Is LMT still putting out top notch rifles?

MJY65

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I've got an LMT LM8 ordered (since last summer) that should be getting close to production/delivery. With the current high demand and production pressures, should I have any concern about the quality of the work? A lot of us remember some pretty poor rifles and mags being made by a few companies at the time of the last ban and I'm hoping that wouldn't be the case here.

If anyone has received one of these rifles recently and could comment on the quality, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
Mike
 
Re: Current LMT production quality

Its LMT, why would you even ask such a silly question.

Have you seen any evidence that their quality control has gone down, or any indication it will?

Why don't you ask GAP or KAC if they are going to cut corners because that's what you are saying here.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CobraCutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its LMT, why would you even ask such a silly question.

Have you seen any evidence that their quality control has gone down, or any indication it will?

Why don't you ask GAP or KAC if they are going to cut corners because that's what you are saying here. </div></div>

I have no such evidence and didn't imply that I did. I simply wanted to get some feedback from individuals with recent experience. I'm glad to hear that LMT is maintaining high standards. There certainly have been plenty of reputable companies in the past that have not done so.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJY65</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CobraCutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its LMT, why would you even ask such a silly question.

Have you seen any evidence that their quality control has gone down, or any indication it will?

Why don't you ask GAP or KAC if they are going to cut corners because that's what you are saying here. </div></div>

I have no such evidence and didn't imply that I did. I simply wanted to get some feedback from individuals with recent experience. I'm glad to hear that LMT is maintaining high standards. There certainly have been plenty of reputable companies in the past that have not done so. </div></div>

Why do you even ask?

What reputable companies have "not done so"?

Sounds like your either drumming up hearsay or trying to bump post counts.

How about you wait until you get your rifle, go put 1000 rounds through it and if you have a problem, then ask the same question.
 
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LMT has been running their rifle production full bore for quite a while now.

I highly doubt anything has changed quality-wise with the current 'panic buying', etc.
 
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CobraCutter,

LMT is actually one of the companies that had QC issues for several years. In the beginning they were smaller, and made top notch stuff. They blew up big, escpecislly after getting several key military contracts. Their QC started to suffer for a few years on some of the BCG's and barrels if I remember correctly. However, their stuff has been back up to standard for the last few years, at least from my experience with it.

OP,

I wouldn't worry about it. I haven't heard anything for a few years regarding QC and their LM8 and MWS systems have all been top notch from what I've seen. Post pics when you get it, cause I'm jealous!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CobraCutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJY65</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CobraCutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its LMT, why would you even ask such a silly question.

Have you seen any evidence that their quality control has gone down, or any indication it will?

Why don't you ask GAP or KAC if they are going to cut corners because that's what you are saying here. </div></div>

I have no such evidence and didn't imply that I did. I simply wanted to get some feedback from individuals with recent experience. I'm glad to hear that LMT is maintaining high standards. There certainly have been plenty of reputable companies in the past that have not done so. </div></div>

Why do you even ask?

What reputable companies have "not done so"?

Sounds like your either drumming up hearsay or trying to bump post counts.

How about you wait until you get your rifle, go put 1000 rounds through it and if you have a problem, then ask the same question. </div></div>

CobraCutter,

I'm not sure what part of my question you find so offensive that you feel the need to respond in a hostile manner. I guess having nearly $3000 on the line for an unseen purchase always makes me a little concerned. Nothing specific to LMT or I wouldn't have ordered one in the first place.

As far as other companies slipping in quality, I think there are a fair number. When I started shooting ARs, everyone recommended buying one of the ABCs. Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt. They were considered the best. Now, I doubt that many would still include Bushmaster in that group.

Going back a bit further, Winchester was one of the most respected gunmakers in the US prior to 1964. A change in manufacturing standards and quality alienated an entire generation of gun buyers.

Once again, I am not implying anything about the current production at LMT. I don't know. That's why I asked.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJY65</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CobraCutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJY65</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CobraCutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its LMT, why would you even ask such a silly question.

Have you seen any evidence that their quality control has gone down, or any indication it will?

Why don't you ask GAP or KAC if they are going to cut corners because that's what you are saying here. </div></div>

I have no such evidence and didn't imply that I did. I simply wanted to get some feedback from individuals with recent experience. I'm glad to hear that LMT is maintaining high standards. There certainly have been plenty of reputable companies in the past that have not done so. </div></div>

Why do you even ask?

What reputable companies have "not done so"?

Sounds like your either drumming up hearsay or trying to bump post counts.

How about you wait until you get your rifle, go put 1000 rounds through it and if you have a problem, then ask the same question. </div></div>

CobraCutter,

I'm not sure what part of my question you find so offensive that you feel the need to respond in a hostile manner. I guess having nearly $3000 on the line for an unseen purchase always makes me a little concerned. Nothing specific to LMT or I wouldn't have ordered one in the first place.

As far as other companies slipping in quality, I think there are a fair number. When I started shooting ARs, everyone recommended buying one of the ABCs. Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt. They were considered the best. Now, I doubt that many would still include Bushmaster in that group.

Going back a bit further, Winchester was one of the most respected gunmakers in the US prior to 1964. A change in manufacturing standards and quality alienated an entire generation of gun buyers.

