Some stats on California

^ Patriots are bailing on California rather than stay and fight.
Personally, I won't be driven from my home so easily, although i am not saying I blame everyone that left.

I'll hold the flag.
Appreciate the feedback; I wasn't driven from my home though, I served the Nation for the last 30 years and my rich Uncle Sam insisted that I go where he told me to vice where I wanted.

Keep Fighting the Good Fight!
 
Since you are already starting with a bias well there isn't much to be done, unless you are actually an expert on climatology and environmental science and have done independent global wide experiments that is peer reviewed from multiple science organizations that can be replicated.
Gotcha. When the "experts" are caught lying to us repeatedly, when they move the goalposts from year to year (global cooling/warming, climate change/disruption, whatever they are calling it today), I am the one with bias?

I suppose you could say that. I actually DO have an internal bias against people who want to take away my money and freedom and use deceit to accomplish it.

But hey, you just keep drinking that koolaid. It's good for you, just ask Jim Jones
 
Since you are already starting with a bias well there isn't much to be done, unless you are actually an expert on climatology and environmental science and have done independent global wide experiments that is peer reviewed from multiple science organizations that can be replicated.

sure, and saddam had WMDs, for realz.

fact is, while it is possible man made pollution is a factor in climate change, the fearmongering is simply a symptom of a rigged system that richly rewards anything that supports the narrative, while almost no funding is given to dissenting papers.

in short, if you are a "climate scientist", there is only one way to make bank and they all know it.
have you seen footage of these conferences? it is like a hollywood event.
pure bullshit.
 
sure, and saddam had WMDs, for realz.

fact is, while it is possible man made pollution is a factor in climate change, the fearmongering is simply a symptom of a rigged system that richly rewards anything that supports the narrative, while almost no funding is given to dissenting papers.

in short, if you are a "climate scientist", there is only one way to make bank and they all know it.
have you seen footage of these conferences? it is like a hollywood event.
pure bullshit.
I wouldn't have stated this exactly but agree with your assessment. Well Done!
 
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Gotcha. When the "experts" are caught lying to us repeatedly, when they move the goalposts from year to year (global cooling/warming, climate change/disruption, whatever they are calling it today), I am the one with bias?

I suppose you could say that. I actually DO have an internal bias against people who want to take away my money and freedom and use deceit to accomplish it.

But hey, you just keep drinking that koolaid. It's good for you, just ask Jim Jones
What flavor of Kooaid are you drinking? Someone points something out that you don't agree with and that's all you can come up with. KOOLAID???? PhoolAid!
 
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What flavor of Kooaid are you drinking? Someone points something out that you don't agree with and that's all you can come up with. KOOLAID???? PhoolAid!
And I pointed out the climate "scientists" have lied repeatedly and been caught. Even NASA. go ahead, look it up, it's not hard.

By the way, are you and @98Vandal in cahoots, or just the same idiot?
 
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That is what happens when the government gives research grants.

They drag it out, make it vague and when enough people get tired of it they change the story and get more grants.

It's a racket and the more sensationalism the more they get paid.
 
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That is what happens when the government gives research grants.

They drag it out, make it vague and when enough people get tired of it they change the story and get more grants.

It's a racket and the more sensationalism the more they get paid.

exactly, although you said it without swearing.

i get the impression some shooters don't understand what we are saying, so i want to give some citation


The first iron rule of American politics is: Follow the money. This explains, oh, about 80 percent of what goes on in Washington.

Shortly after the latest Chicken Little climate change report was published last month, I noted on CNN that one reason so many hundreds of scientists are persuaded that the sky is falling is that they are paid handsomely to do so.

I noted that “In America and around the globe governments have created a multi-billion dollar Climate Change Industrial Complex.” And then I added: “A lot of people are getting really, really rich off of the climate change industry.” According to a recent report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, “Federal funding for climate change research, technology, international assistance, and adaptation has increased from $2.4 billion in 1993 to $11.6 billion in 2014, with an additional $26.1 billion for climate change programs and activities provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009.”

This doesn’t mean that the planet isn’t warming. But the tidal wave of funding does reveal a powerful financial motive for scientists to conclude that the apocalypse is upon us. No one hires a fireman if there are no fires. No one hires a climate scientist (there are thousands of them now) if there is no catastrophic change in the weather. Why doesn’t anyone in the media ever mention this?
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How big is the Climate Change Industrial Complex today? Surprisingly, no one seems to be keeping track of all the channels of funding. A few years ago Forbes magazine went through the federal budget and estimated about $150 billion in spending on climate change and green energy subsidies during President Obama’s first term.

That didn’t include the tax subsidies that provide a 30 percent tax credit for wind and solar power — so add to those numbers about $8 billion to $10 billion a year. Then add billions more in costs attributable to the 29 states with renewable energy mandates that require utilities to buy expensive “green” energy.

Worldwide the numbers are gargantuan. Five years ago, a leftist group called the Climate Policy Initiative issued a study which found that “Global investment in climate change” reached $359 billion that year. Then to give you a sense of how money-hungry these planet-saviors are, the CPI moaned that this spending “falls far short of what’s needed” a number estimated at $5 trillion.

Now here’s the real scandal of the near trillion dollars that governments have stolen from taxpayers to fund climate change hysteria and research. By the industry’s own admission there has been almost no progress worldwide in actually combating climate change. The latest reports by the U.S. government and the United Nations say the problem is getting worse not better and we have not delayed the apocalypse by a single day.


Has there ever been such a massive government expenditure that has had such minuscule returns on investment? After three decades of “research” the only “solution” is for the world to stop using fossil fuels, which is like saying that we should stop growing food.

Really? The greatest minds of the world entrusted with hundreds of billions of dollars can only come up with a solution that would entail the largest government power grab in world history, shutting down industrial production (just look at the catastrophe in Germany when they went all in for green energy), and throwing perhaps billions of human beings into poverty? If that’s the remedy, I will take my chances on a warming planet.


President Trump should tell these “scientists” that “you’re fired.” And we taxpayers should demand our money back.


 
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Come to san Diego. I've got a spare room for you. We'll go shoot long range, then we'll fish the bay for some bass or halibut. Then we'll makes'mores on the beach.

We have shitty laws but it's a nice place to live.
Thank you for the offer, but I live in Wyoming, why in the hell would I want to leave here for a county with seven times the population of my entire state? I shoot further, hike higher, catch more fish, pass more pronghorn than people on my weekly 140 mile commute to work, and I don't do beaches with water temps under 78°F.

Having laws based upon freedom, low taxes, personal accountability, and low regulation of both the citizenry and industry makes for a nice place to live, not the climate. I've said it hundreds of times, you couldn't beat me bad enough to live in California.
 
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Write to your elected officials with the same passion that you write with here and we'll get the results we want!

As a native Californian, keep dreaming. Democrats like to keep people in little boxes and pander. Won't ever change, no matter what logic you throw at politicians.