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Jackalope33B

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Read on another forum that a few people were throwing their take apart .22 baffles in the oven to heat them with "MILI-TEC" oil. It supposed to create a teflon type surface on the baffles and make cleaning alot easier. seeing as how mili-tec reccomends this on thier website, is it feasable for baffles? Ever hear of this?

 
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I've never heard of it, but if Teflon is similar to the way that mil-tech works that would make sense.

I had buddies on deployment that would clean their guns daily with Miltech every day and their carbines were buttery smooth to operate. Mine didn't jam either, but it didn't have the same Cadillac pimp buttery smooth operation as theirs.

They were the type of people who sharpen knives with steel till they can shave hair, so weapons cleaning was just another way to burn off duty time for them.
 
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Thinkin'about that, you can try a product named anti-splatter,it's a cheap spray can used by the welders_no bakery:you spray it before,and after shooting the carbon deposits,etc.comes easy away_I use it on revolver's cylinder front face & sides_ you can find it in any good welder's stuff store_
 
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Direct from the Militec website.. Seems promising! Might be doing it to my AR bolt as well.....

CHARACTERISTICS: MILITEC-1 Synthetic Metal Conditioner has the unique ability to create a complex, molecular compound within the surface of heated gunmetal. This causes MILITEC-1 to become part of the metal, not merely a temporary coating or a boundary film. There are two main characteristics of this safe new compound. First, it seals and conditions the metal by stiffening (not hardening) the metal surface. Second, it makes the gunmetal self-lubricating under all environmental conditions.

SELF-LUBRICATION: After a complete application, a MILITEC-1 conditioned firearm is self-lubricating. Self-lubrication gives the firearm's gunmetal the dry lubricity that is required for sustained fire under all environmental conditions. If exposure to dust, sand, or extreme cold is a concern, all excess MILITEC-1 must be wiped away, leaving the firearm's surface metal clean, dry, and constantly lubricated. Please note: Complete corrosion protection and self-lubrication is attained only after both Step One and Step Two (below) are completed.

PREPARATION: To take full advantage of MILITEC-1's unique properties, start with a clean firearm. Although MILITEC-1 contains a mild detergent that will help with subsequent cleaning, there are no solvents or other hazardous materials in MILITEC-1, so it cannot remove old caked-on fouling and build-up from other lubes. Thus, if a firearm is dirty, you must clean it with a solvent before you proceed. Normal fieldstrip cleaning should be perfectly adequate. If possible, remove the handgrips, clean and prepare.

INITIAL TREATMENT: Applying MILITEC-1 to a firearm for the first time is a two-step process: (1) Application and (2) Firing.

STEP ONE: APPLICATION. Now that the firearm is clean and dry, apply a light film of MILITEC-1 to all surfaces, including the bore. Burnish/polish MILITEC-1 into exterior surfaces by rubbing rapidly using a cloth lightly dampened with MILITEC-1. Sparingly apply drops into the action, concentrating on springs, moving parts and metal-to-metal contact areas. If your firearm has a magazine, be sure to apply MILITEC-1 both inside and out. Leave a very light film of MILITEC-1 on all surfaces during reassembly. Now proceed to Step Two.

STEP TWO: FIRING. Once you fire your weapon enough times to reach operating temperatures, the heat and friction will activate MILITEC-1, strengthening the bonding process that was started in Step One. While firing, MILITEC-1 creates a self-lubricating, water-repelling, dry compound within the gunmetal.

Additional Application Instructions: If Step Two is not immediately possible, consider applying low heat to the firearm to facilitate the bonding process until you can perform Step Two. In field conditions, place your lubed firearm in the sun underneath black plastic or a similar ventilated heat source for at least two hours. Alternatively, you may use a heat gun, hairdryer, burnishing or polishing tool to heat the gunmetal. In heat controlled environments, do not exceed 150° F (65° C). In all applications that require heat to condition the firearm, always insure proper ventilation and wear protective clothing. Please consult our MSDS for additional information.

ULTIMATE PROTECTION: To maximize the effects of MILITEC-1, repeat Step One and Step Two while the firearm is still hot from the first firing session. MILITEC-1's impregnated molecular bond intensifies during the next 2-3 applications on hot gunmetal. MILITEC-1 has now become a physical part of the gunmetal.

SUBSEQUENT APPLICATIONS: It is important to continue using MILITEC-1 to lubricate your firearm throughout its normal service life. Consistent use of MILITEC-1 will maintain the self-lubricating effect, maximize corrosion protection, and minimize wear on all friction surfaces. Fouling, deposits and metallic debris do not adhere as easily to gunmetal surfaces conditioned with MILITEC-1. Use a safe, inexpensive cleaner or solvent to detail the firearm, if necessary. For maximum corrosion protection, and especially if long-term storage is anticipated, leave a very light film of MILITEC-1 on all surfaces, after both steps or field application procedures are completed.

