The lawsuits are starting

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All the folks across the nation that have been arrested for DUI while 100% sober so the pigs could get free pizza are starting to sue the municipalities that unlawfully arrested and charged them with crimes they were 100% innocent of . And the tax payers will foot the bill . And suddenly for no reason at all folks fucking hated them
 
Unfortunately its tax payers who foot the bill

Ya know what. Perhaps the taxpayer needs to really get fucked good enough to realize that we need to elect slightly better scumbags to political office.

So if we had mayor's and sheriff's and governors who only hired qualified decent police officers. Maybe if we put a few corrupt judges and DA's in jail. Then sober drivers wouldn't have to worry about dwi.
 
Disclaimer: I didn't watch the video.

The legalization of marijuana and the number of people on prescription drugs has opened up a loophole for them. They may have a breathalyzer test that reads zero point zero and the cops just say that the driver exhibited traits of an intoxicated driver. I didn't know if they were on some other substance that impaired their driving. They were given a blood test and the results take several days to weeks so we have to treat them like they were driving under the influence.
The defense: These officers have a very difficult job to do, keeping the public safe and they are doing the very best to do so. They were acting upon the training they received. (You can't criticize until you have put on the uniform)
Results: The citizen is fucked and the cops get " more training".
 
I don't need them to 'keep me safe' & I certainly don't need them to violate my rights whilst doing so. Police PREVENT almost zero crime, though they do show up after the fact & oftentimes get the bad guy, which is nice... This attitude that everyone's the bad guy has got to stop though, even today most people in this country are just regular folks trying to get by. I know police see a lot of criminals, but not everyone is a criminal & you shouldn't treat them as such.
 
Disclaimer: I didn't watch the video.

The legalization of marijuana and the number of people on prescription drugs has opened up a loophole for them. They may have a breathalyzer test that reads zero point zero and the cops just say that the driver exhibited traits of an intoxicated driver. I didn't know if they were on some other substance that impaired their driving. They were given a blood test and the results take several days to weeks so we have to treat them like they were driving under the influence.
The defense: These officers have a very difficult job to do, keeping the public safe and they are doing the very best to do so. They were acting upon the training they received. (You can't criticize until you have put on the uniform)
Results: The citizen is fucked and the cops get " more training".
Wonderful satire - well played I give it a 8.7!
 
I don't need them to 'keep me safe' & I certainly don't need them to violate my rights whilst doing so. Police PREVENT almost zero crime, though they do show up after the fact & oftentimes get the bad guy, which is nice... This attitude that everyone's the bad guy has got to stop though, even today most people in this country are just regular folks trying to get by. I know police see a lot of criminals, but not everyone is a criminal & you shouldn't treat them as such.
Dude, these guys are HEROES! They deserve all the free coffee they can drink at the local convenience store!

Cops have investigated the hero claim and determined they are all HEROES!
 
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Cops like that need a hard kick to the nuts and a throat punch. Most are so clueless and fat they would puke and roll around in it long enough to drive off. We should be able to physically defend ourselves against such bullshittery, without persecution, or prosecution. When these stinker cops feel pain for doing bad, this crap will stop. What these bad cops are doing is tyranny. There's only on solution for tyranny, no matter what the peaceniks say.
 

Another recent example of "oops, our bad" on the topic.
Yep the dui for profit may have started in AZ but Tennessee picked up the ball and ran with it - over 600 false arrests in a short time for one thing that people DIDN’T do in a short amount of time .
Think on how hard you’d have to work to fuck up your job/ people’s lives 600 times .
 
Yep the dui for profit may have started in AZ but Tennessee picked up the ball and ran with it - over 600 false arrests in a short time for one thing that people DIDN’T do in a short amount of time .
Think on how hard you’d have to work to fuck up your job/ people’s lives 600 times .
Unfortunately (that doesn't seem like the correct term to use but I'll roll with it) it's my belief that AZ and TN are just two examples of it being looked at and it's ugly behind the curtain. A similar news story ran in my AO within the past year (I'm in PA) where it was being briefly covered the number of DUI arrests that had their bloodwork come back completely negative for either drugs or alcohol. I'm hesitant to quote hard metrics on that since I was unable to find that story tonight but I seem to recall it was in the 10% range. And that's stone-cold/certified sober. That also didn't account for the bloodwork where the alcohol content was below the legal limit. I seem to remember there being a bit of a threshold mentioned in that story (a DUI can stand here even if you are technically under the legal limit if "proven" intoxicated).

What got me with the story locally here, and I'd imagine it's similar elsewhere in the country, is these folks had their mugshots posted within 24 hours in the local news, posted on Facebook pages of the arresting police department, and also on "crime watch, PA" which a local thing here at least and caused all kinds of problems with their employment, social circles, and general reputation. It also cost them thousands of dollars retaining legal representation (if they "could" afford it) only for the DA to get the results and decide 'eh not worth pursuing' and dismissing the charges outright and not pursuing prosecution. The personal, social, and financial damage that occurred previously is just chalked up as "the cost of doing business" for them and consequences be damned because only the falsely accused has to deal with the turmoil created. And, it boggles the mind to recognize that this is actually the "best case scenario" for the individual caught in the web of judicial machine.

