Rifle Scopes Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

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I received my Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32 56mm ½ mildot 20x reticle of which I've had my eye on for quite some time. My first impressions were just that – impressed. The packaging and overall size / finish of the scope were indeed impressive.

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The 30mm tubed 56mm objective scope comes with a sunshade, screw in objective and ocular lens covers, large sidewheel and magnification indicator for precise focusing on the side focus feature that adjusts from 10 yards to infinity, ¼ MOA reset to zero turret adjustments equalling 53 MOA of adjustment. The scope measures 17” long without the sunshade, weighs 27.9 oz. FOV on 8X @ 100 yards is 13.1 ft, 3.3 ft on 32X. Also according to the manufactures data, the eye relief is 3.7”, the half dot illuminated reticle is a true mildot ranging at 20X (which is confirmed) and the bars on the impressive reticle are spaced at .2 mil for additional ranging feature. The crosshairs are not too thick and are actually thin enough not to cover up a target at longer distances – actually bordering on a fine crosshair. The reticle itself is of a “floating” nature. The half mildot “bowties” are not distracting, and are pretty useful in ranging and elevation or windage holdover / holdoffs, and IMO one of or even the nicest reticle out there.

Also in the box where 1 allen wrench for the sidewheel, and a torx wrench for resetting the turrets to zero, a lens cloth, and a spare battery for the illuminated green or red reticle.
Hawke also provides a ballistic program on their website that can be downloaded to help with ranging and holdovers with the reticle.

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Besides the side focus, there is an ocular lens adjustment that has a locking ring.

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The turrets are of a push pull design, resettable to zero, have very audible and felt clicks. There is a little “mush” to them, but still not all that bad. There are no stadia lines to remind you that you have passed “0”, but stadia lines are hard if not impossible to do in a push pull turret design. The turrets are well marked, they have “U” and “R” with arrows to give you positive direction of turning. The windage turret goes to #7 both turning right and turning left. From the dead bottom to dead top in elevation adjustment, there were 220 “clicks” (3 full revolutions + 40 clicks), windage provided 214 “clicks” (3 full revolutions + 34 clicks).

The illumination controls for the reticle is incorporated into the side focus wheel, which leaves a clean effiecient look.

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A view of the objective lens with and without the screw in cap, removal of the turret cap show the mechanicals underneath, and you can see the overall size of the scope compared to a $20.00 bill for comparison.

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The side wheel is a bit large, and probably more of an encumberance than a help to some, luckily it is removable.

The finish of the scope is a matte black, and the magnification ring, turrets, and side focus / illumination knobs are marked well and easily manipulated.

The scope seems very eye relief sensitive. If you are not aligned properly, you will definitely get a dark or partial view.

When first received, I looked through the scope and found a small blemish in the glass. When the illumination was engaged, a distinct dot appeared and the blemish became more apparent. After going to the range, I noticed that at around 23X the scope started to lose it’s brightness became a bit milky, but still usable up to 32X. At 22X and below, the scope was very bright and clear. However for a $400.00+ priced scope, I was expecting better in the higher magnification range.

At 100 and 200 yards, there seems to be a bit of blur to things, having an almost double vision to it. Targets were black dots on white paper, which at 23X seemed to turn the black dots to a grayish hue, and fuzzy around the edges. Other multi colored targets seemed blend together. I tried and retried to focus using the sidewheel and ocular adjustment in combination, but with no success. When adjusting the ocular, I witnessed the crosshairs move around in a circle.

Thinking it was just me, I pulled out a cheapie walmart $70.00 scope on its full power of 16X and then setting the Sidewinder to 16X, the $70.00 scope seemed to be better in the sharp focusing department. The Sidewinder was brighter, but did not have as sharp of an image.

So I decided to return it, thinking it was one bad scope out the many (it happens) and ordered another. The second one didn’t have any glass blemishes that I can see, however this one too was turning milky @ 23X. It had the same focusing issues. The crosshairs did not do a circular motion when focusing the ocular, but compared it again to the Walmart $70.00 scope, again the “lesser” scope had a sharper image.

So trying 2 Sidewinders, both had the same focusing / sharp image problem. For a $400.00+ listed scope, I had expected better, and immediately returned the second one. Both sources of supply were happy to return the scope for a full refund, and questions were answered quickly from Hawke, so they do have good customer support.

I did a lot of homework before the purchase, it’s hard pressed to find a reported issued with the Sidewinders, but after 2 scopes with the same issues, I think it’s more than a coincidense. I don’t know if this is typical of the Sidewinder line or Hawke in general, or restricted to the 8-32X model and I’m not knocking or calling the scope junk, but it just doesn’t seem worth the usual going price.

I did not get the oppurtinty to check the scopes for repeatablity or accurate adjustments as they just didn’t make it that far.

Months of saving nickels and dimes into the optic fund finally allowed me to purchase a the desired Sidewinder. After very good reviews just about everywhere, I thought the optic to be a home run, but unfortunately, for me, turned into a strike out.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

At least you were able to get your money back. Unfortunately $400 and 32x scopes usually don't go together. At that price you have to be able to turn a blind eye to some down falls. Sucks but that seems to be the way it is. The other people who have reviewed them probably weren't as knowledgable and weren't able to see it's downfalls.

Good news is at that price you can get a good scope. But you will have to comprise on magnification. If you want the high mag for shooting groups, try shooting groups with your scopes at different settings. You'll find how much magnification you really have to have. I believe more is better but you have to be able to see the target too.

Personally I hate fancy packaging. Rather see them put the money in the product not the packaging.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

I have some friends that are Field Target air rifle shooters that own some Hawk scopes. Well actually some friends that are centerfire shooters too that own these scopes. Too me Hawk scopes are 1 step up from a Centerpoint.

