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    Heyo,

    Just moved to Belgium, down by Mons, and was curious if there are any members who shoot in the area.
     
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    Hey man. Yea just moved to Mons a little over a week ago. Weather is umm...well it’s windy, cold, overcast, and wet haha. Heard that was the norm here.
     
    Cool. How is it compared to living in the US? Way expensive, not so expensive? Rent? Meals? What's the down side? what's the up side?

    I have friends all over the EU and UK and they all have a different perspective on the pros and cons. What's yer perspective? I probably need to visit for myself but your impressions would be much appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!

    VooDoo
     
    Cool. How is it compared to living in the US? Way expensive, not so expensive? Rent? Meals? What's the down side? what's the up side?

    I have friends all over the EU and UK and they all have a different perspective on the pros and cons. What's yer perspective? I probably need to visit for myself but your impressions would be much appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!

    VooDoo
    Haven’t really been here long enough to give a solid opinion yet, especially seeing as how I haven’t traveled outside of 30mins from Chièvres. That being said...

    People seem to complain a lot about the roads and their quality. The roads aren’t bad. Nothing like driving in NYC, Boston, or northern Ohio. Size-wise, it’s like driving on a single lane one way US road except that here it’s two way traffic with parked cars on the side. ...so a lot of bumped mirrors and playing the “no you go I’ll dip into this spot here so you can pass” game. I’m used to driving large vehicles in countries with pretty much zero road rules, infrastructure, or licensed drivers so driving here isn’t an issue once I started learned the lay of the land and their road signs.

    Eating out here is expensive and the food quality doesn’t really match the price. That being said, it’s a military town/area so you have to kind of just accept that. Also, I’ve also only eaten locally maybe five times, so it’s by no way a definitive statement. I’m also assuming I've only eaten at the local equivalent of those shitty places located right outside of a base. If that’s the case, then the food is much better or at least on par with their CONUS equivalents. I’m also big into cooking and pretty much cook every meal for the family. I’m weird and prefer to cook rather than go out, at least in the states.

    My view on the housing market is also biased as the locals charge military more than locals to rent their places, with some refusing to rent to Americans/non-Belgians. It is what it is. As for the quality of houses for the price, it’s better and also worse when compared to some of the COUS locations we’ve been. 1,400€ here gets you pretty much shit. The locals know what the housing allowances are and match their rents to it. Then, due to the clauses they have within the contract, you have to pay extra each month for certain things, even stuff as basic as screens for your window...which usually just includes one or two screens.

    VAT is a whole other beast, especially with vehicles. But everything you buy is taxed out the ass, on top of the taxes the Belgian govt takes. Thankfully I don’t have to worry about the income part unless I get a non-US govt/NATO gig. It is funny though that booze is rationed here for those stationed. I feel like I’m going to make out my wife’s booze rations in a week haha!

    Not going to lie though, showing you and not being able to speak French immediately makes everything more difficult, but it isn’t impossible. My wife is a bit more cultured and traveled than I, while I’m over here sounding like Aldo Raine from Inglorious Bastards lol.

    Not being able to hit the range when I want (aka not at all now) is definitely a bummer, but hopefully there are some members nearby that need a spotter or someone to work fundamentals with. Gotta try to keep the skills sharp for the next three years lol. Gotta find a new hobby to replace it I guess. Maybe I’ll become a Tier One IG Airsoft Mercenary Operator Sniper and sell my bath water. ??‍♀️

    My free time is limited being that I have a toddler, so it isn’t like I can just catch a train while the wife is at work and just travel the continent. ? He’ll be starting school in a few weeks so that will open up my free time during business hours.

    If there’s anything specific you have a question about, let me know and I’ll try to find out. Otherwise that’s pretty much it in a nutshell.

    welcome from delaware
    Thanks man. I’ve been on the Hide for a while now, just new to Belgium. You do any travels to Belgium?
     
