And here comes the Special Counsel...

sirhrmechanic

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Which, honestly, I have no problem with. Let's look at the whole picture....

Democrat congressman sexting teenagers... Hillary selling uranium.... Lynch meeting Clinton on a plane.. Soros... leaks... Let's have a special prosecutor. Let's do this. Let's really go there!

If Trump is dirty... well, I'll be shocked. But let Mueller run with this.

But let's have a special prosecutor really go after the swamp!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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Which, honestly, I have no problem with. Let's look at the whole picture....

Democrat congressman sexting teenagers... Hillary selling uranium.... Lynch meeting Clinton on a plane.. Soros... leaks... Let's have a special prosecutor. Let's do this. Let's really go there!

If Trump is dirty... well, I'll be shocked. But let Mueller run with this.

But let's have a special prosecutor really go after the swamp!

Cheers,

Sirhr

As far as can tell theyre all dirty t one level or another. Blind lead the blind and all fall in the ditch.
 
Couldn't agree more, as long as he investigates all the bullshit! Obama included as well. If the dems get what they want, are we going to let them make sure our votes don't matter is the big question.
 
Yep, lets add it all up and see who comes out smelling like a rose. And can somebody please tell John Mcain to STFU. There is absolutely no grounds to get Trump on any charges, let alone comparing this to Watergate. What retarded shit.

meanwhile NK is applying for a patent with the UN to manufacture nerve gas, or some such shit.
 
IMHO, I think this is the greatest thing to happen yet. I'm trying, I'm really trying to ignore the news for right now so I can keep my BP manageable. I would like to think that Mr. Trump is not as naive as everyone in the news makes him out to be. He might be playing them like a fiddle again by getting the request for a special counsel, if they can expose the dirt around the 'Russians'. Trump is so new to this, he might not have any dirt on him yet. All the other 'servants' have been at this for so long, none of them can possibly be clean. Maybe this is exactly what we need to either drain the swamp, or burn it to the water line.
 
Which, honestly, I have no problem with. Let's look at the whole picture....

Democrat congressman sexting teenagers... Hillary selling uranium.... Lynch meeting Clinton on a plane.. Soros... leaks... Let's have a special prosecutor. Let's do this. Let's really go there!

If Trump is dirty... well, I'll be shocked. But let Mueller run with this.

But let's have a special prosecutor really go after the swamp!

Cheers,

Sirhr

I hope this works out, but Mueller is playing on a level where his family and friends could be put at risk.
 
The Left screaming for a special counsel was not meant to happen. They figured it was something to scream about that would never happen. Well they got their wish. They will soon remember the saying "be Careful what you ask for". Notice how quiet the left has gone.

Trump could not give the evidence from his wiretapping tweet to Sessions because he is recused. Once the new asst. AG came in Trump fired Comey gave the Asst AG the evidence and the snowball left the summit. The Asst AG said the best way to deal with this is a Special Counsel. Trump was not happy but was understanding of the reasons. They may go where ever the investigation takes them. Which we all are pretty sure goes right to the desk of Barack Obama. I think in a few months more or less we will see the Special Counsel clear Trump. Then before the 2018 Elections the Indictments will start coming in.

This is going places we have never been and the depth of the corruption will be immense. If I were Hillary and Associates I would be worried. If I were Obama I would keep going on the 400k speeches for legal fees. I I were anyone Left or Right in Congress that is involved in any way. I would be very worried. JMHO
 
In Comey's testimony on May 3, 2017, he was asked if anyone in the leadership at the DOJ had asked the FBI to stop an investigation.
While the question was specific to the DOJ, his answer sounded more broad and encompassing. It's hard to imagine that if Donald Trump, Chief Executive Officer of the United States of America, has asked him to back away from an investigation that he would not have mentioned it in this testimony.

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If this special counsel reveals no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and I doubt it will, it will be another nail in the political coffin of the Democrats.
Icing on the cake would be if the investigation further reveals the crimes committed by Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and collusion in the media to the point that some charges can be filed.

The media is fucking joke with all of this.

Two stories:

1. An unnamed source said there was a memo in which Comey detailed Trump's asking him to lay off Flynn. Originating from the New York Times, the story was blasted all over NBC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, PBS, and all other leftist controlled outlets. Fox also covered the news.

2. An unnamed source said that murdered (no robbery) DNC staffer Seth Rich was the person who gave the treasure trove of damning DNC emails to Wikileaks. Fox ran the story as is, on face value. The others? They talked about it, but only to point out how it has no merit and how you can't just run with something an unnamed source puts out there.