I don't like them, the friends are GTG, LOL.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

Were you planning on mounting it on a 22?

I usually despise cheap scopes but I don't want to put expensive scopes on all my rifles. So I ended up buying a BSA tactical 4-14 FFP for $250 from Midway to put on my 33 ftlb PCP air rifle. So far I'm glad I did. I love FFP scopes. I'd rather have this BSA than a bunch of more expensive SFP scopes I was considering before. It tracked well to approx 150Y which was 8 mils.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

steve,

actually the first sidewinder i got on sale for 347.00, and was looking for something in that $350.00 range, but liked the scope's features enough to go spend another 100.00 if the second one didn't have that focusing problem. so now i'm back to the 350.00 range.

yeah i was looking to mount the sidewinder to a .22 for 100 / 200 and 300 yard shooting first, then get one for the .308.

i have a huge PM going with a guy on the BSA tactical for 150.00, not the 4-14. i actually ordered the BSA 6-24 tactical, had sold something and then had funds for the sidewinder, so i sent the BSA back.

I've worn out many BSAs within 2-3 years on the .22 and am very skeptical of the brand, but thought i'd give the tactical a look. perhaps i should have held on to that as for 150.00 it stayed rather bright and clear up to 19X and still usable out to 24x for spotting hits, which is why i'm hooked on the higher magnifications. had really nice turrets on it too, well marked, solid clicks, seemingly better than the usual BSA. heck i could buy almost three of 'em for the price of the sidewinder, and just replace as i wear them out, if they get worn out.

thanks for the info on the 4-14, it's tough to admit it for fear of being flamed.


i've had a curse with finding the right scope for what i want to do (6-24 or 8-32, side focus, target style turrets, mildots) in the 350.00 or under range:

sightmark 8.5-25- very bad glass, scrathes, specs, blah.

centerpoint or leapers - discontinued the models i liked, actually pretty clear glass up to full power and surprisingly repeatable.

simmons 6-24 - wore one out, the replacement was damaged, had enough

sidewinder - as described above

speaking of the possibly getting flamed and next up, i ordered a Nikko stirling targetmaster 6-24 sf, should be here this afternoon, and hopefully at the range with it tomorrow.

i know i have to "give up" something in this price range, looking through a nikko at gander mtn on full power, i may not have to give up much.

if i can give up my addiction to SF, i think there is a vortex in my future if the nikko sucks. if i just can't get out of that side focus addiction, that BSA may be the pacifier until i come across something else.

if i had one scope "wish" is that nikon would do the buckmaster in 6-24 SF mildot. their 6-18 is excellent for the price range i'm looking, and has everything i'd like to have - except for just a little more magnification.


ACTUALLY AS I SIT HERE TYPING, THE BIG BROWN TRUCK PULLED UP.....

(will let ya know how this Nikko is).
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

I just got done returning a Hawke Sidewinder 30 scope that I owned for all of 30 minutes. The problem? The objective lens cap was seized on and could not be removed. Seriously, the f*cking lens cap was put on with red Loctite, or so it seemed. For those unfamiliar with these scopes, they come with threaded lens caps. Short of putting a pipe wrench to the cap, it wasn't coming off, unbelievable!

Besides that, I was not at all impressed with the fit and finish. The ocular lens was dusty/dirty right from the factory. The paint on the turrets/illumination knob was sloppy, etc. I've just ordered a Sightron SIII (made in Japan) to replace it. A long time ago I swore I would never skimp on optics by buying Chinese glass. I broke my own rule and it bit me in the ass. It's nothing but US/Japanese/German/Austrian optics for me from now on. I'll use iron sights before I make this kind of mistake again.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

I know we always want to find a deal on good optics but it those brands that are proven and known for their quality. I really have had great luck with Nikon buckmaster and their higher mag often come with target turrets and I have dialed the heck with zero issues. Midwayusa usually has a 6-18 with mil-dot for less than 350.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

My wife has a Nikko Sterling 10-50 on her USFT air rifle. It has very good glass. I'd say 90% Nightforce clarity. The thing is that it was at the time a $700 scope and the newer ones are about a grand if you can find one. We've been using it now for 4 years with 0 problems.

I have to brag on her a bit because she won our August match with a 39 out of 40. She's a shootin machine sometimes!

Too bad the Bushnell 4200 series 6-24/8-32x44 SFP scopes have such a dismal adjustment range because quality and clarity wise they are some of the best scopes out there for the money. They were part of the B&L target scope line years ago before Bushnell bought B&L. I had a friend who bought one of the newer 6-24x50 SFP scopes that after looking through my 6-24x44 wanted to trade me + cash right then. Nope wasn't gonna happen.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

These scopes are nice for the coin and the features you get, they do lack at the higher magnifications but up to a 20x power they are on par with any bushnell tactical or similar at double the price, the tactical line up has the smaller parallax ring, I own the 6.5-20 tactical, She is sweer for the coin
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

I have all pretty much upper endish glass. Mostly nightforce. But i have 2 rifles that doesnt get the better glass because of what they are there for. One is a busnell 10x and the other is a hawke. The bushnell has been a great bargain scope but fogged all the way up on me a few weeks ago shooting in the rain. The hawke is on my loaner rifle (savage) that is a very accurate rifle. I can see exactly what the op means about mushy turrets and milky glass but i just wanted to chime in to say that so far it has tracked well and always held a zero. Those are my two biggest needs in a scope. I dont get to worked over perfect glass but i dont want crap either. Tracking and zero are the two most important things in a scope. I am not saying its "great glass" by any means. Just wanted to give credit to the company for that. Will it hold up. Only time will tell.
 
Re: Hawke Sidewinder 30 8-32X 56mm review & problem?

basically they should have spent more on the scope than the packaging, thanx for the review, I will stay away from this nicely packaged crap.