Gonna Get Sold Down the River for The Wall

Funny how the Republican politicians who campaigned on “gun rights” and getting the “evangelical vote” being all “God fearing” politicians, interesting how you never hear any of them say “we need to be more like Jesus and less like the world”... no just control people who follow the law with gun control.

The solution to the problem of man killing man is for man (which has been happing since God booted Adam and Eve out of the garden) is to be one with God in his heart and mind. But that’s not happing, people are saturated in filth and bathing in it. They love it....

So the practical solution is for us Men who are real Men, get right with the Lord in your Heart and Mind then arm yourself and prepare for battle. I’m not talking about a civil war, I’m talking about taking your family to Walmart and going to the supermarket, be prepared for some Godless creature to be out to take your life. Always be ready. Always have a defensive mindset and the proper firearms. Train. Teach your family what to do if there is a nut job trying to kill you.

Man has been violently killing Man for a long time. Just because things are pretty tranquil now and we’re all fat and happy, don’t mean Man has changed. There’s still plenty of animals out there that lust innocent blood.

Be prepared with a side arm and a long gun close by.

And yet some "godless" men would lay their lives down to protect innocent lives.

Sorry. Your train of thought just ain't "happing."
 
That’s true, not saying there isn’t decent people out there that don’t follow the good book. On the same subject, there’s more godless people who would trample over the innocent to save their own necks...

You didn’t read what I wrote, I said that mindset isn’t happening, so the only solution is to get right with the Lord and arm yourself to the max and prepare for battle.

No politicians or Government is going to create a law or regulation that fixes this problem. Hell Governments have killed more people then any single civilians in history.

I'll never be right with your Lord, and that's okay. The Creator will judge me, as He judges all of us.
 
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I guess it doesn't matter that both shooters passed their background checks?

It doesn’t matter. This isn’t Minority Report. More background checks isn’t going to do anything but erode more rights. If someone is squeaky clean no background check, no matter how deep it is, is going to stop anything. It’s just not possible unless we can somehow start reading peoples minds.
 
The Left will take your guns. Trump is a populist and might if he perceives advantage in acquiescing to the soccer moms and Antis in order to achieve a defining accomplishment during his Administration.

They will TRY to take your guns and it will come in steps.
  1. "Common Sense" gun laws - - double speak for more repressive laws limiting ownership of SA and hi cap magazines
  2. Registration of SA "Assault Weapons" and a ban on manufacture of new ones - - matter of time before some POTUS caves and allows this to occur. Question remains as to what punitive steps will they impose to increase the rate of registration from a historical 3-5%
  3. Ban on all SA weapons - - based on perceived safety from "Domestic" terrorism
  4. Confiscation - - highly dependent on the effectiveness of the registration step

Up to you whether you will hand them over or not.

Disarmament is virtually impossible in the US....they have no idea where 40-50% of the 300 million (or is it 400 million) firearms are by their own admission. THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS THIS....

We can win this if we go at it

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The Lt. Governor of TX made a great point. Guns have always been ubiquitous in America, and we've never had a rash of these shootings. When things change do you look at the way it's always been, or do you identify what has changed?

Just as an exercise in simple logic it is not the guns that are causing this, and taking them away from the law abiding will not stop it.

You know who doesn't have any problems with their citizens mass murdering, or gangs, or drugs, or crime in general? North Korea. By the left's yardstick that's paradise.

It will come down to a fight, and if you want to see the endgame look at those poor fools in Hong Kong. They are totally disarmed, and China is going to crush them (probably this week). Don't be them.
 
The Lt. Governor of TX made a great point. Guns have always been ubiquitous in America, and we've never had a rash of these shootings. When things change do you look at the way it's always been, or do you identify what has changed?

Just as an exercise in simple logic it is not the guns that are causing this, and taking them away from the law abiding will not stop it.

You know who doesn't have any problems with their citizens mass murdering, or gangs, or drugs, or crime in general? North Korea. By the left's yardstick that's paradise.

It will come down to a fight, and if you want to see the endgame look at those poor fools in Hong Kong. They are totally disarmed, and China is going to crush them (probably this week). Don't be them.

Depends. One could make a strong argument that the controlling gov of NK is a mass murdering machine lol. Just because those in control make up the rules don’t make something right.

Can you elaborate on what you are talking about in reference to Hong Kong? I am not familiar with any of this.
 