Burn it all down.
 
Who would have copies of those communications between Rich and wiki? Besides Seth that is? Julian Assange would right. Well it is very convenient that the rape charges were just dropped against him. I am sure the Conspiracy theorist will have a field day with this.

If this goes as I think it will. The Dems and Members of the Press will both be implicated in this mess. Some Repubs will also go down.
 
Who would have copies of those communications between Rich and wiki? Besides Seth that is?

http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/seth-r...-death-murder/

Fox News is reporting that an anonymous federal investigator claims to have seen thousands of emails transferred from murdered DNC analyst Seth Rich to WikiLeaks’ ally Gavin MacFadyen.

You can read the rest of it via the link.

MacFadyen is dead too. Lung cancer last October. But if evidence exists, he and Assange would have it.
 
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If this special counsel reveals no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and I doubt it will, it will be another nail in the political coffin of the Democrats.
Icing on the cake would be if the investigation further reveals the crimes committed by Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and collusion in the media to the point that some charges can be filed.

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The thing that worries me is how long and hard they have been pushing this collusion, its almost like they put something there to find. Perhaps a contingency plan if the election fraud did not work.
 
Wow.

Perhaps a bit far?

The whole point of a pardon is to excuse a misdeed that was otherwise unlawful. So to answer your question, no. It's not going too far. It's a factual statement, and evidence exists that could have been used to bring charges against McCain.

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That said, let's not get this thread off track with more of your vast knowledge and flowery opinions about John McCain. Besides, there's a poll that I'm sure will tell you all you want to know.
 
We've all got front row seats to the 'swamp', in all its mudslinging glory...
This is "große Lüge", Goebbels propaganda 101. Tell a 'big lie' often enough that people will begin to believe it...

We must stay the course.
The Truth in on our side!
We must strive and continue to repeat FACTS, and not get into mudslinging.

Comey is "on record" from his 5/3/17 testimony that he did not believe there was any interference to investigations. If he did, that would have been the PERFECT time to hang Pres.Trump out to dry.

Clapper is "on record" for stating NO credible evidence of collusion.

McCabe is "on record" for stating NO credible evidence of collusion.

Let the dems have their witchhunt, just keep pounding the FACTS down their throats.

How can comey's 'memo' amount to schit, when the FACT that his sworn testimony on 5/3 refutes it?

FACTS, guys...




 
McCain has leveraged his "heroism" into a career of sponging off the American taxpayer. He is the poster child for the swamp.

McCain should have been shit canned for being part of the S&L scandal but that only affected seniors and people like us so he was able to use his "hero" status to save his skin.

Im getting tired of his sanctimonious bib boobed daughter too.
 
We've all got front row seats to the 'swamp', in all its mudslinging glory...
This is "große Lüge", Goebbels propaganda 101. Tell a 'big lie' often enough that people will begin to believe it...

We must stay the course.
The Truth in on our side!
We must strive and continue to repeat FACTS, and not get into mudslinging.

Comey is "on record" from his 5/3/17 testimony that he did not believe there was any interference to investigations. If he did, that would have been the PERFECT time to hang Pres.Trump out to dry.

Clapper is "on record" for stating NO credible evidence of collusion.

McCabe is "on record" for stating NO credible evidence of collusion.

Let the dems have their witchhunt, just keep pounding the FACTS down their throats.

How can comey's 'memo' amount to schit, when the FACT that his sworn testimony on 5/3 refutes it?

FACTS, guys...

Clapper perjured himself when testifying, on TV, about metadata while under oath yet we are supposed to believe him now.

Well I do believe him about "no collusion" its just all the other BS that falls from his lips that should be discounted.
 
If Mueller is legit this could go like the Stein recount and start to expose stuff the Dems don't want to expose. Lets hope he has the sack to follow through.

He was a Marine in VN, doesn't guarantee honor, but at least he should no what it looks like.
 
The Democrats will take all the rope you give them... Keep feeding them the rope....

McCain is my Senator. Nobody's perfect, maybe him especially, but you guys didn't have to pick between him and the also-rans. They were doozies, and I'm being far too kind... It's like choosing between two schitz sandwiches...

Like a lot of states, the power here in Arizona resides (so far, only partly) in the cities. So far, we can still elect Republicans, and for the time being, that may have to be enough. But when we take our dumps on the ones we can elect, all we're really doing is greasing the ways for a Democratic Senate.

