Just another Active school shooter

I think you missed my point. I was pretty much stating a truism, which incorrectly makes the assumption we are dealing with logic. That fucker could have gone into that school with a muzzle loader and the call for gun control would be just as strong as would be if he had a mini gun.

You're missing my point

We are dealing with logic...of the purest form. To think we are not is our downfall.

The goal is to disarm the citizenry and obtain complete control...

The only way to do it is to turn everyone into gun control advocates through brainwashing. Use the MSM to convince the populace that tragic events like this can be stopped by gun control. Put it in their face 24/7 and use the children to create compellingly powerful imagery ....

That is logic..perverted, twisted and evil logic
 
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When you play with statistics, you can make anything look sensational
10x as many people have died in car crashes in just the state of NJ than have died in combat this year.

when are we going to enact common sense car regulation?

no one NEEDS a car that can travel faster than 50mph.

no one NEEDS a car that can hold more than 1 person.

no one NEEDS a car that can hold more than 10 gallons of highly flammable gas.

high capacity vans are only used by madmen to run over as many innocent people as possible
 
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If the Press spent this much time on Chicago’s murder problem. It would’ve been solved already.

I think we are seeing the opposite of the intended effect in their war on guns. With all that is happening more and more people arm themselves.
 
You're missing my point

We are dealing with logic...of the purest form. To think we are not is our downfall.

The goal is to disarm the citizenry and obtain complete control...

The only way to do it is to turn everyone into gun control advocates through brainwashing. Use the MSM to convince the populace that tragic events like this can be stopped by gun control. Put it in their face 24/7 and use the children to create compellingly powerful imagery ....

That is logic..perverted, twisted and evil logic

Nik, trust me, you’re not telling me anything I don’t know. I didn’t miss your point. I know what’s going on and I was just making the point that we have been lied to (and none of us were fooled), and now their true colors are coming out, which we knew would happen. Read this scumbag here: actually, don’t read the whole thing because it is garbage

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/amp20747292/nra-guns-take-them-away/
 
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Notice that article, which pretty much sums up the sentiment of ultra radical leftists right now. They have taken another step forward with their demands, but even so, we are still being lied to. Notice how they are addressing the NRA? They need a small target because they are a bunch of cunts. But what they really mean is, “hey Americans, now I really want to take away all your guns”
 
When was this?
For my school days, the 80's. "Coach" had no problem letting two young men solve their issues in a ring with protective head gear and some gloves. Additionally, the 'Corps back then had the same thing (as did the Navy; I remember as a kid going with my Dad, to the weekly "smokers" every Wednesday evening, where the active duty sailors would beat the crap outta each other...and then shake hands after it was over.) On the MEU(SOC) deployments we'd periodically have them as well. It was a great way to release stress and frustration (long before the days of internet, e-mail and constant communication with back home). Smokers were a great way to let all that frustration, hate and young hormonal rage out, while still maintaining good discipline and order. It was an opportunity to let it all out, and then when done, go back to the rigid discipline and routine of ship board life.
 
Nik, trust me, you’re not telling me anything I don’t know. I didn’t miss your point. I know what’s going on and I was just making the point that we have been lied to (and none of us were fooled), and now their true colors are coming out, which we knew would happen. Read this scumbag here: actually, don’t read the whole thing because it is garbage

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/amp20747292/nra-guns-take-them-away/
I. Gonna send this guy a letter with a few simple words.

Uh hem. (Clearing throat)

Dir sir,

MOLON FUCKING LABE.

Respectfully,
An Unapologetic American.
 
For my school days, the 80's. "Coach" had no problem letting two young men solve their issues in a ring with protective head gear and some gloves. Additionally, the 'Corps back then had the same thing (as did the Navy; I remember as a kid going with my Dad, to the weekly "smokers" every Wednesday evening, where the active duty sailors would beat the crap outta each other...and then shake hands after it was over.) On the MEU(SOC) deployments we'd periodically have them as well. It was a great way to release stress and frustration (long before the days of internet, e-mail and constant communication with back home). Smokers were a great way to let all that frustration, hate and young hormonal rage out, while still maintaining good discipline and order. It was an opportunity to let it all out, and then when done, go back to the rigid discipline and routine of ship board life.

