Communist gets "other-than-honorable" discharge
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Held down while her eyebrows are forcibly plucked.
I’m surprised and saddened that there is even the essence of communist sympathizers in the Hide.
Communism is not an economic idea.
It’s proof you have zero understanding in economics.
Communism is not an economic idea.
It’s proof you have zero understanding in economics.
Yeah, see, this is what I was thinking, I know there's certain things you can and can't do in uniform, but I just don't recall the consequences as being this high. Regardless of what he wrote or what he believes in. UCMJ is UCMJ. But it looks like they were using him as an example. I've seen that done.
I heard that OTH to Honorable was automatic, you only had to request it and that after six months, they don't deny the request. So it's a rubber stamp, at least as far as I know, I really never met anyone with anything but honorable, FWIW. Worst I got was a company grade Article 15. Roomie went to Levenworth though and got the bad discharge, can't find anything about him now and with him, nothing would surprise me.
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All are wrong. The cat is both there and not there and can only be determined by measurement, ie, observing the cat...
You heard wrong, OTH is not automatically upgraded to honorable on request.
As for your commie joes, they’d have had accidents if I were in their platoon.
That is actuially wrong as well. Its a magical cat who appears and disappears at will.
Exactly, typical barracks myth.
Present day, a lot can get their discharges upgraded if they can assert their misbehavior was PTSD/TBI related, many get OTH for DUIs and other alcohol/drug/medication related incidents or mental health issues, with the Army's major commands being one of the worst offenders who discharge first versus transferring to wounded soldier care units and treating them properly. There's a few articles on this out there, I'll dig them up later, but that's not what this commie did. He has no PH to his name and one is certainly not getting a USMA appointment with a current severe PTSD diagnosis under treatment. Rapone will likely have zero grounds for winning his appeal, if he ever files one in the first place, because a major part of getting the upgrade is accepting fault and acknowledging he was wrong in what he did. Commies are never apologetic for their actions.
The KGB and Comintern have done their job well over the last 60 years. Their ideology is planted so deep ordinary American 25-year-olds say shit like “it’s just another political philosophy, they’re just kids, pure Communism has never been tried, etc, etc, etc...”
You guys that think that shit, you need to know that YOU even entertaining those ideas is something that was planned. Read up on the “Long March Through the Institutions.”
You know there is more than one way to skin a cat........
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. In other words, a negative cannot be proven. No greater scientific truth exists. Ironically, this truth is the greatest argument against atheism...
There both is a cat and there is no cat, nobody will know for sure until someone turns on the lights and looks.
In the case of the cat it "can" and "cant be" and that will still make sense.
The danger is trying to make that same argument in regards to God.
In the case of God there is something else - Reward.
It has been philosophized should one believe in God?
The answer is yes because there is no penalty for believing and being wrong while on the other hand to deny and than face consequences would put one in jeopardy.
There are only positives likely to come from a God fearing existence - living a moral life and the goodness that may bring. while not believing entails living an amoral life and the pain that may bring.
In the end if there is no God you will still be a person of honor while for the other you are either remembered as a scoundrel or damned to Hell.
Someone let the Pope know by the way there is a Hell.
This is Greg's box, not Schrodinger's. Greg doesn't have a cat in his box; Schrodinger may or may not.
Respectfully, and realizing we may bet a time out for religion:
That is so wrong.
I 100% respect your choice.
To me it is immaterial whether there is a deity or not. I choose, by my own free will, to live a life of honor. I choose to treat my fellow man, as far as possible, with respect and kindness neither because I fear punishment, nor anticipate reward, but because I know that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I know that as I plant in the field of life, I reap, just as I reap pumpkins from pumpkins, apples from apples. So since I want kindness from others, I offer that.
When I need, I give.
If there is a deity, then it should respect my actions and welcome me home. If not, I have the certain knowledge that I chose an honorable life.
Hell, is what you create fr yourself, by not living a life of honor.
Exactly. Greg is in charge of his orderly room and if he says there is no cat, there is no cat. It is a condition to be assumed to demonstrate the point.
Ah, but that which is, is, and though coming to not be, can never come, to not have been.
How do you know who's box it is if you don't look at it? Alas, that's enough paradoxes for one day, maybe I'll kick the idea around tomorrow while I'm fishing if it's slow.
The only thing relevant then is there's a commie in the box. All commies belong in a box. It's the best place for them. I hope Rapone rides that bike of his out this way for the Sturgis rally and tells some of the fine fellows there that communism will win, maybe then he can find his way into a box too.
Sure.
The example I gave simplifies things.
It appeals to the purely rational that stakes their decision making on just the cost/benefit analysis.
There are all sorts of reasons to argue for and against a deity but on the most simple of levels this argument is hard to argue against.
Its like a pure gamblers decision.
The odds are better to believe than not believe based on outcomes.
But would not a just and compassionate diety respect ones actions moreso than whether or not one 'believed'? In other words "Faith, Hope, Charity, but the greatest of these is Charity". Yes, brother, Ive studied the book. My Philosophical background makes me investigate everything.
Greg brought the box (room) to the thread. He said there is not a cat. The optimist is trying to convince the pessimist to help search for the cat. The pessimist is complaining the government isn't doing enough to free him and the communist it attempting to convince the other two the cat should be divided equally and he'll take a portion of their shares for the party.
I would hope so.
We dont need an entire book though the examples and history contained certainly provide examples from which to learn whether times are good or bad.
Give me one post it note with "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" than have everyone live it we will all be in a much better place.
I understood Greg's analogy perfectly when he first told it. I'm not an optimist, pessimist, and certainly not a communist. I'm the antagonist who keeps shaking the box to piss everyone off by further derailing an already derailed thread, because this hasn't been about the former 2LT Rapone in a long time.
Maybe he's the commie in the box. Until we open the box, he is both alive and dead. I say we open the box and stomp his ass until we know he is a "good" commie.
Ahhhh.......a Public Service Message. Thank You, I didn't think of that. Nuking it would be for the betterment of us all.
Some points:
There was a cat but the commie ate it -- he was starving like most people are under communism.
Billy Bragg is a commie because he sucks and has never enjoyed any commercial success.
Liberal socialism is communism in lambs fleece, so that it appeals to the sheep -- until it's too late and they are devoured.
There was a cat but the commie ate it -- he was starving like most people are under communism.
Billy Bragg is a commie because he sucks and has never enjoyed any commercial success.
Liberal socialism is communism in lambs fleece, so that it appeals to the sheep -- until it's too late and they are devoured.
Yep . The only time it has any benefit , is when a large percentage of the population can’t feed and educate
themselves IE : state of Kerala and West Bengal in India . The kids get some food everyday and maybe
an opportunity for basic education . System begins to fail as affluence rises and human nature kicks in .
As for the subject of the OP , would any of you want a guy like that next to you in combat ? I’m having
A Darwinian moment thinking he looks like the PM of Canada .
No, I got this one right. You know what I'm joking about right? Schrödinger's Cat? It's a little bit different but the gist is there.
Okay, color me wrong on OTH discharges, I don't know exactly where I heard that but I do know I heard it from more than one person so it must be one of those barracks myths like you say. Wouldn't surprise me. Like I said, never met anyone with anything but an honorable. I don't have a horse in this race or anything and it sounds like some of you are more versed with the various ETS options than I am, so I defer to your explanations.
Still I think it's harsh what they did to him, which is why I think it was them using him as an example to prevent others from doing the same thing. I could be wrong, but an OTH is about one of the worst things that could happen to a West Pointer with an eye on a military career and would indeed prevent others from writing fuckall in their hats in the future.
