Thank you for proving how much you are disconnect you are.
I never mentioned any thing about bio labs.
You are a fucking tool. We see that. Fuck off.
What's the deal with "Aid to Ukraine?"
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I never mentioned any thing about bio labs.
You are a fucking tool. We see that. Fuck off.
I’m mad because of everything that dc does. And mad when people like you hand wave away the disgusting shit that these blood-soaked monsters do with my stolen tax money
Obviously I clicked and responded to the wrong person
Life is a lot better when you aren't so butthurt all the time, and you can find a hobby you're good at that gives you a clear mind to deal with things that are upsetting. Unfortunately to enjoy the benefits of being a member of the American country club, we have to pay our dues or find somewhere else to go. No free meals, grandpa, you and all the illegals have got to go. I hear El Salvador has nice prisons.
Us Americans paying $173* billion per year to cover obesity related health issues.
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Oh, cute. We have someone who believes in the social contract. Well, fuckface. After reading the fine print of said contract I think the misleaders of this country are criminally fraudulent and should be deported to the middle of the Sahara Desert without supplies or shelter. You disgust me
Does that include everyone from your local sweet little old librarian all the way up to Trump?
We get that you are just a wanker trying to stir up shit...most of us (yeah I'm a boomer), have paid more than our share of taxes, and watched a country that used to be great, turn into a cesspool of ignorant narcissists that have no perspective.
We have for a long time stuck our noses into other countries affairs that we had no business trying to influence. Maybe it was just money, but often it was military equipment or manpower. I was among the people that volunteered and gained perspective for "young men fighting for old rich men's interests". Fuck that shit and anyone that thinks that way.
Putin is a thug, but from my perspective, I wouldn't want a neighbor having the power of NATO on my doorstep either. That little dancing midget in Ukraine can find other Euro simps to help out if he wants to continue fighting.
Cheers
About what I expected.
Mixing a hypothetical neighbor with what was factually happening before Russia said enough.
Maybe you should check the facts. The Biden regime admitted to the biolabs in Ukraine.
Do you think that there's a comparison between the USA going to Korea and Vietnam as to what Russia is doing for the eastern provinces?
I think Trump is looking at it long-term. UK, Germany, and France haven’t respected themselves enough to protect the very core of their civilizations. They have allowed rampant immigration of savages who hate Europeans, but want their better land and free hand-outs on social welfare programs. You would be wasting your time trying to explain to Ahmed how this can’t last, since his kids aren’t working and paying into the system, and the natives are getting older and not having children.
Eastern Europe is stuck in the middle of all this wondering who their actual partners are. Only the US has been reliable in that space, supplying them with advanced weapons systems that have proven to actually work, and supporting their entrance into NATO.
Trump is one of the only US Presidents with close ancestry to Germany, with Scottish on the other side. So I think it pains him to see what has happened to Europe more than most people know. He is aware of Eastern European concerns more than any other US President because he has married 2 Eastern European models already. Ivana was from Czechoslovakia, and Don Jr. learned to speak Czech. Melania is from Slovenia. The family is very familiar with the plight of Eastern Europe, more so than most people in the US foreign services, State Dept, and DoD.
The question is, does the establishment of US-based businesses and re-building efforts in Ukraine work in the interests of the US, while the core European nations move towards more civil unrest when then European-Muslim civil wars begin in the near future?
Right now, it appears the answer to that from Trump is yes. Hence his proposal to intwine Ukraine with the US in mineral extraction.
I don’t see much of the legacy media or even “alternate media” discussing things in terms that actually matter. It’s more knee-jerk, monkey-see, monkey-do Pavlovian classroom behavior from smooth-brained imbeciles.
Oh look....another thread where minds are set, no opinions matter to the other side, and many words are typed leading to insults cast in both directions. Insults to include:
Intelligence level
Homosexuality inferences
Lefty
Libs
Democrap
Right winger
Jabbed
Vaccination
Anal references
TDS
Biden Supporter
What have I missed?
Same playbook, mostly same players, different thread.
A repeating scenario that people love to play here! Im sure if the last to be insulted can get one more rib in, the other will change their mind, right?
Intelligence level
Homosexuality inferences
Lefty
Libs
Democrap
Right winger
Jabbed
Vaccination
Anal references
TDS
Biden Supporter
What have I missed?