You know who doesn't have any problems with their citizens mass murdering, or gangs, or drugs, or crime in general? North Korea. By the left's yardstick that's paradise.
Depends. One could make a strong argument that the controlling gov of NK is a mass murdering machine lol. Just because those in control make up the rules don’t make something right.

Can you elaborate on what you are talking about in reference to Hong Kong? I am not familiar with any of this.

They have been protesting a new law that allows anyone to be extradited to mainland China for any crime. They actually won that, and it is now off the table, but they have continued to protest because they want their democracy back that they lost when they became part of China, and it ain't happening. Just like Tiananmen Square the ChiComs will only be pushed so far till they unleash "The People's Army" on the people. Totalitarian regimes almost cannot be toppled from within if they are ruthless enough. The ChiComs are ruthless enough.
 
I'll never be right with your Lord, and that's okay. The Creator will judge me, as He judges all of us.

Thats debatable, Ji. Our book, according to the words of Jesus of Nazareth, states that the greatest commandment is :

"To love the Lord God with all heart, mind, soul."

The second is:

"To treat your neighbors as you wish to be treated. If you do that you've done the first. If not, you cannot do the first, for no man can love God and hate his neighbor."

Do you do the second? If so your'e right with the Almighty as Christians perceive him. If not......

I dont get all hung up in semantics, nor dogmas. It all boils down to the second.
 
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I doubt he's looking for your spiritual advice.

As a practical matter I think it is more critical to BE spiritual than so much as to which flavor it is.

The problem at its core is that these people are 100% narcissists. It is the very same affliction that our politicians suffer from. The two just channel their maladies differently.
 
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I doubt he's looking for your spiritual advice.
You may be right but I don't think Maggot is offering spiritual advice as I interpret it. I think he's opening a door between peoples of different faiths to reach understanding.


As a practical matter I think it is more critical to BE spiritual than so much as to which flavor it is.
I think it's more critical to act in a manner that professes your faith and spirituality through action.
 
The point of my posts is the solution is simple: Christianity, following the teachings of Jesus. Be more like Jesus and less like the world. Jesus wasn’t out there mass murdering innocent people...

But that’s not happening. So my next suggestion is to get right with the Lord and arm yourself to the teets.

Think about it this way, our Ancestors got right with the Lord and armed themselves the best they could and they defeated the strongest military force on earth... just some kids, merchants and hayseeds with a small military force (continental army) vs Great Britain.

The Lord delivered them the French to help beat the British.

If there was no God, explain to me how a bunch of dirt sticks could beat such a powerful force? Or better yet how being a man without the strength of God inside them, giving them the willpower to fight is possible? Hard to beat someone fighting for liberty and God...

I could address some of your errors but it would only start an interminable argument in which nothing would be settled. The Bear Pit is not the place for that.
 
If there was no God, explain to me how a bunch of dirt sticks could beat such a powerful force? Or better yet how being a man without the strength of God inside them, giving them the willpower to fight is possible? Hard to beat someone fighting for liberty and God...

The British weren't that good at war, and the French fucking hated them more than we did.
 
I absolutely deny that, including Jefferson. Leftist propaganda bullshit. Most of The founders were incredibly devout. Jefferson made the point in a few letters that devotion to Christianity was not a requirement to good citizenship, but he never said it wasn't a huge help, and he wrote on several occasions similar to this: "“I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.” - Jefferson to Charles Thomson, January 9, 1816

Whenever you hear that Jefferson was not a Christian it is some scholar saying he wasn't because they found somewhere where his writing diverged from orthodox Christianity. If you asked the man himself he would have stated (and did) unequivocally that he was a Christian. In order to make that case you have to get into thick theological weeds about what is and isn't Christian, but to blindly accept this leftist claptrap is bullshit. Jefferson asked a lot of questions, and was probably our most deeply theological President, but it was all in the light of a deep reverence for Christianity and the teachings of Jesus.

I leave judgement on the disposition of Jefferson's soul to the deep thinking and deep feeling leftists who proclaim him a fellow atheist!
 
The British weren't that good at war

Yah, OK...………..

"Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves" was more than a patriotic song. It was a fact that for almost 300 years the Royal Navy decided or could decide at will who sailed where and when.

If you don't think that qualifies as being good at war, LOL.
 
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Yah, OK...………..

"Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves" was more than a patriotic song. It was a fact that for almost 300 years the Royal Navy decided or could decide who sailed where and when.

If you don't think that qualifies as being good at war, LOL.