We didn’t have that in NY, at least not in my schools. I will tell you this though. Fighting used to get you detention. But then it morphed into suspension. Honestly, I think if kids are caught fighting in school today, they would probably either be expelled, or have to endure a whole lotta remediation that would make them wish they got expelled
 
This is nothing but an observation and analysis. As a kid who got bullied for a time, I will tell you it is one of the worst things you can go through as a child. The stress is on par with the harshest stressors encountered as an adult, with a feeling of being completely alienated and alone. One of the headlines said the kid spared the lives of kids he liked; this is an absolute confirmation that this kid was bullied. And he was also bullied by coaches and probably teachers you said? Motherfuckers they are. So when people are up in arms asking “why?”, I am kind of dumbfounded of their ignorance. When someone is pushed over and over again relentlessly, they are pushed into desperation. Keep going, and thee should be no surprise when someone fucking snaps. Do this to a large enough sample size, and you have yourself a shooter.

So if this kid was making threats with a history of being bullied, I would handicap you have about a good 20% chance that kid is gonna do some shit. Drugs, suicide, runaway, theft, arson, or a shooting. He should have been picked up and put in a hospital.

We would say “better leave him alone or he’ll go Jeramy on your ass”. Reference to the Pearl Jam song that was popular st the time. It was understood then enough shit could result in real violence. Guy in 9th opened a dudes head with a steel pipe while he was standing at his locker. Fucker had enough and meant it.
 
We would say “better leave him alone or he’ll go Jeramy on your ass”. Reference to the Pearl Jam song that was popular st the time. It was understood then enough shit could result in real violence. Guy in 9th opened a dudes head with a steel pipe while he was standing at his locker. Fucker had enough and meant it.
I bet that song will be proposed to be outlawed
 
They'll go for British style gun control since direct confiscation would be too dangerous for the collectors. They'll simply require every gun have an expensive insurance policy and always be stored in internet-enabled lock boxes, with severe penalties if you violate. Pistols will be at clubs with those silly wire stocks to make them too large to carry. Our insurance companies will go along with this and you won't have coverage if you're caught not being compliant.

By requiring insurance they technically can get around the Second Amendment and represent it all as common sense to the proles.

There will still be millions of guns on the streets but the law abiding civilians will be effectively disarmed so any subsequent school shootings can be blamed on white supremacy and toxic masculinity rather than the guns.
 
We didn’t have that in NY, at least not in my schools. I will tell you this though. Fighting used to get you detention. But then it morphed into suspension. Honestly, I think if kids are caught fighting in school today, they would probably either be expelled, or have to endure a whole lotta remediation that would make them wish they got expelled

My 15-year old daughter has never seen an actual fight in public or at school. The boys are neutered geldings.

This is probably more of a rationale for the school shooting than any sky trails or drug conspiracy theories.
 
My 15-year old daughter has never seen an actual fight in public or at school. The boys are neutered geldings.

This is probably more of a rationale for the school shooting than any sky trails or drug conspiracy theories.

100% agreed.

I wrote this back on April 10

Are we Losing it

Points 6 and 7 in the list...
 
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They'll go for British style gun control since direct confiscation would be too dangerous for the collectors. They'll simply require every gun have an expensive insurance policy and always be stored in internet-enabled lock boxes, with severe penalties if you violate. Pistols will be at clubs with those silly wire stocks to make them too large to carry. Our insurance companies will go along with this and you won't have coverage if you're caught not being compliant.

By requiring insurance they technically can get around the Second Amendment and represent it all as common sense to the proles.

There will still be millions of guns on the streets but the law abiding civilians will be effectively disarmed so any subsequent school shootings can be blamed on white supremacy and toxic masculinity rather than the guns.

They can go for whatever they want.