Hint, the Senate confirms the SCOTUS nominees.... Eyes on the prize, people...

So sure, take your dumps on McCain. You can recognize a failed society by the way it increasingly subdivides itself into identity politics. When we dump on our own, we cut our own throats. So here. have a knife; you're all already primed for the cutting.

When all your friends have to agree with you completely, you have no friends. When I see the way you folks treat my friends (even the faint ones), I see how maybe you guys are trying really hard not to be mine. ...Or even your own...

Get your heads back on straight, people.

Greg
 
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So here's a neat twist.
Hardcore liberal legal scholar, Alan Dershowitz, is saying, "How can you have a special prosecutor when no crime has been comitted?​​​​​​"

No statue has been violated, and if the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, that's still not a crime. He was just on Tucker Carlson with that gem.
 
Greg, in the first place god bless you. You are right straight down the line, except for one thing. It's not that we don't want McCain for a friend, it's that he won't have us for friends. As a navy vet I'll tell you that in 1967 their was a fire on the USS Forrestal that cost the lives of 134 sailors and injured 160 more. The fire started when a plane on the flight deck launched a missle and hit other planes in the process of refueling and rearming. 500 pound bombs were set off, and the ends were blown off the refueling hoses. Their were holes blown into the flight deck above a berthing compartment where men were sleeping. The ruptured fuel lines pumped thousands of pounds of burning fuel into that compartment of sleeping men. Triva question: Whose plane launched the missle that started the conflagration.

But your right McCain would likely have been a better president than B.O. and so I held my nose and voted for him while I prayed to god that someday I would have a better candidate to vote for. So now that we have elected the better candidate, it sucks to see McMissle trying to tear him down.
 
So here's a neat twist.
Hardcore liberal legal scholar, Alan Dershowitz, is saying, "How can you have a special prosecutor when no crime has been comitted?​​​​​​"

No statue has been violated, and if the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, that's still not a crime. He was just on Tucker Carlson with that gem.

Perhaps wire tapping the Trump campaign is a crime, perhaps President Trump will redirect the SC, to an area where he can find some people to send to jail.
 
Yes ,Yes, The man who has built multiple business, made more money than all of us combined, married a super model, and became the President of the United States, probably isn't that good at games..... {shouldn't need an imogi to sense my sarcasm}

Ok, so rub it in that I haven't been President of the United states... and I don't quite make as much as all of us combined.. well I've WORKED at multiple businesses, but at least I'm married to a super model. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
When all your friends have to agree with you completely, you have no friends. When I see the way you folks treat my friends (even the faint ones), I see how maybe you guys are trying really hard not to be mine. ...Or even your own...

Get your heads back on straight, people.

Greg

Geez, Greg. So we can't call a spade a spade now? It's not us who left McCain. It's the other way around. Why would you not see that? I was a strong supporter of his in 2008. He betrayed us then (by refusing to take the fight to the opposition after gaining the nomination), and has done nothing but subvert our cause ever since. I understand your point about you having to choose the lesser of two evils, but he's lately taken to going out of his way to be more "evil". And you somehow see calling it what it is as trying not to be your friend?
 
So here's a neat twist.
Hardcore liberal legal scholar, Alan Dershowitz, is saying, "How can you have a special prosecutor when no crime has been comitted?​​​​​​"

No statue has been violated, and if the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, that's still not a crime. He was just on Tucker Carlson with that gem.

I saw that. What he said was, essentially, even if everything that he has been accused of were completely true, no law has been broken. Tucker was stupefied, and admitted that in 6 months of covering this, he had never even considered that.

But, I don't think that's the end game. I think the Dems know that there is no law broken that we know of. I think the whole thing is a fishing trip to see if the investigation can uncover something, anything else they can use against him.
 
McCain has leveraged his "heroism" into a career of sponging off the American taxpayer. He is the poster child for the swamp.

This^^^
I think we have covered McCain in many threads.
If we don't hold our team to any standard what can we expect.
Voting for the lesser of two evils happens.
Once in office they have to be held to campaign promises and high standards.
Getting rid of Sheriff Joe is telling.

R
 
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So here's a neat twist.
Hardcore liberal legal scholar, Alan Dershowitz, is saying, "How can you have a special prosecutor when no crime has been comitted?​​​​​​"

No statue has been violated, and if the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, that's still not a crime. He was just on Tucker Carlson with that gem.