Yep, A-team got a little fat and lazy sitting at the top.
 
I absolutely deny that, including Jefferson. Leftist propaganda bullshit. Most of The founders were incredibly devout. Jefferson made the point in a few letters that devotion to Christianity was not a requirement to good citizenship, but he never said it wasn't a huge help, and he wrote on several occasions similar to this: "“I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.” - Jefferson to Charles Thomson, January 9, 1816

Whenever you hear that Jefferson was not a Christian it is some scholar saying he wasn't because they found somewhere where his writing diverged from orthodox Christianity. If you asked the man himself he would have stated (and did) unequivocally that he was a Christian. In order to make that case you have to get into thick theological weeds about what is and isn't Christian, but to blindly accept this leftist claptrap is bullshit. Jefferson asked a lot of questions, and was probably our most deeply theological President, but it was all in the light of a deep reverence for Christianity and the teachings of Jesus.

I leave judgement on the disposition of Jefferson's soul to the deep thinking and deep feeling leftists who proclaim him a fellow atheist!

And yet he owned slaves. Not only owned them but treated them poorly, and took great pains in making as much profit off selling them as possible.

Not exactly what 'Christ' proscribed in his teachings. Im from Charlottesville and attended 'Mr. Jefferson's University' so believe me Im familiar with his activities. The fact is that most of the founders were not strictly 'Christian' but from a broad religious diversity. Many were what we consider today, 'Deists'.

The Founding Fathers, Deism, and Christianity | Britannica.com
www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers...
The Founding Fathers, Deism, and Christianity. John Jay (who served as president of the American Bible Society ), Elias Boudinot (who wrote a book on the imminent Second Coming of Jesus), and Patrick Henry (who distributed religious tracts while riding circuit as a lawyer) clearly believed in Evangelical Christianity.
 
Believe whatever you want to believe. I will trust first person sources to describe themselves in their own words.

I wonder if Maggot would take offense if I started to describe your beliefs ignoring and in contravention of what you say about yourself?
 
The point of my posts is the solution is simple: Christianity, following the teachings of Jesus. Be more like Jesus and less like the world. Jesus wasn’t out there mass murdering innocent people...

But that’s not happening. So my next suggestion is to get right with the Lord and arm yourself to the teets.

Think about it this way, our Ancestors got right with the Lord and armed themselves the best they could and they defeated the strongest military force on earth... just some kids, merchants and hayseeds with a small military force (continental army) vs Great Britain.

The Lord delivered them the French to help beat the British.

If there was no God, explain to me how a bunch of dirt sticks could beat such a powerful force? Or better yet how being a man without the strength of God inside them, giving them the willpower to fight is possible? Hard to beat someone fighting for liberty and God...

Don't drag your religion into this. Your answer isn't mine. Atheists and non-Christians are just as deserving of living in this Republic and enjoying its Constitutional protections. Liberty and justice should be for all equally.
 
The narrative is the same as it always has been since I was a kid. People have been clamoring for more gun control since I can remember and that is a long time. Fact is...our rights continue to get chipped away....little by little. The gun grabbers like most moochers know that a wholesale act would cause a problem and they are patient. They will continue to take all small victories towards the ultimate aim at disarming the populace. At that point they are in complete control and can do as they please.

I urge everyone to fight this tooth and nail. These people are nothing but bold faced liars. The fact that anyone can look at the number of these events knowing that firearm laws over the last 40 years have gotten more Draconian and then argue that more is the answer is incredulous to me. I remember being able to buy a Solothurn 20mm via mail order....Handguns were sold in every Joe blow sporting good shop and there were little to no registration. There were few if none of these events in a period where firearms laws were lax. Why continue to argue it. These people know it and don't care....they want DISARMAMENT. Stop thinking you can change it...you can't
  1. Buy ammo
  2. Buy spare parts for your firearms including hi cap magazines.
  3. Buy NV
  4. Buy plates and carriers
You won't be able to soon enough

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It doesn’t matter. This isn’t Minority Report. More background checks isn’t going to do anything but erode more rights. If someone is squeaky clean no background check, no matter how deep it is, is going to stop anything. It’s just not possible unless we can somehow start reading peoples minds.

Well when they start reading minds, just like some of the more advanced stuff they are trying to do with reading the signs your body gives off, you just have to evolve and adapt. Once you learn to hide your thoughts and pending actions from your daily conscious mind and rewire how your mind thinks about actions, you'll be able to get by.