out the $$ for them? Worth the extra dough or save the money and keep rolling with the bergara? Hoping we come out of this ammo crisis sometime this year!