APPLICABILITY: MILITEC-1 is recommended for all pistols, shotguns, rifles, automatic weapons, tank guns and artillery of all calibers and sizes. Note: MILITEC-1 will alleviate jamming due to tight tolerances.
 
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Just a random aside here. If you have a pet bird, move it before firing up the oven. Heated Teflon can be toxic to birds.

Sorry to throw that out randomly.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Miles2go</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just a random aside here. If you have a pet bird, move it before firing up the oven. Heated Teflon can be toxic to birds.

Sorry to throw that out randomly.</div></div>
MILTEC-1 does not contain any Teflon...

As to the OP,
Give it a try.
It certainly won't hurt anything.
The worst that will happen is that it will smoke a bit if you get it hot enough.

As to MILTEC-1
I once was a huge fan of their products, but have since moved on to products that fill specific needs.
For example, on AR platform weapons, MILTEC-1 is just too thin.
It blows and burns off whereas products such as SLIP 2000 & Mobile-1 do not.
Sure, you can do the whole metal conditioning thing with MILTEC-1 and run it dry, buy it functions much better running it wet.
 
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I wonder if I could try this in a Chrome Bolt Carrier Group? Anyone know if there are any Cons to heating up a Chrome Bolt Carrier group?

My Mite Can will be in tomorrow. Ill be sure to try the Militec method on it..
 
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So Militec claims that it bonds with the metal on a molecular level? I find that hard to believe. If so, why do you still need to keep it oiled? Seems more likely that you're just opening up the metal's pores by heating it, then letting it soak up Militec as it cools. Couldn't you do this with any oil?
 
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Not sure if any oil will work.. Ill try militec and report back..<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XxMerlinxX</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So Militec claims that it bonds with the metal on a molecular level? I find that hard to believe. If so, why do you still need to keep it oiled? Seems more likely that you're just opening up the metal's pores by heating it, then letting it soak up Militec as it cools. Couldn't you do this with any oil? </div></div>
 
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Kinda like using PAM spray that you have in your kitchen lol

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wilecoyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thinkin'about that, you can try a product named anti-splatter,it's a cheap spray can used by the welders_no bakery:you spray it before,and after shooting the carbon deposits,etc.comes easy away_I use it on revolver's cylinder front face & sides_ you can find it in any good welder's stuff store_ </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Direct from the Militec website.. Seems promising! Might be doing it to my AR bolt as well.....


<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">SELF-LUBRICATION: After a complete application, a MILITEC-1 conditioned firearm is self-lubricating. Self-lubrication gives the firearm's gunmetal the dry lubricity that is required for sustained fire under all environmental condi</span>tio</span>ns.</span> If exposure to dust, sand, or extreme cold is a concern, all excess MILITEC-1 must be wiped away, leaving the firearm's surface metal clean, dry, and constantly lubricated. Please note: Complete corrosion protection and self-lubrication is attained only after both Step One and Step Two (below) are completed.

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<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">SUBSEQUENT APPLICATIONS: It is important to continue using MILITEC-1 to lubricate your firearm throughout its normal service</span> li</span>fe.</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Consistent use of MILITEC-1 will maintain the self-lubricating </span>eff</span>ect</span>, maximize corrosion protection, and minimize wear on all friction surfaces. Fouling, deposits and metallic debris do not adhere as easily to gunmetal surfaces conditioned with MILITEC-1. Use a safe, inexpensive cleaner or solvent to detail the firearm, if necessary. For maximum corrosion protection, and especially if long-term storage is anticipated, leave a very light film of MILITEC-1 on all surfaces, after both steps or field application procedures are completed.


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i dont know Militech-1 from old motor oil.. that said... the two sections i highlighted seem to be a bit of a self fulfilling to me.

maybe i'm just over reading it. But then again i'm always skeptical of products that make fabulous claims.
 
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I understand what you are saying. I was just curious to know if anyone tried this method.
Im going to spray some Pam baking oil in my can this weekend and see if that helps with the fouling and make cleaning easier..
 
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Ref the miltec an cleaning ease, dont have a can yet to try it but I've used Gunzilla for the past few years on rifle an pistol an it does quite well.
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Its not crazy strong in a make your eyes cross sense, however it does a good job cleaning. An the more I use it the more it seems to ease the cleaning time and work (as in elbow grease etc).
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Not sure if anyone has used it much but might want to give it a look.
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http://www.topduckproducts.com/