Fact is they have no clue who has what and I will abide by none of it. In fact, I won't stand anywhere but in the way of it.
 
Much as I detest beheading because it's the preferred method of the religion of peace, I am leaning much more in that direction as punishment for these shitheads. And no death row---do it as soon as the sentence is passed and pre-empt all other broadcasting to cover it worldwide.

Beat them to death with own arm. Tape it. Show on morning anouncements.
 
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They can go for whatever they want.

Fact is they have no clue who has what and I will abide by none of it. In fact, I won't stand anywhere but in the way of it.

That's fine. Most people don't want to forego homeowners and life insurance, if not for them but then for their families.

Same thing for self-driving cars. Within a few years they'll be proven safer than human drivers based on statistics, your own abilities be damned. Then the insurance companies will make human driving prohibitively expensive.
 
That's fine. Most people don't want to forego homeowners and life insurance, if not for them but then for their families.

Same thing for self-driving cars. Within a few years they'll be proven safer than human drivers based on statistics, your own abilities be damned. Then the insurance companies will make human driving prohibitively expensive.

Christ, I can see it now. You hop in your Johnny cab and it asks, “where are we going today?”. You tell it and then it makes a decision whether or not it wants to take you there. Basically stripping your autonomy from you because it knows what is best for you based on statistics.

Then you rip that motherfucker out of the socket like Schwarzenegger and drive is yourself
 
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That's not the worst of it.
Your self driving car decides you need to have an unfortunate accident......
It's been done for years on cars with a bit too much tech, but people don't believe it...
Just wait till a couple big technocrats control all the cars fully... it will be very dangerous to be a dissident, or speak out against the technocrats.

Human driven, gasoline powered Cars= Freedom
Just like Guns = way to fight for your freedom

You'll notice the same forces want to eliminate both

Then add the "assistant" Spybots in your house "cloud controlled" door locks and you are fully at their mercy.

Then they push to get rid of cash so they can leave you destitute at a moment's notice..


Perhaps eventually people will wake up and stop blathering on this BS about "they are private companies and can do as they want". BS they are giant public companies that have to follow the rules like all entities. They are NOT individuals with the rights of citizens. Just see what would happen if they don't want to do business some "Protected" class of people that the SJWs pretend to care about.
 
Im dealing with a thing going on with my son and its been an eye opener.

He had multiple bouts of strep over the winter and now he has developed some severe anxiety and emotional issues.

Its a condition that only a small part of the medical community wants to accept and its not only related to strep infections, Lyme, walking pneumonia other infections can trigger a problem.

The mechanism is that the infection gets in the system. The autoimmune system revs up to attack it. Traditional treatment and the autoimmune system do not destroy the whole infection or a quick follow on second infection occurs spinning up an already spun up autoimmune response.

Our brains have a blood/brain barrier that protects the brain from infections that inhabit the rest of the body. I wasnt aware of this "force field"of the brain but there are a lot of things about our amazing bodies I dont know about.

Anyway, apparently doctors are discovering that our present generations of kids have a blood/brain barrier that does not perform as well as prior generations. They are discovering that a common place for the blood/brain barrier to "leak" is at the area of the amygdala/basal ganglia. These two areas control our most basic non conscious functions. They are our primal brains.

When the immune system is spun up and pushing killer proteins into our blood stream to attack the infection some of these proteins are crossing the blood/brain barrier at the amygdala/basal ganglia and it causes inflammation resulting in behavioral changes.

My sons issue appears to be in his amygdala more so than his basal ganglia.

The amygdala controls fight or flight, fear and anxiety. It controls basic survival emotions and it has caused us to suffer some serious emotional disturbances, he expressed self harm during the worst of it and came at me with a bat at one point, hasnt been to school in 8 weeks, and a once independent, outgoing kid will not leave the house to play with friends. All out of character. In 11 years and two months of life this has only exhibited itself the last two months and the change was overnight right after a 4th bout of strep. we are getting him the best treatment possible and are optimistic this will be beaten.

