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Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

I'm going to go look at a property on Saturday with Backseat Driver 6. I'm kind of overwhelmed at the possibilities of it. Please, bear in mind, I've got a few manly skills, being a mechanic not one of them, and no, this isn't zoned commercial. So think outside the box, and tell me what I could do with it, short of bribing the zoning commission and going to tech school for too long at this point in my life.

The kitchen (in the actual house, which is a bit non-descript, unlike the 50x30 garage) is a helluva kicker. I'm feeling like it's just full of so much WIN.

So, ideas?

2ndamendfan · Feb 15, 2018

you can do a whole ton of shit. One thing is the in ground hoist. You should find out how old it is and make/model. It looks new enough but any in ground hoists over about 20 years old can be a EPA nightmare if that ever comes to be. You could be buying someone else's problems. They almost went the way of the dinosaur, above ground are superior in so many ways. the newer models have a thick plastic bath tub the ram sits in to catch any hydraulic leaks.

1J04 · Feb 15, 2018

I got nuth'n. But I'd love to have that place, and the centerconsole, and the Beamer, and the Jeep, and............

That Kitchen ROCKS!!!!

Nik H · Feb 15, 2018

That kitchen is incredible..I would buy the house just for that

THEIS · Feb 15, 2018

1J04 said:
I got nuth'n. But I'd love to have that place, and the centerconsole, and the Beamer, and the Jeep, and............

That Kitchen ROCKS!!!!

HOLY SMOKE SHIT....Did you call that restored Bronco a jeeeeep????

That is worthy of solitary confinement in restraint chair wearing the electric belt!!!

Sincerely,
Theis

FS1 · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
I'm going to go look at a property on Saturday with Backseat Driver 6. I'm kind of overwhelmed at the possibilities of it. Please, bear in mind, I've got a few manly skills, being a mechanic not one of them, and no, this isn't zoned commercial. So think outside the box, and tell me what I could do with it, short of bribing the zoning commission and going to tech school for too long at this point in my life.

The kitchen (in the actual house, which is a bit non-descript, unlike the 50x30 garage) is a helluva kicker. I'm feeling like it's just full of so much WIN.

So, ideas?

Indoor pistol range.

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

FS1 said:
Indoor pistol range.

YES! My thoughts exactly. And I don't think that that township has any ordinances against discharge, either.

THEIS · Feb 15, 2018

Hi,

You could get some good positional work with the subcalibers

Sincerely,
Theis

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Nik H said:
That kitchen is incredible..I would buy the house just for that

Viking appliances and KraftMaid cabinetry. It isn't big, but it's big enough. That's a six-burner with an attached griddle at the side.

Shooter McGavin · Feb 15, 2018

Well for me that would be a dream home because I race cars and would love to have that shop at the house.

Mike Casselton · Feb 15, 2018

I would buy it for the cool ass porta potty on the left.
Shooting range and you can one-up Sirhr on his reloading room.

MotorOilMcCall · Feb 15, 2018

Looks like a bachelor had too many girlfriends who all liked to cook!

Nice potential!

Nodakplowboy · Feb 15, 2018

Lets see:

The vinyl siding up by the peak looks a little funky, might have to replace it all, or at least the overhead door side.
The insulation between the studs looks to be foam, not fiberglass. Replace.
The rock leaning against the studs doesn't appear to have taken a set, still usable.
Fiberglass insulation behind the tires looks used. Replace.
Floor substrates look sound. No basement?
Wiring in the studs appears to be 600 volt 2/12. If the sheath is yellow, yes. That's good.
The green and black coils? Not water PEX, they are blue and red. Wire Sheathing?
Windows are pretty.
Kitchen and living area, move in ready.
Might be a bit early in the project for a electrical inspection, ask for any current inspections (structure). Look at all services to see if the is an inspection tag, and what date.
50 x30 garage/shop? What are you waiting for, a handwritten invitation?
Do the tools come with it?

oneshot86 · Feb 15, 2018

THEIS said:
HOLY SMOKE SHIT....Did you call that restored Bronco a jeeeeep????

That is worthy of solitary confinement in restraint chair wearing the electric belt!!!

Sincerely,
Theis

dude, he is a sailor...
we gotta cut popeye a break

Nik H · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
Viking appliances and KraftMaid cabinetry. It isn't big, but it's big enough. That's a six-burner with an attached griddle at the side.

It is the biggest they make...48" wide and 2 ovens. I have the exact one in 36" width. It has 6 burners and no griddle and 1 oven. It is quite the stove. Depending on what you use for pots, you may need to upgrade

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Nik H said:
It is the biggest they make...48" wide and 2 ovens. I have the exact one in 36" width. It has 6 burners and no griddle and 1 oven. It is quite the stove. Depending on what you use for pots, you may need to upgrade

I was referring to the entire kitchen. The stove is a gem.