That's an excellent point. Here's another. Say he did coordinate with the Russians to expose Hillary. Even if it was a crime...is it worse than the mountains of shit about her that was exposed?

Friggin Dems don't look at anything past what's right in front of their nose
 
The Democrats will take all the rope you give them... Keep feeding them the rope....

McCain is my Senator. Nobody's perfect, maybe him especially, but you guys didn't have to pick between him and the also-rans. They were doozies, and I'm being far too kind... It's like choosing between two schitz sandwiches...

Like a lot of states, the power here in Arizona resides (so far, only partly) in the cities. So far, we can still elect Republicans, and for the time being, that may have to be enough. But when we take our dumps on the ones we can elect, all we're really doing is greasing the ways for a Democratic Senate.

Hint, the Senate confirms the SCOTUS nominees.... Eyes on the prize, people...

So sure, take your dumps on McCain. You can recognize a failed society by the way it increasingly subdivides itself into identity politics. When we dump on our own, we cut our own throats. So here. have a knife; you're all already primed for the cutting.

When all your friends have to agree with you completely, you have no friends. When I see the way you folks treat my friends (even the faint ones), I see how maybe you guys are trying really hard not to be mine. ...Or even your own...

Get your heads back on straight, people.

Greg

When McCain takes your advice Ill think better of him.
 
Greg, in the first place god bless you. You are right straight down the line, except for one thing. It's not that we don't want McCain for a friend, it's that he won't have us for friends. As a navy vet I'll tell you that in 1967 their was a fire on the USS Forrestal that cost the lives of 134 sailors and injured 160 more. The fire started when a plane on the flight deck launched a missle and hit other planes in the process of refueling and rearming. 500 pound bombs were set off, and the ends were blown off the refueling hoses. Their were holes blown into the flight deck above a berthing compartment where men were sleeping. The ruptured fuel lines pumped thousands of pounds of burning fuel into that compartment of sleeping men. Triva question: Whose plane launched the missle that started the conflagration.

But your right McCain would likely have been a better president than B.O. and so I held my nose and voted for him while I prayed to god that someday I would have a better candidate to vote for. So now that we have elected the better candidate, it sucks to see McMissle trying to tear him down.

How about when he was hot dogging in Spain and took down power lines with his plane. Didn't he crash in flight school? He had something like three American Aircraft kills painted on the side of his cockpit when he retired.
 
Geez, Greg. So we can't call a spade a spade now? It's not us who left McCain. It's the other way around. Why would you not see that? I was a strong supporter of his in 2008. He betrayed us then (by refusing to take the fight to the opposition after gaining the nomination), and has done nothing but subvert our cause ever since. I understand your point about you having to choose the lesser of two evils, but he's lately taken to going out of his way to be more "evil". And you somehow see calling it what it is as trying not to be your friend?

Voted for him twice. Seems like after Obama bitch slapped him with "John elections have consequences" he went turtle and became a puppet. I think after the meeting he was shown the beginning of the "McCain File" that the NSA was than starting to fill for Obam.

I don't agree with the way the Repubs went personal on Obam - McConnel saying "One term President" or holding up the Garland hearing. I can understand McConnells frustration when in the minority but when the had the ability to stop Garland have the hearing and just vote him down.

None of these guys can play poker. They all go on TV and blab their hand.
 
I saw that. What he said was, essentially, even if everything that he has been accused of were completely true, no law has been broken. Tucker was stupefied, and admitted that in 6 months of covering this, he had never even considered that.

But, I don't think that's the end game. I think the Dems know that there is no law broken that we know of. I think the whole thing is a fishing trip to see if the investigation can uncover something, anything else they can use against him.

The Dems are on record that the investigation is an investigation purely for the sake of seeing if a crime was committed. No crime has been charged. Its a case of we need to investigate and find something.

Welcome to Amerika. I'm tired of hearing the Dem talking point about "Connecting the dots". Mothers need to be off someplace with coloring books because they are too stupid to run the country.
 
This^^^
I think we have covered McCain in many threads.
If we don't hold our team to any standard what can we expect.
Voting for the lesser of two evils happens.
Once in office they have to be held to campaign promises and high standards.
Getting rid of Sheriff Joe is telling.

R

I will say one point is that the Repugs do hold members accountable and they do so at the peril of their majority.

Still I prefer that to the Dems letting the likes of Charlie Rangel, Hillary, Fauxcahontas and other continue despite the exposure of their crimes.

Sad the electorate gives them a pass also. Commies sure do UNITE.