Kids with issues more related to the basal ganglia tend to show OCD disorders and chorea type movements. Our son hasnt really exhibited OCD issues or strange motor disturbances.

Anyway the med community really isnt on board that body infection causes mental issues. Parents that have brought their kids to Childrens Hospital in Boston asking for help with this have had their kids taken into custody against their parents wishes (Im guessing there may be more to the story but something bigger is wrong there). The majority part of the medical community wants to treat these things like psyche issues when in fact they are medical issues.

The result is that the psyche treatments only mask the symptoms of what is going on while the root medical cause (inflammation, possible latent infection, and a spun up immune system) go untreated.

I had never heard of this before and we only caught it early via someone catching a news article and sending it to us. I consider us lucky while I have read stories of parents going through something similar for years and they are on the psyche path which leaves me wondering how many young people out there are affected by this and not getting proper treatment?

This seems to be an issue that the effected will grow out of late teens/early twentys and generally effects kids before puberty but not after.

The cynic in me feels that a certain pharmaceutical community would rather not have this issue become known as it may lead to a loss of a lot of lifetime prescription issues and hours billed for office visits.
Unless I missed it...PANDA S (yndrome)
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/pandas/index.shtml
 
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But thank you.

Its a good thing to be aware of, sure we are not the only ones dealing with it, but I 'm sad to think we are one of the lucky that are aware of it.

I think we are pissing our doctor off slightly with our pressing for shit based on our research.

I agree there is a line that can be crossed by parents but its a duty to push the doctors if need be.
 
But thank you.

Its a good thing to be aware of, sure we are not the only ones dealing with it, but I 'm sad to think we are one of the lucky that are aware of it.

I think we are pissing our doctor off slightly with our pressing for shit based on our research.

I agree there is a line that can be crossed by parents but its a duty to push the doctors if need be.
Nope. The doctor works for you. Not the other way around.
 
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its fucking crazy but the car killing is already possible and some think that the deep state is already killing its adversaries this way.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/07/wikileaks-cia-hackers-take-control-car/

That's not the worst of it.
Your self driving car decides you need to have an unfortunate accident......
It's been done for years on cars with a bit too much tech, but people don't believe it...
Just wait till a couple big technocrats control all the cars fully... it will be very dangerous to be a dissident, or speak out against the technocrats.


Human driven, gasoline powered Cars= Freedom
Just like Guns = way to fight for your freedom

You'll notice the same forces want to eliminate both

Then add the "assistant" Spybots in your house "cloud controlled" door locks and you are fully at their mercy.

Then they push to get rid of cash so they can leave you destitute at a moment's notice..


Perhaps eventually people will wake up and stop blathering on this BS about "they are private companies and can do as they want". BS they are giant public companies that have to follow the rules like all entities. They are NOT individuals with the rights of citizens. Just see what would happen if they don't want to do business some "Protected" class of people that the SJWs pretend to care about.
 
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I'm sure they will soon realize an easy avenue of extortion with modern vehicles. If you drive over a certain distance without your seat belt the vehicle will notify the "authorities."Rather than shut the vehicle down until you buckle up (like they really care about your wellbeing), you will receive a seat belt ticket in the mail, adding to their coffers of ill-gotten gain.
 
Kid wore black trenchcoats.... had all the signs... noone said a word. Another case of... ignore the retards and pay the price.

This is now just background noise... until they deal with these retards instead of mainstreaming them... then other kids will get killed by them. Period. And the parents, teachers, staff, SRO's... everyone who ends up dead and shot and stabbed and blowed-up... well, there you go. I won't go so far as to say anyone deserves that fate....

But if you don't kill the snakes in your midst... expect to get bit.

The rest is just Kabuki theater. Liberals don't want to solve the issue... because every one of these shootings plays into their decades-long quest to destroy the Second Amendment. Republicans... are terrified of looking like they don't like retards, I guess. Then again, the RINO's are about terrified of everything....

Sirhr
 
Gun control will not fix a Social Disease. Needy people make Govt powerful. Too powerful. They won’t cure the disease because they are incubating it. Their cure is the disease.
 