Sean the Nailer · Feb 15, 2018

Sub-floor heating?

The place has many possibilities. Land it's sitting on? Neighboring lands?

Nik H · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
I was referring to the entire kitchen. The stove is a gem.

It is beautiful

Good luck with the purchase

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Nodakplowboy said:
Lets see:

The vinyl siding up by the peak looks a little funky, might have to replace it all, or at least the overhead door side.
The insulation between the studs looks to be foam, not fiberglass. Replace.
The rock leaning against the studs doesn't appear to have taken a set, still usable.
Fiberglass insulation behind the tires looks used. Replace.
Floor substrates look sound. No basement?
Wiring in the studs appears to be 600 volt 2/12. If the sheath is yellow, yes. That's good.
The green and black coils? Not water PEX, they are blue and red. Wire Sheathing?
Windows are pretty.
Kitchen and living area, move in ready.
Might be a bit early in the project for a electrical inspection, ask for any current inspections (structure). Look at all services to see if the is an inspection tag, and what date.
50 x30 garage/shop? What are you waiting for, a handwritten invitation?
Do the tools come with it?

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm looking real hard at this one even without the garage, and if we go for it I might press hard for inclusions. And you guys didn't get a look at the offshore fishing boat parked off to the side of the garage, either.

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Sean the Nailer said:
Sub-floor heating?

The place has many possibilities. Land it's sitting on? Neighboring lands?

Less than an acre, unfortunately. It's in a village setting but not super, super hemmed in by neighbors.

Dirty D · Feb 15, 2018

Looks damn near perfect for an indoor grow operation.

1J04 · Feb 15, 2018

THEIS said:
HOLY SMOKE SHIT....Did you call that restored Bronco a jeeeeep????

That is worthy of solitary confinement in restraint chair wearing the electric belt!!!

Sincerely,
Theis

What a moron.

My bad on that. Haven't seen one from that era for a loooooong time. Very nice. Rolled one my Jr year at the Modesto Reservoir. Rootbeer Brown with a White Hard Top. I think the tires were too big.

Now where the hell is that belt............

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Dirty D said:
Looks damn near perfect for an indoor grow operation.

I had given growing non-cannabis herbs for market a very, very serious thought, actually.

1J04 · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
Thanks for the breakdown. I'm looking real hard at this one even without the garage, and if we go for it I might press hard for inclusions. And you guys didn't get a look at the offshore fishing boat parked off to the side of the garage, either.

That's why I said "Centerconsole" Jimmy. I'll take it.

Yasherka · Feb 15, 2018

Overall it looks VERY nice. And on an acre? Huge possibilities! I'd be on that like a hobo on a ham sandwich.

What was the square footage of the non-garage portion?

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

1J04 said:
That's why I said "Centerconsole" Jimmy. I'll take it.

I wondered what you were on about.

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Yasherka said:
Overall it looks VERY nice. And on an acre? Huge possibilities! I'd be on that like a hobo on a ham sandwich.

What was the square footage of the non-garage portion?

2,350 sf ...

Mike Casselton · Feb 15, 2018

1J04 said:
That's why I said "Centerconsole" Jimmy. I'll take it.

Average Hide response:
A center hwuut??

Response from those that live in coastal areas:
Yeah, nice boat.

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Mike Casselton said:
Average Hide response:
A center hwuut??

Response from those that live in coastal areas:
Yeah, nice boat.

For those dying of curiosity ...

Sean the Nailer · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
I had given growing non-cannabis herbs for market a very, very serious thought, actually.

We do that each year, outside. You could cultivate much more, and a much wider variety than we can. And, nice trailer under that boat.

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Sean the Nailer said:
We do that each year, outside. You could cultivate much more, and a much wider variety than we can. And, nice trailer under that boat.

You guys are hoping and praying for a lot more inclusions than I would reasonably expect.

sirhrmechanic · Feb 15, 2018

I always thought that building a carriage house... would be the best way to live. 12 garage bays below... big flat house above.

So much to do with that property....

Cheers,

Sirhr

PinesAndProjectiles · Feb 15, 2018

I would rent out the porta potty for extra gun $

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

sirhrmechanic said:
I always thought that building a carriage house... would be the best way to love. 12 garage bays below... big flat house above.

So much to do with that property....