Once again, I am not implying anything about the current production at LMT. I don't know. That's why I asked. </div></div>

So my question is, Why are you blindly making $3000 purchases then coming around here trying to justify the purchase? Did you not research it before hand? Are you just bored? Simple research and use of the search feature on this site or even google would tell you what you need to know.

Unless you have reason to belive that LMT is putting out substandard product, you are drumming up unneeded alarm. I know there are alot of new people to the shooting industry due to recent events, but please do your research.

FYI, There is nothing wrong with Armalite, Bushmaster or Colt. IN fact, colt is the standard. Armalite makes a nice rifle and Bushmaster is fine as long as you aren't running them too hard. For the money however, there is no need to buy Arma or Bushmaster, as companies like BCM/KAC/DD/LMT/Colt all make a better product around the same price.

I hunt with a post 64 winchester 70 everyear. Doesn't seem to have any problem killing deer. Changing manufacturing techniques and putting out broken or malfunctioning products is apples to space shuttles.

I go back to my origonal statement. Feel free to go ask George Gardner if he is cutting corners because of his Year+ backlog of rifles. Your doing the same thing to a manufacture that is proven to be one of the best in the game.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CobraCutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So my question is, Why are you blindly making $3000 purchases then coming around here trying to justify the purchase? <span style="font-weight: bold">I'm not trying to justify anything. </span>Did you not research it before hand? <span style="font-weight: bold"> I researched the heck out of it on this and other websites before placing the order. I was hoping for some updated information.</span> Are you just bored? <span style="font-weight: bold">Not bored</span> Simple research and use of the search feature on this site or even google would tell you what you need to know. <span style="font-weight: bold">Plenty of information about purchases made over the past few years, not so much about the last two months.</span>

Unless you have reason to belive that LMT is putting out substandard product, you are drumming up unneeded alarm. <span style="font-weight: bold">Not sure how asking a question could cause alarm.</span> I know there are alot of new people to the shooting industry due to recent events, but please do your research. <span style="font-weight: bold">You're right. I've only got 40 years of shooting experience.</span>

FYI, There is nothing wrong with Armalite, Bushmaster or Colt. IN fact, colt is the standard. <span style="font-weight: bold">I agree that Colt is very good. I have a 6920. My comment was regarding how some companies, like Bushmaster fall in and out of favor. </span>Armalite makes a nice rifle and Bushmaster is fine as long as you aren't running them too hard. For the money however, there is no need to buy Arma or Bushmaster, as companies like BCM/KAC/DD/LMT/Colt all make a better product around the same price.

I hunt with a post 64 winchester 70 everyear. Doesn't seem to have any problem killing deer. Changing manufacturing techniques and putting out broken or malfunctioning products is apples to space shuttles. <span style="font-weight: bold">I think you would find a fair number of gun owners who were disappointed with the quality of the early post 64 Winchesters. They seem to be better now.</span>

I go back to my origonal statement. Feel free to go ask George Gardner if he is cutting corners because of his Year+ backlog of rifles. Your doing the same thing to a manufacture that is proven to be one of the best in the game. <span style="font-weight: bold">I have no idea what GAP or KAC have to do with it and the backlog is not the issue. I never complained about the 8 months I've been waiting.</span>






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If you researched the heck out of it, and have heard no reports of there being and issues.... then why even make the thread?

The point is your assuming and asking if one of the best gun companies in existence, has QC issues. If you had any idea the type of testing and R&D that goes on at Lewis, then you wouldn't need to ask. Any company can put out a lemon, as all mechanical devises can fail. LMT is about the last one you have to worry about.

The point is would you order a GAP or a KAC and come here and ask if they are slipping in QC. Your original post:". With the current high demand and production pressures, should I have any concern about the quality of the work? A lot of us remember some pretty poor rifles and mags being made by a few companies at the time of the last ban and I'm hoping that wouldn't be the case here" aluded to the backlog, IE "high demand and production pressures". That is what is has to do with.

Maybe this would have been a prudent question to research before you made a purchase. Had you done the due dillegence, you would have quickly found that there is very little complaints with LMT's products (other than price and availibility). The company has contracts with Navy/USSOC/British Military for christ sakes. What do you think they are going to buy?
 
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OP, I've been down this road once today with him, he even told me I wasn't getting it, when I clearly agreed with him but wanted him to PROVE the point he was trying make. He will argue as long as you do. He claimed earlier I was one of those people that argue and believe my opinion is the only thing that's right, except he does the exact same thing.

Watch this, he will in some form or fashion rebuttal this or at least comment, he's one of those. Just let him make a name for himself, he'll hang himself sooner or later around here.
 
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OP,I can kinda see the point cobracutter is making,your thread title "current LMT production quality" is a bit misleading and sparked my attention.The first thing I thought was what has happened with LMT?
You explained yourself well,but kind of unfair to LMT's reputation.
Gossip can travel these days is all I'm really getting at.
Nothing personal,and no sense in picking a fight/lecture,just how I first reacted to the thread title.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Overwatcher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OP,I can kinda see the point cobracutter is making,your thread title "current LMT production quality" is a bit misleading and sparked my attention.The first thing I thought was what has happened with LMT?
You explained yourself well,but kind of unfair to LMT's reputation.
Gossip can travel these days is all I'm really getting at.
Nothing personal,and no sense in picking a fight/lecture,just how I first reacted to the thread title.
OW



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Fair enough. Title changed.