Same playbook, mostly same players, different thread.
A repeating scenario that people love to play here! Im sure if the last to be insulted can get one more rib in, the other will change their mind, right?
Were you actually looking for intellectual discussions?
Hint: You Are In The Wrong Fucking Place. Pull the plug out of your ass and relax.
It’s funny, I talk to you in other ways and you don’t even know who I am.
Or connect that I am the same person.
Its a fun game.
My new favorite is "Chestfeeder Cheerleader". I've been using that, like, everyday lately. If the tit fits, it ships.
The "deal with aid to Ukraine" is super-simple.
Instead of shooting CAT I ammunition at rusting hulks in the impact area and merely playing with CAT II, and instead of sending old vehicles to the National Guard to go rust in Minnesota, we give them away to Ukraine and they put Commies in the dirt for us.
It's really that simple.
OH- and Trump desperately wants Z-man to surrender to the Commies, but he doesn't have the cards.
And so, the righteous slay CONTINUES...
800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... until the Soviets get back on their side of the line.
Instead of shooting CAT I ammunition at rusting hulks in the impact area and merely playing with CAT II, and instead of sending old vehicles to the National Guard to go rust in Minnesota, we give them away to Ukraine and they put Commies in the dirt for us.
It's really that simple.
OH- and Trump desperately wants Z-man to surrender to the Commies, but he doesn't have the cards.
And so, the righteous slay CONTINUES...
800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... until the Soviets get back on their side of the line.
And all the while our own borders were left wide open and undefended and thousands of illegal invaders were allowed to pour across every day under Bidens watch....The "deal with aid to Ukraine" is super-simple.
Instead of shooting CAT I ammunition at rusting hulks in the impact area and merely playing with CAT II, and instead of sending old vehicles to the National Guard to go rust in Minnesota, we give them away to Ukraine and they put Commies in the dirt for us.
It's really that simple.
OH- and Trump desperately wants Z-man to surrender to the Commies, but he doesn't have the cards.
And so, the righteous slay CONTINUES...
800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... until the Soviets get back on their side of the line.
1000's a day...1000's a day...1000's a day...1000's a day to rape, rob, murder, steal, deal drugs and exploit innocent children and all you're concerned about is Ukraine and it's dancing dwarf dictator. Well
F Biden, F the Dems, F Zelensky, F Ukraine and F you.
We were discussing Ukraine, but since you brought it up- I'm not paying a penny more than I did with Jose, and I better not hear the mower before 8AM or you're fired.
It's time for you and the other forgotten men and women need to HOP TO IT!
Their side of the line is moving closer to Kiev every day. But don't let the facts interrupt your fantasyThe "deal with aid to Ukraine" is super-simple.
Instead of shooting CAT I ammunition at rusting hulks in the impact area and merely playing with CAT II, and instead of sending old vehicles to the National Guard to go rust in Minnesota, we give them away to Ukraine and they put Commies in the dirt for us.
It's really that simple.
OH- and Trump desperately wants Z-man to surrender to the Commies, but he doesn't have the cards.
And so, the righteous slay CONTINUES...
800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... 800 a day... until the Soviets get back on their side of the line.
That is indeed a sad fact!
I've warned folks for years that the Hammer and Sickle banner was on the march westward, and that the Helsinki Surrender was the highest treason ever committed by a US President, in or out of office, ever in American history.
Thankfully the Free World has strong leaders that can fill the void left by the absence of American leadership, and keep the fires burning until we can once again staff the role of POTUS with a man of substance and character who represents American values!
Cheering on the slaughter of Ukraine, how great it is you are using them… then you wanna talk about values.
You are one sick fuck.
Values are keeping your word. When the wall fell we told the Russians we wouldn’t expand. We did.
You don’t have anything resembling value. Just greed and willingness to fuck others over to get want you want, seemingly oblivious to the consequences of what you push.
That destruction lay at your feet.
You wouldn’t know what good moral upstanding values were. They were sitting on your fucking face.
The fact that someone could actually believe this, let alone type it out on a form that focuses on shooting, is at a level of bat shit crazy. The limp-wristed leadership in Europe will do nothing to change the dynamics of the war. Turn off your TV and quit swallowing the bullshit that MSM is trying to feed you.Oh.... the famous "pinky promise" that never happened?
