Rifle Scopes Steiner question

[Sako man]

I have the Steiner 25x with MSR. Great glass and excellent tracking. I can't for the life of me tell the difference in glass resolution from my premier 25x and interestingly enough but the body, tube, size, pretty much everything is the same as the premier. I have heard that parts of the Premier are made in Germany.

So here is the question, do these two optics share the same components, glass, etc.. are they the same optic?

if so this is not a bad thing as the Premier has been one if not the best piece of glass I have looked through.

 

[hk dave]

No. Stupid as minimum 10 character requirement.

NO.

 

[Geronimo]

Any comparisons of the steiner to an s&b? haven't came up with anything in the searches comparing them head to head, I would love a scope with the msr but it can only be one so am trying to find the best choice with the best price lol well just found the jasonk write up thru google lol nm

 

[John1911.com]

I am certainly not an optics expert. I have run S&B for a number of years. I recently had a chance to pickup a Steiner 5-25 Mil-Dot. So far, I am thoroughly impressed. So much so, I had a chance on 5-25 Steiner MSR version and snatched it up as well.

I'm not sure what the cool kids think of Steiner, but my initial impressions were so positive I just couldn't pass up these two deals.

But in all honestly, I haven't put 1000 rounds under one yet. So I'll let you know in a year or so if they fall apart or not. I suspect not or I wouldn't have purchased.

I like the MTC clicks, and the double-turn ring on the S&B better. But I wonder if that is more just me being "used" to something.

I just can't help but feel that Steiner is undercutting their prices to penetrate the American Market? High-quality German glass at the street prices I'm seeing, Holy Smokes.

But I can only speak on the 5-25's. I hear the lower power optics are made in the USA? Bushnell?

TTR

 

[Sako man]

Steiner Vs. SnB

Any comparisons of the steiner to an s&b? haven't came up with anything in the searches comparing them head to head, I would love a scope with the msr but it can only be one so am trying to find the best choice with the best price lol well just found the jasonk write up thru google lol nm

I wrote one a while back right after using my Steiner and my friends 25x SnB. I actually preferred the Steiner as it did not tunnel at extreme magnification. But looking at the same rocks 500 to 600 yards away I could see equal resolution details and colors. So glass is very equal. My only gripe would be at high mag the Steiner MSR reticle has some little burrs or hairs on the reticle itself. But I really think your going to be on equal footing with the high end Premier, Steiner, SnB. When ever I shoot out past 1000 the extra magnification is necessary for spotting my own hits so great glass is crucial.

The new optic to look at would be the Khales 25x, I hear really good things.

Bottom line best glass I have looked through was actually a Hensholt but not enough magnification for me.

Not sure what the $500 extra for the SnB gets you tho?

 

[Steiner Optics]

I hear the lower power optics are made in the USA? Bushnell?

TTR

Bushnell? No. Not at all. The scopes with the 4x erector system are made in the US. The 5x systems are made in Germany at the Steiner factory.

Our scopes are not that same optic as the Premiere.

 

[John1911.com]

Bushnell? No. Not at all. The scopes with the 4x erector system are made in the US. The 5x systems are made in Germany at the Steiner factory.

Our scopes are not that same optic as the Premiere.

OK. Good to know. We have been very impressed so far. Putting the MSR on a work rifle this week. We will me posting reviews and updates.

TTR

 

[BigJim375]

What is the difference between the tactical 4-16X model and the military 3-15X? Other than the option for MSR reticle.

 

[TheJ]

I know for a fact that Burris houses (or did until a couple months ago if they happened to move) some of the US operations for Steiner. Not sure if any scopes are there. I might have heard it was the Bino's last time I was up at the Burris plant, but that could be my bad memory too.

From what an inside source told me, the lenses, etc are all still Steiner original, just assembled here in the US.

 

[Redmanss]

What is the difference between the tactical 4-16X model and the military 3-15X? Other than the option for MSR reticle.

The 3-15x has the same style elevation turret as the 5-25, in addition to the 5x erector assembly.

 

[CSTactical]

Steiner are great scopes I have been really happy with the quality and the features. I have been really liking there 3-15x50mm the size and the out put is outstanding.

We stock Steiner Scopes so if we can be of help let us know.

Mike CST

 

[BigJim375]

So, the 4-16x tactical are made in the US and the 3-15x military are made in Germany.

 

[gebhardt02]

My 3-15X50 is marked "Made in Germany" if that helps anything.

Geb

 

[Falsecrack]

Are the ones made wholly in Germany, harder to get serviced?

 

[BigJim375]

My 3-15X50 is marked "Made in Germany" if that helps anything.

Geb

It does, thank you.

 

[John1911.com]

Are the ones made wholly in Germany, harder to get serviced?

I don't know the answer for sure but I would guess not. More and more European optics companies have opened up a US service center. It would appear Steiner is the same. My guess.

TTR

P.S. I still think Steiner is lowballing their prices to penetrate the US market.

 

[CSTactical]

They can be serviced here in the use.

I will be testing out a Steiner 3-15x50mm with the MSR myself.

Mike @ CSTACTICAL

 

[Steiner Optics]

Are the ones made wholly in Germany, harder to get serviced?

No they aren't. We are servicing them here in the US.

 

[BigJim375]

If I ever sell this vortex razor I would be happy to pick one up from you mike@ CST

 

[CSTactical]

If I ever sell this vortex razor I would be happy to pick one up from you mike@ CST

Thanks for the recommendation!

Mike @ CSTACTICAL.

 

[sulcop96]

Mike I am in the same boat, lol, I have a Howa 1500/XLR for sale here on the site and is being sold to fund the Steiner I'm getting from you the day it sells. So you know anyone who wants a Howa 1500.............

Sully