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Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017
It exists. If anyone's at SHOT and wants a sample, they're giving them out at the Lapua booth.
I'll take some measurements of loaded round neck diameters in 6.5 and 6 when I get home if anyone is interested.
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I'm interested in the neck thickness and loaded round diameter on the 6.5
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Yes, small primer and small flash hole.
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Did they give a definitive date when it will be available? What about a price?
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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The first batch is complete and on it's way over. I asked which vendors are likely to get them and she poined me to some
literature and their three US distributors. Graf & sons was one of them. Their site took a backorder for me for $120 per 100 last night.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017
I've had really good service from my Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass but have 200 pieces of the Lapua on backorder at Graf's. I am most interested in seeing what improvements the small primer can make and intend on trying it with the CCI450 small magnums.
I did inquire with Kevin Thomas at Lapua as to actually neck thickness Lapua chose but he said he had none on hand and was hoping Lapua brought some to SHOT for him to explore.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017
Does any one have measurements on the neck yet?
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017 Last edited 01/19/2017 by padom
Ill stick with my $70 Lapua 308 Palma converted and neck turned to 0.015 vs Lapua 6.5cm at $120 + shipping. I dont mind making it and at $50+ less per 100.
I stocked up when Brownells was running that awesone Lapua sale last month along with 260rem.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Awesome!
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Most people hydroform, neck turn, then trim to length.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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I'm a day late "out of stock" , they went quick,
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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I look forward to getting those measurements, especially the neck thickness.
I don't mind a little "clean up" room but prefer to be able to use no-turn brass in my 6.5CM.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/20/2017 Last edited 01/20/2017 by plinkr
It would be interesting to know when their total 6.5 Creemoor production exceeds the total 6.5x47.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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(1 vote)
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BRU15, I figured it out . I know it not in stock yet but last night it wouldn't let me "ad to Cart" . Today it let me order a few hundred. Thanks
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Tag
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
Most people
Ordered from grafs over a month ago. I'm willing to bet most people will not receive them on the first order.
I know of probably 10 guys who ordered 500+ cases from grafs.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017 Last edited 01/22/2017 by CplSnafu
Lapua rep said an entire shipping container is going to grafs only. I'll cross my fingers. Lol
Here's the good stuff. I took two sample lapua cases and seated lapua 123's in them, then measured. Did the same with virgin hornady cases. I insured all the bullets were exactly the same diameter.
I then necked them to 6mm and seated 105 Hybrids
Shoulder diameter .458 lap .457 hor
Web diameter .468 .466
Headspace 1.573 1.576
(.350 hornady tool)
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
Hornady on top
Extractor grooves diameters are .4055 for the lapua and .3925 for the hornady
The hornady's extractor groove ends up on the web about .030 higher.
Way more meat in the case head on the lapua, even if you discount the small primer. This is going to be a much stronger case than hornady's.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
creedmoorsports.com/category/Brass
That place already had it in stock and it sold out in about 30 seconds.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017 Last edited 01/21/2017 by CplSnafu
Doesnt surprise me that they got the first batch. Seem to recall they had some part to play in the release of 6.5 Creedmoor back in the day as well.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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What about case volume between the hornady and the lapua
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Pretty big headspace difference
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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I'll check tomorrow.
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Is there any literature on what the case pressure is supposed to be ? After looking at the pics, there is no way it can be the same as a Hornady case.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Same two cases for each. Remember these are now necked to 6mm. I'd really rather do this with fired cases but here goes. Also, the hornady cases were bumped back to the same headspace as the lapua. I'll add case length in there also. The hornady's started out longer, both brands grew with the necking and the hornady's remain longer. I used my chargmaster scale, nothing fancy.
Lapua
Case weight/ water weight/ case length
#1 165.2/50.8/1.917
#2 165.2/50.7/ 1.918
Hornady
Case weight/ water weight/ case length
#1 150.0/ 51.1/ 1.920
#2 150.4/ 51.2/ 1.921
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Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017
It exists. If anyone's at SHOT and wants a sample, they're giving them out at the Lapua booth.
I'll take some measurements of loaded round neck diameters in 6.5 and 6 when I get home if anyone is interested.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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I'm interested in the neck thickness and loaded round diameter on the 6.5
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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CplSnafu wrote:
It exists. If anyone's at SHOT and wants a sample, they're giving them out at the Lapua booth.
I'll take some measurements of loaded round neck diameters in 6.5 and 6 when I get home if anyone is interested.
Small primer pocket? Kinda hard to tell from the pic.It exists. If anyone's at SHOT and wants a sample, they're giving them out at the Lapua booth.
I'll take some measurements of loaded round neck diameters in 6.5 and 6 when I get home if anyone is interested.
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CplSnafu
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Yes, small primer and small flash hole.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Did they give a definitive date when it will be available? What about a price?
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017
The first batch is complete and on it's way over. I asked which vendors are likely to get them and she poined me to some
literature and their three US distributors. Graf & sons was one of them. Their site took a backorder for me for $120 per 100 last night.
