Rifle Scopes Super high quality opric's question's

[Big_Country]

A long time ago I saw someone who did a side by side comparison with the Premier Heritage and Zeiss Hensoldt. I can't remember which scope x's were used but I remember someone saying how different the scope magnification was between the two. I do remember whoever posted it inquiring about how one of the scope's had to be off with magnification because they were so different when looking through both.

Can someone show me some results like this that has both scope's or maybe fill me in?

I really appreciate it.
Much respect,
-Sv

 

[Mo_Zam_Beek]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

I will tell you that a 15x on my PH is equivalent to more like 12x on my S&B.


Good luck

 

[Big_Country]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will tell you that a 15x on my PH is equivalent to more like 12x on my S&B.


Good luck </div></div>

This is exactly what I am talking about. In terms of math here is either right or wrong period. If your scope is set @ 10x, the target should appear 10x its actual size.

With what Mo said, either PH or S&B are wrong. But than again, they could both be wrong... S&B actual size @ 10x could be to big and PH could be to small etc vise versa.

Does anyone have some vast amount of experience in dealing with optic's like this that has some input? This is pretty important IMO especially when estimating range etc...

Much respect,
-Sv

 

[Chris@InterstateGuns]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

could it be the field of view giving the optical illusion that the object is different sizes? 10x is 10x, it's not like ring manufacturers using the term "low" for rings and one is .88 and the other is .886.

 

[Big_Country]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cds7221</div><div class="ubbcode-body">could it be the field of view giving the optical illusion that the object is different sizes? 10x is 10x, it's not like ring manufacturers using the term "low" for rings and one is .88 and the other is .886. </div></div>

No illusion. I have seen pictures of this and seen the actual difference. The actual size of the object is bigger/smaller when looking through both scopes. Had nothing to do with FOV.

And yes 10x is 10x and when looking through these scopes when on the same x setting the object was signifigantly larger in size than in the other scope. I am not saying the scope that shows the object at a larger scale is better or worse because of that. I am wondering which scope companies "I think it was ZH along side a PH" were so different. I am not for the larger/smaller image. I would be more interested in the scope that is showing the correct object size @ the power setting.

This might tick some people off if this is researched some more. But I saw what I saw. Someone posted it here a long time ago "years" and I remember looking at pictures the op put up "if I remember right" at both scope set on the 12x setting and 1 showed the object signifigantly larger than the other.

Thanks,
-Sv

 

[VKC]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

This is an excellent scope comparison topic thread that I'm aware of:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1128938

The actual degree with magnification (e.g. 15x etc) should be the same between all manufacturers. The actual marked/label magnification number on the scope may not match up exactly. But when a scope is truly on whatever x it has the same magnification as another scope on that same magnification.

The difference between different companies and scopes is the field of view, image clarity, eye relief and light transmission...which affect your perceived magnification differences. In other words, a higher-quality scope will have a clear crisper image than a lower quality glass at the same magnification.

 

[Chris@InterstateGuns]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vkc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The actual degree with magnification (e.g. 15x etc) should be the same between all manufacturers. The actual marked/label magnification number on the scope may not match up exactly. But when a scope is truly on whatever x it has the same magnification as another scope on that same magnification.

The difference between different companies and scopes is the field of view, image clarity, eye relief and light transmission...which affect your perceived magnification differences. In other words, a higher-quality scope will have a clear crisper image than a lower quality glass at the same magnification. </div></div>

That's what I was trying to get at, thanks.

 

[Big_Country]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

That's the one I was looking for. Thanks for the find. I will read into it since it's been a while

Thank for all the replies and help.
Much respect,
-Sv

 

[SRSDriver]

Re: Super high quality opric's question's

The magnification setting won't affect ranging on Either of those scopes, as they are both FFP.

As for the other differences, I'll bet 1x to 10x, they both track optically- any perceived differences are likely operator differences(position, focus) or clarity /light transmission/ parallax.