what exactly can a congressman do for you to help you in this scenario? im not very familiar.. and what would be their incentive or even care what is happening with atf queues?
Send a generic inquiry to the ATF and in return get the same generic response...
Some confuse the few exceptions that get an approval after "contacting their congressman" with that affecting their stamp with the whole system being random.
No matter what your legislative asshole's (House or Senate) views on guns is (and I live in the deep blue state of Maryland), they all have constituent services weenies to handle inquires like this.
In my case, where ATF just kept saying "pending", when my Senator's office inquired then the ATF came back and said I was on hold with the FBI NICS for three months...and yes, there is no other way to find this out as the FBI doesn't publish any contact info and doesn't want your phone calls or emails.
ATF said contact FBI as if that was feasible.
Long story short, ended up that after pinging the FBI, my NICS check was cleared within a day then ATF issued my stamp within a week.
May/may not work for others.
I was a USAF officer (yeah, back when we were still flying biplanes), have held security clearances as both mil and civ, and have NO FBI file whatsoever. Nonetheless, I tired of the FBI NICS shenanigans (yeah, put on NICS hold routinely, lifted from 15 minutes to next day...assholes) so I got a UPIN. Haven't used it yet, but if I get put on hold with NICS with a UPIN...which is a pre-clearance process, right...I'll prob go on war path with Senator again.
Fucking government at work. sigh
I was over 300 days on my way time and I contacted Andy Harris. He has a place on his website for problems with federal agencies. I already knew from emailing the ATF that after over 300 days the FBI has not cleared my Nics. After about a week they sent me a release form of some sort to fill out in about another week after that my suppressor was approved. I then got an email from the congressman saying that my Nics had been approved. So the ridiculous part for me is that the fbi took nearly a year for the Nics which we all know is very simple
If the whole thing made any sense there would be no reason for the ATF. They don't know any better and are not interested in 'fixing' it.
After a lonngggg wait, I was approved today. 1 down, 2 more to go!
Certified 8-12-22
Approved 8-28-23
382 days!
E-Form through silencershop
Rugged occulus 22.
This thing is sick!!!!!!
Certified 8-12-22
Approved 8-28-23
382 days!
E-Form through silencershop
Rugged occulus 22.
This thing is sick!!!!!!
Yeah I really like my occulus as well. It's a great 22 can.
I certified another today finally, I bought it over a month ago. Polonium K baby. Kind of wish I'd bought 2 but who's knows what's coming next so one more ar type can and I will be good...."famous last words right". I have 3 now in the hopper. One of my buddies shops .22 cans, another nomad (LT), and now the Polonium K . Prolly be this time next year before they are all out of jail. It's crazy this is even a thing
Salvo-12
Cert 12/28/22
Approval 08/29/23- 244 days for something that should be cash & carry.
E-Form 4 trust
ETA: I'm 125 days into a Hybrid 46. Guess it's too much trouble to approve it too, while they're at it.
Cert 12/28/22
Approval 08/29/23- 244 days for something that should be cash & carry.
E-Form 4 trust
ETA: I'm 125 days into a Hybrid 46. Guess it's too much trouble to approve it too, while they're at it.
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In all honesty, "fixing it" means they lose $200 a pop, and the NFA and ATF go bye-bye...And they're standing in the unemployment line.
Bro, I'm at 223 for a Polonium 556, and I'm definitely no stranger to the ATF... and yeah, I agree, should be a cash & carry. If I can get an instant approval for a gun in a 5 minute phone call to NICS, why can’t they do the same for cans? The 4473 is the traceable registration, just like a firearm transfer. So, why can they not streamline this system?Salvo-12
Cert 12/28/22
Approval 08/29/23- 244 days for something that should be cash & carry.
E-Form 4 trust
ETA: I'm 125 days into a Hybrid 46. Guess it's too much trouble to approve it too, while they're at it.
They're government-employed bureaucrats that have zero recourse for being completely inept at their jobs. They're not worried about getting in a hurry to do shit. Most of them are still working from home despite the Kung-Flu being over for a couple years now.
Here’s my currently pending day counts…
This is can #8 for me, so waiting isn't a surprise. My last one took 14 months.
But when I look across the Atlantic and see the Brits and Euros paying $50 at the corner hardware store and walking out with them, well that pisses me off.
There's always a caveat, but for them, it's almost as big of a pain in the ass to get the guns to use them on, as it is for us to get the cans... Not in Switzerland, of course, but in Britain. In Switzerland, its like a 2 week wait for approval to buy a "verboten" weapon, including new full-autos, cans, etc... And barrel lengths don't matter anywhere else on earth that I'm aware of, only here in the Unites States of Regulations.
You're right.
Anywhere else, it's rude to shoot without a can. Here, they 'serve no purpose but for assassins'.