That's fine. Most people don't want to forego homeowners and life insurance, if not for them but then for their families.

Same thing for self-driving cars. Within a few years they'll be proven safer than human drivers based on statistics, your own abilities be damned. Then the insurance companies will make human driving prohibitively expensive.

We’re talking about disarmament and you’re worried about insurance??? If it comes to that, insurance is the least of your problems.

And self driving cars will be the norm. I predict in 30 years, it will be impossible to drive yourself.
 
We’re talking about disarmament and you’re worried about insurance??? If it comes to that, insurance is the least of your problems.

And self driving cars will be the norm. I predict in 30 years, it will be impossible to drive yourself.

Most people will choose having a home and protecting their massive investment over having guns. You and I may not, but 90% will at minimum.

Having a felony and losing your job, life savings, custody of your kids? Not many people are going to risk it.

What I'm saying is that direct confrontation to disarm people will be rare, instead they'll whittle away at it with lawfare and numerous petty acts.
 
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what happens when the investment becomes worthless because the state seizes it to pay for their civil war? Leftists whittle til they get push bck then they use the cold brute force of government. that is when you will see the civil war. And I think its closer than you think.

Most people will choose having a home and protecting their massive investment over having guns. You and I may not, but 90% will at minimum.

Having a felony and losing your job, life savings, custody of your kids? Not many people are going to risk it.

What I'm saying is that direct confrontation to disarm people will be rare, instead they'll whittle away at it with lawfare and numerous petty acts.
 
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Most people will choose having a home and protecting their massive investment over having guns. You and I may not, but 90% will at minimum.

Having a felony and losing your job, life savings, custody of your kids? Not many people are going to risk it.

What I'm saying is that direct confrontation to disarm people will be rare, instead they'll whittle away at it with lawfare and numerous petty acts.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. They will continue to whittle but at some point, they will extend themselves too far and that is when things will change.

You talk about investments and life savings. My opinion is that if things end up in a revolt, nothing you own today will be worth a damn. The only difference between you and me is that I will be armed and you won’t be. Good luck with that.

At any rate, I likely don’t have your constraints and I am likely to be a lot older than you so my opinion is vastly different
 
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OK you're expecting some sort of armed uprising when they come to collection our guns.

I think they'll do everything they can to avoid these confrontations. The state may be stupid but it had to learn something from fighting insurgencies for 20+ years.
 
I think they'll do everything they can to avoid these confrontations. The state may be stupid but it had to learn something from fighting insurgencies for 20+ years.
They have learned nothing as the GWOT is about money an nothing more. If they think fighting rag heads will be the same as those they trained to fight them they are out of their minds. This is my dirt, my COTUS, they put weapons in my hands for over 18 years an ask me to defend this country or project it's will, an you think I don't have the right to those same weapons to defend myself or family? If they are looking for a fight over guns they will not have to look far. The other thing most miss is it just takes but one guy on the inside to fuck up their plans. An there are plenty on the inside that think like us but, the media would have you believe all of .gov is in lock step. Another Fake news event. I hope they believe their own brainwashing as it will be over before most knew it even started.
 
Right. Never mind your wife complaining because CPS took the kids away and you lost your house and nobody will rent to you. But you can't drive the van you're living in because nobody will insure you and the government won't register it, but it's OK because you can't afford the gas because nobody will hire you because you're a felon. You won't have any friends you trust and your family will disown you lest they suffer the same fate.

But at least you'll have your guns.

I'm not supporting this at all, it is awful. But this is how disarmament happens. No raids, no shoot outs, no standing down against the ATF or any of the other fantasy BS. There literally won’t be anyone to fight or shoot.

Just because I'm telling you how it is doesn't mean I'm not on your side.
 
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Right. Never mind your wife complaining because CPS took the kids away and you lost your house and nobody will rent to you. But you can't drive the van you're living in because nobody will insure you and the government won't register it, but it's OK because you can't afford the gas because nobody will hire you because you're a felon. You won't have any friends you trust and your family will disown you lest they suffer the same fate.