LOL
You and the other Commie shitholes sure wish you got that one in writing in some kind of Treaty... don't you?
What was it James Baker... or someone else... said now that the Evil Empire is gone... blah blah... "not one inch!"
Was the Evil Empire really gone though? All the same Commies retained power.... and every few years the Soviets launch a poorly planned invasion of New Europe. That's inch-ing!
Anyway, all irrelevant- The Commies will never derive any benefit whatsoever from those acres of pounded mud, but will continue to pay a heavy price...every day... until they get back on their side of the line.
Unintentionally, you have summed up what makes this place so utterly FASCINATING.
This is a shooting forum... a place where typically American values and culture are upheld... yet down here in this one little sub-forum exists forgotten men (and women?) practicing their very best memorization of Pravda.ru talking points, and sharing their hatred of America with each other.
You Little-Red-Book Commies sound like you're competing to win a free Condo in the Donbass.
It must be an online-thing, because most American men will still slap a Commie right in the face for taking up the Hammer and Sickle banner. No matter though...
In the meantime, the righteous slay CONTINUES.
Unintentionally, you have summed up what makes this place so utterly FASCINATING.
This is a shooting forum... a place where typically American values and culture are upheld... yet down here in this one little sub-forum exists forgotten men (and women?) practicing their very best memorization of Pravda.ru talking points, and sharing their hatred of America with each other.
You Little-Red-Book Commies sound like you're competing to win a free Condo in the Donbass.
It must be an online-thing, because most American men will still slap a Commie right in the face for taking up the Hammer and Sickle banner. No matter though...
In the meantime, the righteous slay CONTINUES.
I want better material.
Tell me another fairy tale like the "pinky promise."
Let's hear that wild shit you guys are slurping on...
GO!
Tell me another fairy tale like the "pinky promise."
Let's hear that wild shit you guys are slurping on...
GO!
Good Job numb nuts.
The problem with people like you is you don't realize this could have been achieved (Ukraine flipping west) with out a civil/proxy war. That is why you are a fucking retard. The country, the infastructure, the people and good relations could have been preserved.
Pushing the coup was fucking wrong.
And that is why you are an Idiot. Fucking something up is one thing. To countiune down that path not recognizing the errors of your ways is another.
I'd like to believe you are just being a shit head troll, but I think you are actually really just that fucking stupid.
Does this guy know there's different departments with different jobs in the US government, with entirely different tasks, authorities, budgets and even people working there?
You are a fucking idiot. And a liar.
The first concrete assurances by Western leaders on NATO began on January 31, 1990, when West German Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher opened the bidding with a major public speech at Tutzing, in Bavaria, on German unification. The U.S. Embassy in Bonn (see Document 1) informed Washington that Genscher made clear “that the changes in Eastern Europe and the German unification process must not lead to an ‘impairment of Soviet security interests.’ Therefore, NATO should rule out an ‘expansion of its territory towards the east, i.e. moving it closer to the Soviet borders.’” The Bonn cable also noted Genscher’s proposal to leave the East German territory out of NATO military structures even in a unified Germany in NATO
This latter idea of special status for the GDR territory was codified in the final German unification treaty signed on September 12, 1990, by the Two-Plus-Four foreign ministers (see Document 25). The former idea about “closer to the Soviet borders” is written down not in treaties but in multiple memoranda of conversation between the Soviets and the highest-level Western interlocutors (Genscher, Kohl, Baker, Gates, Bush, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Major, Woerner, and others) offering assurances throughout 1990 and into 1991 about protecting Soviet security interests and including the USSR in new European security structures. The two issues were related but not the same. Subsequent analysis sometimes conflated the two and argued that the discussion did not involve all of Europe. The documents published below show clearly that it did.
The “Tutzing formula” immediately became the center of a flurry of important diplomatic discussions over the next 10 days in 1990, leading to the crucial February 10, 1990, meeting in Moscow between Kohl and Gorbachev when the West German leader achieved Soviet assent in principle to German unification in NATO, as long as NATO did not expand to the east. The Soviets would need much more time to work with their domestic opinion (and financial aid from the West Germans) before formally signing the deal in September 1990.