Exactly. That's because people are retarded and believe everything they see in Hollywood movies, instead of reality, and finding out for themselves. They also think guns go "pew pew".
Wait, y’all aren’t assassins too? Excuse me I have some stuff to delete.
after a long wait on the form 4, and two Form 1s at 120 mf'ing days, my congressman office contact, who has been following up with the ATF every week since about Independence Day found out that my wife (only other RP on the trust besides me) has her background check "delayed". which is of course ridiculous. last approval i had was in March, i think? so what the hell changed since that last Form 4?
i had emailed the IDP ATF email asking if there was an issue with background checks like 3 weeks ago and have heard nothing.
anyway..... got the consent form for her filled out and now just waiting to see what the hell they can do about it with the FBI.
i had emailed the IDP ATF email asking if there was an issue with background checks like 3 weeks ago and have heard nothing.
anyway..... got the consent form for her filled out and now just waiting to see what the hell they can do about it with the FBI.
I have several OSS (aka HuxWurx) suppressors. You will not regret your purchase.
I have the flow 556k and 762 flow in jail currently, pretty excited for both.
Thinking I'm going the same route as you and will add a Flow 762 TI to the mix as well. Jay's numbers at Pew Science are flat out impressive on these cans!
A lot of great cans on the market right now.
These Huxwrx cans are pretty impressive and checked all the boxes for what I was looking for.
I'm sure it's not too long before all companies will be DMLS printing.
Magnus CB
Single shot trust
Certified 1/10/23
Approved 8/31/23
233 days
Single shot trust
Certified 1/10/23
Approved 8/31/23
233 days
I seem to be hopping around on suppressor Brands, but market competition is a good thing (tm).
On hand:
Omega 300
In the pipe:
KGM R556 (received for free, yes free, from a Bereli promotion)
On order:
Rex Massive MG50
CGS Hydra .22
Deciding:
Rex or TBAC .338 (probably TBAC)
On hand:
Omega 300
In the pipe:
KGM R556 (received for free, yes free, from a Bereli promotion)
On order:
Rex Massive MG50
CGS Hydra .22
Deciding:
Rex or TBAC .338 (probably TBAC)
That's better but still 232 days longer then it should be
Thunderbeast Ultra 7
Submitted 1/13/2023
Approved 9/6/2023
Single Shot trust
So one week shy of 7 months.
That’s better than the last one that took 8 or 9 months…..can’t remember exactly.
Submitted 1/13/2023
Approved 9/6/2023
Single Shot trust
So one week shy of 7 months.
That’s better than the last one that took 8 or 9 months…..can’t remember exactly.
sorry brother, thats a week shy of 8 months.
i know because i submitted one still pending a week before you did.
You are right Charger.
My my how time flys when we are having so much fun waiting. Lol
My my how time flys when we are having so much fun waiting. Lol
6 of my cans were approved today. These were all filed on the same day back to back so I would not really call it a batch approval.
They also didn't approve all my other cans from different days I'm still waiting on. Just the 6 from that day. Not complaining though.
Filed as an individual.
filed 2-24-2023
approved 9-6-2023
6.5 month wait time
They also didn't approve all my other cans from different days I'm still waiting on. Just the 6 from that day. Not complaining though.
Filed as an individual.
filed 2-24-2023
approved 9-6-2023
6.5 month wait time
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Same here. This is my fourth and it will not be my quickest turn around.
1: 277 as individual in 2018
2: 312 on trust in 2019
3: 153 on trust in 2020
4: 245 and counting.
Hopefully it does not turn in to my longest wait. But it probably will.
Can’t recall if I posted it, but my most recent one took almost exactly 13 months; Dead Air Nomad LT. Just started month 2 of the wait on the SiCo Hybrid 46M I picked up on their BOGO sale earlier this summer, but still no word on when they’ll process the ‘free’ Omega I got with the deal.
Anyone else buy a can on Silencerco’s BOGO deal this year? If so, has anyone gotten the paperwork (well electronic paperwork I suppose) started on the ‘get one’ part of the deal?
Really want to get that second ball rolling…well, 15th ball in my case, but yeah. LoL.
Anyone else buy a can on Silencerco’s BOGO deal this year? If so, has anyone gotten the paperwork (well electronic paperwork I suppose) started on the ‘get one’ part of the deal?
Really want to get that second ball rolling…well, 15th ball in my case, but yeah. LoL.
MPX integrated barrel - eform 4 - trust
Paperwork signed/submitted - 7-14-23
Approved - - 9-09-23
57 Days!
Paperwork signed/submitted - 7-14-23
Approved - - 9-09-23
57 Days!
TB Magnus
Eform 4 - Trust
Submitted 7/11/23
Approved 9/11/23
62 Days!!!!!
Eform 4 - Trust
Submitted 7/11/23
Approved 9/11/23
62 Days!!!!!
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