Cheers,

Sirhr

Hey, whatever lifts your crane arm.

sirhrmechanic · Feb 15, 2018

Fixed my typo... but not that far from the truth ;-)

Cheers,

Sirhr

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

The other current contender has twice the acreage, is out in the woods, has four bays, an in-law suite, and costs $65K less. Backseat Driver 6 is telling me that we can buy that kitchen. I know her, and I know that it's easier to slightly overbuy and get what you would want to have, rather than dragging her into a drawn-out renovation. Oh, and @sirhrmechanic she squawked when she saw her call sign. I said, "Relax, it could be ...

... Busenhalter."

Dirty D · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
I had given growing non-cannabis herbs for market a very, very serious thought, actually.

“Non”-cannabis herbs...

Mmmm, hmmm

oneshot86 · Feb 15, 2018

Yasherka said:
Overall it looks VERY nice. And on an acre? Huge possibilities! I'd be on that like a hobo on a ham sandwich.

What was the square footage of the non-garage portion?

hobo on a ham sandwhich, thats so fucking funny dude

Barneybdb · Feb 15, 2018

In the first pic, what is that in the back right hand corner?

oneshot86 · Feb 15, 2018

the place looks awesome and myself i think, with a portion being unfinished, you will buy it that way. save some money.
you are retired, you can build better than code and save money, and it be exactly like you want, awesome...

try to make sure to meet the neighbors before you buy

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

barneybdb said:
In the first pic, what is that in the back right hand corner?

That's plastic sheeting over seedlings. It's surrounded on all sides by a farmlet.

Hookturnr · Feb 15, 2018

If you can go 65k less out in the woods with property, it's a no brainer GO THERE! I could get that kitchen into your new place in the neighborhood of $38k maybe less and have it done in 2-4 weeks. Kitchens and baths are hard to guesstimate as you can buy $200 faucets or $2000 faucets etc. but you can get into a very nice kitchen in the $30k range

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Hookturnr said:
If you can go 65k less out in the woods with property, it's a no brainer GO THERE! I could get that kitchen into your new place in the neighborhood of $38k maybe less and have it done in 2-4 weeks. Kitchens and baths are hard to guesstimate as you can buy $200 faucets or $2000 faucets etc. but you can get into a very nice kitchen in the $30k range

I priced out the appliances at $24k alone, before installation and delivery. That's a monster bite in the ass of an estimate. I'm thinking that it might push it a little higher than what we're guesstimating it might take to replicate it somewhere else. The one out in the woods would require a positional swap between sink/dishwasher and stove/mic/hood to get us outside ventilation if it isn't already there and up through the roof. I've done a little research on ventilation options.

Rthur · Feb 15, 2018

Mike Casselton said:
Average Hide response:
A center hwuut??

Response from those that live in coastal areas:
Yeah, nice boat.

Not so fast.
Used to burn up some fuel in one of these:

Not much for fishin but got there quick.

R

Hookturnr · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
I priced out the appliances at $24k alone, before installation and delivery. That's a monster bite in the ass of an estimate. I'm thinking that it might push it a little higher than what we're guesstimating it might take to replicate it somewhere else. The one out in the woods would require a positional swap between sink/dishwasher and stove/mic/hood to get us outside ventilation if it isn't already there and up through the roof. I've done a little research on ventilation options.

You should be in the $8-10k range on labor with a full service contractor, $3-4k in solid surface tops, $6-10k in Kraftmaid full overlay cabinetry with all the bells n whistles, $6k misc. (tile backsplash, faucets lighting. I was thinking more like $13k in appliances but just took a cursory glance when I threw that first number out there. I can't imagine pricing being terribly different from the Pittsburgh market(my AO) to the suburban Filthy market but I may be wrong. You might get up to $50k if you go balls to the wall all absolute top end.

Hookturnr · Feb 15, 2018

If you get into granite, especially the exotics you can get into the 20K range on tops alone.

I personally recommend solid surface products as they are much easier on the structure of the building and much easier to live with in the long run

Ric O'shay · Feb 15, 2018

Might be tough to get a loan on depending on your lender. Perhaps you have a pile of cash and won't need one?

Veer_G · Feb 15, 2018

Ric O'shay said:
Might be tough to get a loan on depending on your lender. Perhaps you have a pile of cash and won't need one?

Pre-qualed. Ducks are in a row and begging for 10 gauge love. But humor me anyway: what's your reasoning?

hlee · Feb 15, 2018

$65k less for 2x the acreage gives you a lot of room to play when revova5im* a kitchen...

hlee · Feb 15, 2018

Veer_G said:
Pre-qualed. Ducks are in a row and begging for 10 gauge love. But humor me anyway: what's your reasoning?

I recently learned that FHA won’t sign off on a loan for a home without a microwave. It’s a nonissue on a conventional loan, but something to think about anyway.

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