But at least you'll have your guns.

I'm not supporting this at all, it is awful. But this is how disarmament happens. No raids, no shoot outs, no standing down against the ATF or any of the other fantasy BS.

Just because I'm telling you how it is doesn't mean I'm not on your side.
It's only that way for those who never think out of the box. I've never been one about giving up before it begins. Glad you were not at Athens Tenn in 1946 advising those vets how to take their town back an keep it.
 
Correlation, not likely causation. Trust me, if ssris were the cause, you would see killings every single day
I agree with correlation, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was a strong correlation with the perpetrators. I also think the reason you don't hear a lot about the prescribed drugs is the amount of money the pharmaceutical companies spend in advertising and lobbying congress. Imagine what would happen if you banned pharmaceutical advertising like they did cigarettes. Maybe if it wasn't such a cash cow, it would make good 'news' stories. I can almost see the hearings on C-Span now...
 
Right. Never mind your wife complaining because CPS took the kids away and you lost your house and nobody will rent to you. But you can't drive the van you're living in because nobody will insure you and the government won't register it, but it's OK because you can't afford the gas because nobody will hire you because you're a felon. You won't have any friends you trust and your family will disown you lest they suffer the same fate.

Absolutely no offense intended to you, so try real hard not to be offended, please.

Based on your words above.
You know absolutely nothing about bottom of the pit jungle law survival.

You know absolutely nothing about living in a cardboard box under a bridge, where your wife and children live in blind loyalty to you and the family. Where you will do anything to survive.
Where you give blowjobs and ass to rich perverts for cash, where your wife does the same, and you rent the kids out for $. (Street runaways in California do it every day.)
Just so you and your family can live free of convention, where insurance, van, gas, and all that doesn't matter for shit.
Where you, your wife, or kids will ice pick any CPS worker or police who threaten your family unit, (chicago, detroit)
Where any of y'all will burn a police officer to death in his car, his house, or any other house, to protect YOUR family, where anybody else is fair game. (Meth applachia, chicago, detroit, watts)
And where there are 25 other gunless families in your hobo camp United against "the man" and willing, yes, willing to do whatever it takes to separate YOU from your gassed up, insured, licensed, registered, government approved van, while your unarmed nonfelon self works along, glad your other family likes you.
Then one day under the bridge, right b4 they blind you, you watch them pass your daughters around the whole group as sex toys, your wife too, and blinded and alive they work you and your wife to death, while you get to listen to your daughters cry in the night, getting used up. (Meth Appalachia)

Maybe you will get lucky some police or military unit gets you loose...

You make one hell of a fatal mistake putting "your values" on a bottom pit survivor....

What i described, I have seen in my lifetime both in the US and out in levels and degrees, up to the worst case described above.

And you assume there aren't people who wouldn't hire or take in gun felons from the regime..... a bunch would....
And God help you and the regime when they have had enough.

That's real, even though you might not recognize or know it, no offense intended at all.

Do not make the mistake of putting your values on others . That was one of the first lessons I taught new officers and is one of the "predeployment instructions" for the military.
 
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And Frankly, if you want some real world experience and see what I described, go work for a contractor in family security/anti kidnap/home protection in Mexico.... right next door, right b4 your eyes in plain view.
 
Right. Never mind your wife complaining because CPS took the kids away and you lost your house and nobody will rent to you. But you can't drive the van you're living in because nobody will insure you and the government won't register it, but it's OK because you can't afford the gas because nobody will hire you because you're a felon. You won't have any friends you trust and your family will disown you lest they suffer the same fate.

But at least you'll have your guns.

I'm not supporting this at all, it is awful. But this is how disarmament happens. No raids, no shoot outs, no standing down against the ATF or any of the other fantasy BS. There literally won’t be anyone to fight or shoot.

Just because I'm telling you how it is doesn't mean I'm not on your side.
I have gone over this scenario myself and it does keep me up at night at times. But it isn’t how it is; it is a prediction. Truth is none of us truly know.