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DarksideSix
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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CplSnafu wrote:
The first batch is complete and on it's way over. I asked which vendors are likely to get them and she poined me to some
literature and their three US distributors. Graf & sons was one of them. Their site took a backorder for me for $120 per 100 last night.
Sweet, thanks! I just ordered some as well. The first batch is complete and on it's way over. I asked which vendors are likely to get them and she poined me to some
literature and their three US distributors. Graf & sons was one of them. Their site took a backorder for me for $120 per 100 last night.
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shoot4fun
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017
I've had really good service from my Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass but have 200 pieces of the Lapua on backorder at Graf's. I am most interested in seeing what improvements the small primer can make and intend on trying it with the CCI450 small magnums.
I did inquire with Kevin Thomas at Lapua as to actually neck thickness Lapua chose but he said he had none on hand and was hoping Lapua brought some to SHOT for him to explore.
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lvcreedXGunny Sergeant
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Does any one have measurements on the neck yet?
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padom
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017 Last edited 01/19/2017 by padom
Ill stick with my $70 Lapua 308 Palma converted and neck turned to 0.015 vs Lapua 6.5cm at $120 + shipping. I dont mind making it and at $50+ less per 100.
I stocked up when Brownells was running that awesone Lapua sale last month along with 260rem.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Awesome!
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/19/2017
padom wrote:
Ill stick with my $70 Lapua 308 Palma converted and neck turned to 0.015 vs Lapua 6.5cm at $120 + shipping. I dont mind making it and at $50+ less per 100.
I stocked up when Brownells was running that awesone Lapua sale last month along with 260rem.
What is the process for doing this?Ill stick with my $70 Lapua 308 Palma converted and neck turned to 0.015 vs Lapua 6.5cm at $120 + shipping. I dont mind making it and at $50+ less per 100.
I stocked up when Brownells was running that awesone Lapua sale last month along with 260rem.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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Most people hydroform, neck turn, then trim to length.
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I'm a day late "out of stock" , they went quick,
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
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mojavejim wrote:
I'm a day late "out of stock" , they went quick,
They aren't available yet, at Grafs you can still add them to your cart and it will allow you to backorder them even though it says out of stock.I'm a day late "out of stock" , they went quick,
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/20/2017
I look forward to getting those measurements, especially the neck thickness.
I don't mind a little "clean up" room but prefer to be able to use no-turn brass in my 6.5CM.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/20/2017 Last edited 01/20/2017 by plinkr
It would be interesting to know when their total 6.5 Creemoor production exceeds the total 6.5x47.
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plinkr wrote:
It would be interesting to know when their 6.5 Creemoor production exceeds the 6.5x47.
probably right now.....It would be interesting to know when their 6.5 Creemoor production exceeds the 6.5x47.
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BRU15, I figured it out . I know it not in stock yet but last night it wouldn't let me "ad to Cart" . Today it let me order a few hundred. Thanks
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Tag
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
Most people
Ordered from grafs over a month ago. I'm willing to bet most people will not receive them on the first order.
I know of probably 10 guys who ordered 500+ cases from grafs.
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CplSnafu
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017 Last edited 01/22/2017 by CplSnafu
Lapua rep said an entire shipping container is going to grafs only. I'll cross my fingers. Lol
Here's the good stuff. I took two sample lapua cases and seated lapua 123's in them, then measured. Did the same with virgin hornady cases. I insured all the bullets were exactly the same diameter.
I then necked them to 6mm and seated 105 Hybrids
Shoulder diameter .458 lap .457 hor
Web diameter .468 .466
Headspace 1.573 1.576
(.350 hornady tool)
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CplSnafu
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
Hornady on top
Extractor grooves diameters are .4055 for the lapua and .3925 for the hornady
The hornady's extractor groove ends up on the web about .030 higher.
Way more meat in the case head on the lapua, even if you discount the small primer. This is going to be a much stronger case than hornady's.
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Kadams1563XSergeant
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
creedmoorsports.com/category/Brass
That place already had it in stock and it sold out in about 30 seconds.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017 Last edited 01/21/2017 by CplSnafu
Doesnt surprise me that they got the first batch. Seem to recall they had some part to play in the release of 6.5 Creedmoor back in the day as well.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
What about case volume between the hornady and the lapua
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
Pretty big headspace difference
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/21/2017
I'll check tomorrow.
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/22/2017
Is there any literature on what the case pressure is supposed to be ? After looking at the pics, there is no way it can be the same as a Hornady case.
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CplSnafu
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Re: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor
01/22/2017
Same two cases for each. Remember these are now necked to 6mm. I'd really rather do this with fired cases but here goes. Also, the hornady cases were bumped back to the same headspace as the lapua. I'll add case length in there also. The hornady's started out longer, both brands grew with the necking and the hornady's remain longer. I used my chargmaster scale, nothing fancy.
Lapua
Case weight/ water weight/ case length
#1 165.2/50.8/1.917
#2 165.2/50.7/ 1.918
Hornady
Case weight/ water weight/ case length
#1 150.0/ 51.1/ 1.920
#2 150.4/ 51.2/ 1.921