Pillar Bed help, Manners Stock and Hawkins M5 DBM

[Safety_3rd]

I picked up a defiance Deviant BA and had a manners stock inlet for an M5 DBM. The manners came with long pillars and bolts. The Hawkins M5 came with a short front pillar and a longer rear pillar. I am attempting to bed the pillars (and eventually bed the action) but I wanted to make sure I didnt mess it up. When I install the BM using the hawkins supplied pillars the rounds feed up until the magazine is empty then the bolt hangs on the follower. I am cool with this, just want to know if this is how its supposed to be. When I put the BA in the stock and again using the hawkins pillars the front fits flush with both the top (action side) and the bottom (BM side), however the rear pillar either sits about 1/8 in high towards the action side, or 1/8 inch low on BM side.
I also noticed it looks like I need to sand the stock barrel channel to open it up to fit the proof sendero barrel.

Can someone help me to make sure I dont jack this up? Do I want the rear tang to be flush with the manners on the top or the bottom?
Thank you in advance.
-Patrick

 

[Safety_3rd]

** Edit I think I need the rear pillar flush with the top of the stock and sticking out from the bottom. When I do this it frees up some more space under the barrel and the muzzle end of the stock.

 

[jwhjwh54]

I’m not a pro and sent my gun to a smith for this exact thing but I believe you should Trim the pillars so everything is flush and fits right.

 

[Terry Cross]

I picked up a defiance Deviant BA and had a manners stock inlet for an M5 DBM. The manners came with long pillars and bolts. The Hawkins M5 came with a short front pillar and a longer rear pillar. I am attempting to bed the pillars (and eventually bed the action) but I wanted to make sure I didnt mess it up. When I install the BM using the hawkins supplied pillars the rounds feed up until the magazine is empty then the bolt hangs on the follower. I am cool with this, just want to know if this is how its supposed to be. When I put the BA in the stock and again using the hawkins pillars the front fits flush with both the top (action side) and the bottom (BM side), however the rear pillar either sits about 1/8 in high towards the action side, or 1/8 inch low on BM side.
I also noticed it looks like I need to sand the stock barrel channel to open it up to fit the proof sendero barrel.

Can someone help me to make sure I dont jack this up? Do I want the rear tang to be flush with the manners on the top or the bottom?
Thank you in advance.
-Patrick

The pillar height of any DBM style bottom metal is non negotiable, period.
Use the pillars supplied with whatever is supplied with your bottom metal and do not alter them.

If something does not line up, stop....contact the maker of the bottom metal for guidance.
If after trouble shooting with the manufacturer of the bottom metal the pillars seem to be to proper spec, I would then contact the stock maker to trouble shoot the potential for a problem with the inletting.

Make sure the supplied and unmodified pillars are pinched between the receiver and bottom metal when you dry fit everything prior to bedding.
Again, the Z-axis space between the receiver and dbm has got to be to spec. You will usually try to get the DBM fitting flush with the bottom of the stock and the receiver will ultimately sit where ever the pillars put it above the top waterline of the stock.

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[Safety_3rd]

The pillar height of any DBM style bottom metal is non negotiable, period.
Use the pillars supplied with whatever is supplied with your bottom metal and do not alter them.

If something does not line up, stop....contact the maker of the bottom metal for guidance.
If after trouble shooting with the manufacturer of the bottom metal the pillars seem to be to proper spec, I would then contact the stock maker to trouble shoot the potential for a problem with the inletting.

Make sure the supplied and unmodified pillars are pinched between the receiver and bottom metal when you dry fit everything prior to bedding.
Again, the Z-axis space between the receiver and dbm has got to be to spec. You will usually try to get the DBM fitting flush with the bottom of the stock and the receiver will ultimately sit where ever the pillars put it above the top waterline of the stock.

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My man. Thank you.