I'll also go one step further and offer an angle I'd love to see looked into but I haven't personally seen done, dollars to doughnuts the official police report contains sensationalized data about the arrest which likely is easily disputed these days by the dash & body cams. If my first belief were to prove accurate, I'd be VERY interested to see an analysis on how often the same exact language/ storyline plays out on similar police reports from that department and see if it's to the point where certain terminology is presented as unique facts when in reality it's boilerplate language as "how to do it" to make sure the arrest "sticks".

My apologies for being longwinded here- reckon that's exactly what you were getting at succinctly by the "ruining lives 600 times" comment but this is a particular, I'll call it "issue", that I've seen played out multiple times by those close to me so admittedly it's a bit personal for me and I likely let that come through here.

That said- first appreciate you letting me vent and hope I didn't hijack your thread but secondly- just wanted to clarify my rant is more directed towards the system itself than any particular 'participant' in that industry. That'd be a whole other discussion after all and I've taken enough time in this thread.

-LD
 
Unfortunately (that doesn't seem like the correct term to use but I'll roll with it) it's my belief that AZ and TN are just two examples of it being looked at and it's ugly behind the curtain. A similar news story ran in my AO within the past year (I'm in PA) where it was being briefly covered the number of DUI arrests that had their bloodwork come back completely negative for either drugs or alcohol. I'm hesitant to quote hard metrics on that since I was unable to find that story tonight but I seem to recall it was in the 10% range. And that's stone-cold/certified sober. That also didn't account for the bloodwork where the alcohol content was below the legal limit. I seem to remember there being a bit of a threshold mentioned in that story (a DUI can stand here even if you are technically under the legal limit if "proven" intoxicated).

What got me with the story locally here, and I'd imagine it's similar elsewhere in the country, is these folks had their mugshots posted within 24 hours in the local news, posted on Facebook pages of the arresting police department, and also on "crime watch, PA" which a local thing here at least and caused all kinds of problems with their employment, social circles, and general reputation. It also cost them thousands of dollars retaining legal representation (if they "could" afford it) only for the DA to get the results and decide 'eh not worth pursuing' and dismissing the charges outright and not pursuing prosecution. The personal, social, and financial damage that occurred previously is just chalked up as "the cost of doing business" for them and consequences be damned because only the falsely accused has to deal with the turmoil created. And, it boggles the mind to recognize that this is actually the "best case scenario" for the individual caught in the web of judicial machine.

I'll also go one step further and offer an angle I'd love to see looked into but I haven't personally seen done, dollars to doughnuts the official police report contains sensationalized data about the arrest which likely is easily disputed these days by the dash & body cams. If my first belief were to prove accurate, I'd be VERY interested to see an analysis on how often the same exact language/ storyline plays out on similar police reports from that department and see if it's to the point where certain terminology is presented as unique facts when in reality it's boilerplate language as "how to do it" to make sure the arrest "sticks".

My apologies for being longwinded here- reckon that's exactly what you were getting at succinctly by the "ruining lives 600 times" comment but this is a particular, I'll call it "issue", that I've seen played out multiple times by those close to me so admittedly it's a bit personal for me and I likely let that come through here.

That said- first appreciate you letting me vent and hope I didn't hijack your thread but secondly- just wanted to clarify my rant is more directed towards the system itself than any particular 'participant' in that industry. That'd be a whole other discussion after all and I've taken enough time in this thread.

-LD
Yes happening everywhere- here in my AO- MI- FL- NM is real bad , AZ TN , PA . And the 600 is a nominal figure - probably in the 100,000s .
Many plead guilty to lesser charges I’m sure over the years .
 
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Yes happening everywhere- here in my AO- MI- FL- NM is real bad , AZ TN , PA . And the 600 is a nominal figure - probably in the 100,000s .
Many plead guilty to lesser charges I’m sure over the years .
PM me sometime if you want- it sounds like we can have a good conversation on this topic but I don't want to carpet bomb your thread here with my own biases. But for the sake of conversation- your comment rings true to what I've been made aware of and touches on my previous remark about the 'system'.

I've been here a minute and know how the "uniform hanger" and general ACAB threads go (along with who is in which camp). I'd prefer to remain neutral publicly on the particular topic for personal reasons but I will say that both sides of the proverbial coin have merit (some may have more counterpoints than the others) but for me- I feel that we have a major problem in our society with what the judicial system has become BUT I don't know if I can in good conscience jump into a camp that blames it all on the police nor can I hop into the side that defends them blindly either. There's merit to both points but I can't help but believe that's focusing on a minutia of a bigger problem is all. Respect everyone's opinion to the contrary as well but that's just one stranger's two cents.

-LD