The conversations before Kohl’s assurance involved explicit discussion of NATO expansion, the Central and East European countries, and how to convince the Soviets to accept unification. For example, on February 6, 1990, when Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, “The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next.” (See Document 2)
Having met with Genscher on his way into discussions with the Soviets, Baker repeated exactly the Genscher formulation in his meeting with Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze on February 9, 1990, (see Document 4); and even more importantly, face to face with Gorbachev.
Not once, but three times, Baker tried out the “not one inch eastward” formula with Gorbachev in the February 9, 1990, meeting. He agreed with Gorbachev’s statement in response to the assurances that “NATO expansion is unacceptable.” Baker assured Gorbachev that “neither the President nor I intend to extract any unilateral advantages from the processes that are taking place,” and that the Americans understood that “not only for the Soviet Union but for other European countries as well it is important to have guarantees that if the United States keeps its presence in Germany within the framework of NATO, not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.” (See Document 6)
Afterwards, Baker wrote to Helmut Kohl who would meet with the Soviet leader on the next day, with much of the very same language. Baker reported: “And then I put the following question to him [Gorbachev]. Would you prefer to see a united Germany outside of NATO, independent and with no U.S. forces or would you prefer a unified Germany to be tied to NATO, with assurances that NATO’s jurisdiction would not shift one inch eastward from its present position? He answered that the Soviet leadership was giving real thought to all such options [….] He then added, ‘Certainly any extension of the zone of NATO would be unacceptable.’” Baker added in parentheses, for Kohl’s benefit, “By implication, NATO in its current zone might be acceptable.” (See Document 8)
Well-briefed by the American secretary of state, the West German chancellor understood a key Soviet bottom line, and assured Gorbachev on February 10, 1990: “We believe that NATO should not expand the sphere of its activity.” (See Document 9) After this meeting, Kohl could hardly contain his excitement at Gorbachev’s agreement in principle for German unification and, as part of the Helsinki formula that states choose their own alliances, so Germany could choose NATO. Kohl described in his memoirs walking all night around Moscow – but still understanding there was a price still to pay.
All the Western foreign ministers were on board with Genscher, Kohl, and Baker. Next came the British foreign minister, Douglas Hurd, on April 11, 1990. At this point, the East Germans had voted overwhelmingly for the deutschmark and for rapid unification, in the March 18 elections in which Kohl had surprised almost all observers with a real victory. Kohl’s analyses (first explained to Bush on December 3, 1989) that the GDR’s collapse would open all possibilities, that he had to run to get to the head of the train, that he needed U.S. backing, that unification could happen faster than anyone thought possible – all turned out to be correct. Monetary union would proceed as early as July and the assurances about security kept coming. Hurd reinforced the Baker-Genscher-Kohl message in his meeting with Gorbachev in Moscow, April 11, 1990, saying that Britain clearly “recognized the importance of doing nothing to prejudice Soviet interests and dignity.”
Transcripts of the conversation.
Its called reading and comprehension. Try it.
1.Kyiv not Kiev.
2.
Institute for the Study of War
The rate of Russian advances in Ukraine has been steadily declining since November 2024, in part due to successful Ukrainian counterattacks in eastern Ukraine.
The rate of Russian advances in Ukraine has been steadily declining since November 2024, in part due to successful Ukrainian counterattacks in eastern Ukraine. The UK Ministry of Defense (MoD) reported on April 5 that Russian forces advanced 143 square kilometers in Ukraine in March 2025 as Ukrainian forces conducted successful tactical counterattacks in the Pokrovsk direction.[1] The UK MoD reported that the rate of Russian advances in Ukraine has decreased each month since November 2024, as Russian forces seized roughly 730 square kilometers in November 2024, 393 square kilometers in December 2024, 326 square kilometers in January 2025, and 195 square kilometers in February 2025.[2]
You should especially like this point, as supporters of renaming - restoring historical names
3.Moscovites not Russian.
Zelenskyy responds to petition on renaming Russia to Muscovy
"This name was used in European and some Asian languages. This name also appears on many historical maps of the 16th-19th centuries, which were produced in Europe before and after the renaming of the Muscovite Empire to the Russian Empire," the petition says.The author of the appeal emphasises that "Russia has existed for only 301 years"— since 22 October 1721, when Muscovian Tsar Peter I proclaimed the Muscovy Kingdom to be the "Russian Empire".
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