Suppressors New 7" and 5" cans from Thunder Beast Arms

[Zak Smith]

We're happy to announce three new suppressors, the 30PS, 30BAS, and the 30PSS. These are the "short" models that we showed off at the 2013 SHOT Show. These cans are available for ordering now and are in the regular production schedule (which is presently 6-10 weeks behind depending on model). Many dealers already have some of these on order.

Here's the rundown on specs and applications:

30PS- The seven inch "Short" version of our flagship 30P-1 suppressor. It is two inches shorter and 2.5 ounces lighter than the 30P-1. It only gives up approximately 2-3 dB suppression for a noticeably smaller and lighter format. The construction and materials are the same as the 30P-1. Thunder Beast Arms Corporation [TBAC] | Products | 30PS

30BAS- The seven-inch "Short" version of our brake-attach 30BA suppressor. It is two inches shorter and three ounces lighter than the 30BA. It only gives up approximately 2-3 dB suppression for a noticeably smaller and lighter format. The 30BAS is designed to mount over our muzzle brake. Thunder Beast Arms Corporation [TBAC] | Products | 30BAS

The 30PS and 30BAS are well suited to all the same cartridges and applications as the 30P-1 and 30BA, but give the user a lighter and more compact format in trade for just a few dB of suppression. The 30BAS mounts to the exact same mounts as the 30BA suppressor.


30PSS- The model 30PSS is an extremely compact moderator intended primarily for for subsonic .30 caliber loads. It is also a good choice when the most important priority is adding the absolute minimum length and weight to the rifle while still significantly moderating the muzzle report. Compared to our flagship 30P-1, it is about half the weight (9.9 oz), four inches shorter, and approximately 10 dB louder when using full power .308 ammunition. Thunder Beast Arms Corporation [TBAC] | Products | 30PSS

The 30PSS is perfect for a dedicated .300 Blackout or .300 Whisper upper for shooting subsonic ammunition when minimum size is a strong requirement.

 

[bohem]

Very cool offerings, Zak.

Are you going to be offering something in a 22 caliber center-fire offering like these?

 

[Zak Smith]

Our .223 cans are about 7" already. We're still looking into if we can go shorter and get acceptable performance for 5.56

 

[MSTN]

The 30PSS sounds just exactly like what the world needs for a full time suppressed .300 BLK.

 

[Zak Smith]

A 10" SBR upper with the 30PSS on it is shorter than an M4 upper.

 

[KYS]

When do you anticipate the 30 cal models to be ready to ship to dealers? The 30PS and 30BAS to be specific.

 

[Zak Smith]

We're looking at a 6-9 week backlog on cans already ordered right now. Form 3's are taking over 70 days too.

 

[bunsen27]

This is likely the only time I'll ever be envious of something less than 10 inches in length. Great looking products Zak!! I'm anxiously awaiting the tax stamp for my TBAC 30P-1.

 

[TexasGunTrustLawyer]

On a subsonic 300blk, what will the 30pss sound like compared to the 30p-1?

 

[Zak Smith]

Louder. We found it acceptable for use with sub loads in an AR-15 SBR. It's on the small/light extreme end of the spectrum.

The 30PS & 30BAS give up "just a little bit" of suppression for their smaller size and weight. The 30PSS takes it to the extreme for when you want it really short.

 

[chainring]

Very cool. While I'm glad my 30BA is pending now, I wish I could sign up for a shorty!

 

[bone collector]

Really cool stuff Zak! looks like its time to start the presses to get another TBAC can, 30PS seems to be just right for what I am looing for.

 

[MSTN]

Here's an 8.2" Noveske .300 BLK barrel:

Imagine only adding 4 3/8" to the overall length with the 30PSS.

 

[dogman]

Will these new short suppressors support light to moderate use on a 7.5" barreled 6.8 SPC? My Noveske Diplomat is begging for a suppressor and I must not disappoint it.

 

[Zak Smith]

Hi,

We have not tested these with the 6.8 SPC in SBR's. Based on some pressure curve numbers I have, I would say moderate use on a 12" would be fine, but the pressure is a lot higher at 8".

 

[dogman]

Thanks for the info. I would even lean the requirement to light use...truck gun or defensive use. I have enough carbines to train with.

 

[RangerWalker71]

Thanks for another Great product. Can't wait to get mine.

Running a GB.
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting/snipers-hide-px-group-buys/198321-tbac-30ps-30pss-group-buy.html

 

[sigsauer_pdx]

Is the 30BAS the suppressor the same as the 30HD? As I recall it was supposed to handle regular use on a 5.56 as well without concerns of overheating.

 

[Zak Smith]

No, the BAS is not the HD.

 

[TacT-MecH]

Zak, is there any videos of these in use. Or more pictures. I am really interested in a PSs for my sbr.

 

[Zak Smith]

We're working on it.

 

[beenjammin]

Any pic on a rifle by chance?

 

[Zak Smith]

I think what we have on the web site is it. Some more here
TBAC-S

 

[346ci]

Zak, you think the 30PSS would be fine on a 12.5" 6.8? It would be used for hunting, not any long strings of fire or mag dumps...