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    Lived not too far away in Geneva. Europe is so cute in how they think its a continent and all but in reality its just a bunch of small insignificant countries that are primarily grave yards for various generations of youth.

    Good for you sounds like an interesting endeavor.

    Get a road bike and there is your PT routine.

    Time off for me would be searching WWI and WWII sites. Mons was a bit of hell on earth at one time.

    Never went to Begique.

    You should make all your posts in Walloon now.
     
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    Lived not too far away in Geneva. Europe is so cute in how they think its a continent and all but in reality its just a bunch of small insignificant countries that are primarily grave yards for various generations of youth.

    Good for you sounds like an interesting endeavor.

    Get a road bike and there is your PT routine.

    Time off for me would be searching WWI and WWII sites. Mons was a bit of hell on earth at one time.

    Never went to Begique.

    You should make all your posts in Walloon now.
    Truth.
    It is definitely weird being able to drive on half a tank and be in multiple countries, let alone jump on a train.
    Planning on hitting every country I can and we are already planning out our WW site trips.
    As for biking here... I don’t think I’m that suicidal. In just the past week, I watched three dudes on bikes almost get turned into Panda meat. Besides, I have a full garage gym being shipped here ? and cardio is the ISIS of fitness. #NotTodayISIS
     
    Truth.
    It is definitely weird being able to drive on half a tank and be in multiple countries, let alone jump on a train.
    Planning on hitting every country I can and we are already planning out our WW site trips.
    As for biking here... I don’t think I’m that suicidal. In just the past week, I watched three dudes on bikes almost get turned into Panda meat. Besides, I have a full garage gym being shipped here ? and cardio is the ISIS of fitness. #NotTodayISIS

    I bought a Cannondale in Heidelberg PX and biked all over The Jura just across the border in France.

    Used to ride to the tops of hills until asphalt turned to gravel which than turned to forest path until they became cattle trail above tree line. Than I would hide my bike in the woods and continue on foot until I reached the top of the mountain I happened to be on.

    Once I discovered the mountains I started dragging other Marines with me. Id load an Alice pack with a Coleman stove and we would hike the hills. We generally war BDU bottoms, LL Bean tops and fucked up head gear - mine being a cowboy hat. When stopped black passports and "Ah, Marine, Oui?" usually had us on our way.

    Reading "Achtung Panzer" later in life I realized that my lunch spot on "La Dole" was where Heinz Guderian stood and looked upon Switzerland as his tanks completed one leg of his blitzkrieg through France.

    Lucky you.

    My mil time in Europe was great but I could have done so much more if I wasn't young, dumb and bar crazed.
     
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    I didn’t [couldn't] because there’s a process you have to go through before you can import a firearm. Most of my firearms are in long term storage (PCS non-temp) but I still have some with family that I could have imported...or just finally buy my AI while I’m over here lol. It isn’t a complicated process, but I’m not fluent in French...which is what the govt test and forms are in.

    So to import one of my rifles:
    -State my purpose/intent for ownership
    -Take a written exam/competency test
    -Police record/background check
    -Medical/psychological evaluation
    -Join a shooting club

    Once approved, I’d have 6 months to import a firearm and would then be required to shoot X amount of times a year at the club or the permit gets revoked.

    I might be missing a step or misnamed a step, but that’s it in a nutshell. Wouldn’t be complicated if I spoke French. There are a couple ranges near me but I haven’t stopped by to check em out yet.

    I’ll be here for three years and will obviously pick up French during that time, but I don’t know if it will be worth it just on the US side of things with exporting one of the ones I left with family and then going through the Belgian export/US import process two years later.

    What I would be down to do is whore myself out as a spotter for someone, so I can keep up with those skills while I’m here. I brought my spotter, tripod, lrf, and a bunch of other basic kit on the off chance I’d import a rifle or find a shooter who needs/wants help with shooting.

    Then again, I could go buy a pellet rifle and toss my ATACR on it lol.
     
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