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stoney15

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So I just bought a GAP .308 off of the classifieds. I have done a little reloading for my .204 and .223, all with RCBS equipment. What dies do you guys suggest for percision .308 work?? And is there any special equipment you would suggest?

Thanks
 
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get a set of rcbs competition dies and don't look back. they are the best ive used for .308 precision. micrometer bullet seater with the window in the die. they work great. zero run out when your done.
 
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Loading with no runout takes a lot more than dies, it also requires perfect case necks, every time, and that ain't gonna happen in this lifetime.

All manufactored products have tolerances and, if the tolerances stack right, any common seater die can work as well as the most costly ... but that's not common. The better designed seaters have features that insure while they may not be perfect all the time they will never be very 'bad'.

The Forster and Redding comp seaters are truly 'straight line'. They both have spring-loaded, full length body sleeves that align the case and body before seating begins so they're as good as it gets for threaded dies and presses.

RCBS' costly seater sleeves are short and loosely fitted so they can fall with gravity; at best, they can ONLY align a bullet to the case mouth, not the body. The side loading window device requires the shell holder to be mounted on an extender and the extender itself is another potential for case-to-bullet misalignment. It's obvious that some people love the bullet side loading feature but I know of no serious competitive marksmen using that die.

A micrometer seater head does nothing for the ammo, it's simply a user convenience for making OAL changes.

Many of us have learned to love Lee's Collet Neck die because it insures the straightest possible necks no matter the thickness of the case necks and we don't have to fuss around with bushings for a factory chamber. Combine that neck die with anyone's body die and we can do 'full length sizing' with good necks.
 
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Agree with Poke

Buy Redding competition seater and thier Type S bushing full length sizer. This question has been posted several times recently and I gave lengthy responses (as did others). Search my last few posts if you want the "why".

Oh and not a fan of the RCBS competition seater or FL sizer.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stoney15</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So I just bought a GAP .308 off of the classifieds. I have done a little reloading for my .204 and .223, all with RCBS equipment. What dies do you guys suggest for percision .308 work?? And is there any special equipment you would suggest?

Thanks </div></div>

Here's a no BS answer.....there is no perfect answer. One may have the latest greatest dies and have a press that is slightly out of line. I've seen guys spend $$ on dies, only to discover their press ram was slightly off or their shellholder was slightly off. I've got Lee dies that load better ammo than my buddies Redding OR...do I know how to do it better than him? This is planet earth, this is nothing that's perfect. Solid fundamentals trump everything.
 
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If somebody thinks the average press "is slightly off" whatever that means? Then buy a concentricity gauge and find out if you have reason for concern. (no BS)

I'm getting tired of all this chatter about defective reloading tools. If there is a slight misalignment, (rare) then the average handloader would never be aware of it and could not blame some mysterious miss on his crummy misaligned $300 press. Most manufacturers employ qualified personnel using expensive testing equipment. They all have a quality control department and their job is to ensure that the product is well made and accurate. Just my opinion, for what it's worth. BB