 

[Zak Smith]

Yes, should be fine. Keep in mind supersonic loads will not be super quiet with the 30PSS. Using .308 match loads the 30PSS is approx 10 dB louder than a 30P-1. It is really designed for subsonic .300 blackout/whisper. If that suppression level is OK, it will be a very compact can on your 6.8

 

[jonaddis84]

Has anyone besides me contemplated the pss as an alternative to running a brake on say a creedmoor match rifle? I guess if I was an unlucky sob that still pays tax stamps maybe I would think differently. I was all about the PS to replace my P1 for match use, just not sure it's a big enough difference to warrant the change. For some reason before the release I thought the PS was going to be a much bigger difference in weight from the P1. I'm already wearing hearing protection anyway, that 4.5" and ultra lightweight just sounds sexy for a match gun...

Decision decisions

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[Zak Smith]

That's not a bad idea if you're going to be wearing some earpro anyway

 

[exd3686]

Zak,

At Shot 2013, I asked about a 300BLK suppressor and you mentioned something was on the way. Looks like this is it. What would be your suggestion (PS or PSS) for a hearing safe in 300BLK supersonic yet uber-quiet 300BLK sub-sonic on an 8" AR upper? I can always mount my 30P1 but would like a shorter can.

Thanks for the great products!
exd3686

 

[Zak Smith]

The 7" 30PS would be my choice. It will be super short and very quiet. If you want the quietest the 30P-1 will be it.

 

[1slow01z71]

How well do these stay tight on an AR? Im specifically interested in the PSS for my sbr 300blk but the muzzle is inside the handguard so I cant use the ole teflon tape trick. Ive been using my yhm ti qd with the spring load tension ring so its worked well but I'd like to shorten up the package and really only worried about subsonic suppression performance. Any db testing? Id like to know how it stacks up to my current can before I drop a grand on a dedicated can for a single gun.

 

[Zak Smith]

In our experience if the muzzle threads are good and you get it as tight as you can with one hand, it shouldn't come loose unless you go crazy with the firing volume.

 

[bribri]

I'm debating on the 30BA vs the 30BAS. Is the 2 to 3 db louder that noticeable to the human ear?

 

[Zak Smith]

2-3 dB is typically about the minimum amount you can tell by ear, if the tone is the same. I'd say you can notice it's louder, but it's not very much louder.

 

[kala_azar]

Zak, can your BA muzzle devices be permanently attached to make a 16" AR barrel? Or would they even be long enough...

Thinking hard on a 30BAS as my multi-host AR can, but I have several non SBR uppers with 14.5 barrels.

Thanks, and btw everyone wants a TBAC can after seeing/hearing my 30P-1!

 

[jonaddis84]

Not long enough for a 14.5", but they could theoretically be permanently attached.

Looks like it's time to register a lower

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[kala_azar]

I've got two registered SBRs but almost all of my "standard" uppers are perm'd 14.5s! Bummer!

 

[texag0842]

Placed a order for a 30PS at the local gun show,

Looking forward to it Zak.

 

[DocGlenn]

Zak,
Would it be safe to shoot the 30 BAS on an .308 with an 18" barrel w/o hearing protection and would it also be safe on a 7wsm w/o hearing protection. I'd love to get one can for both rifles and have them both be "hearing safe". Thanks for the info!
Glenn

 

[varmint slayer]

Zak,
Would it be safe to shoot the 30 BAS on an .308 with an 18" barrel w/o hearing protection and would it also be safe on a 7wsm w/o hearing protection. I'd love to get one can for both rifles and have them both be "hearing safe". Thanks for the info!
Glenn

No supersonic load is "hearing safe" even through a can. Will it "feel" better on the ears? Yes but it is still doing damage. Ear protection is still recommended even with a can.

 

[DocGlenn]

10-4. That makes sense. I appreciate the info. Thanks!

 

[Zak Smith]

What varmint slayer said.

Thanks!

 

[Da Shooter]

Zak , I pulled the trigger on the 30PS thur Colonial Armory. Thanks for offering the discounts.

 

[1slow01z71]

Decisions, decisions. Leaning more towards the 30ps now since I really want it to be very quiet.

 

[santee116]

Zak, any chance we can get some videos of shooting the 5" and 7" compared side by side to the full size?

That would be very helpful in deciding.

 

[MikeD987]

Zak,

I ordered my 30BA a few months ago still waiting for my stamped is there a way I can send it back when I get it to have it upgraded to the 30BAS. =p

 

[346ci]

Zak, any plans for a 30PSS cover?

Fixing to send in my form 4 for mine!!

Thanks

 

[Zak Smith]

Yes.......

 

[346ci]

Zak, could you please post the actual dimensions of the PSS? I believe the diameter is the same as my 30p-1 but wanted to confirm the length. Thanks

 

[KYS]

Zak,

I ordered my 30BA a few months ago still waiting for my stamped is there a way I can send it back when I get it to have it upgraded to the 30BAS. =p

That's not possible as you would be altering the tubes registered length.

 

[Zak Smith]

It's 5" long