Went shooting this weekend like always, and all I can say to all the fobbits running around is...
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Is he joking or being serious? I see him doing a sort of correct high port (his rifle is straight, not barrel at 45 degrees when he does it) for 1 second afterwards so Im confused.
Low ready is easier especially to start learning with as well as with a plate on. I show all my guys everything from the low ready first, because a high port is tricky by itself and will just frustrate them/fuck everything else that proceeds it up. You can also index a low ready by learning to find where the bottom 'point' of your stock sits that when you bring it up, everything will be where it needs to be. Guys can find/learn that spot and know that when they present, they'll at least be very close.
His high ready/high port (God I hope thats a joke) isn't actually a high port at all. The benefit of it, is that once you can do it correctly, shows up when moving. Good example was just yesterday with a simple move drill where you could insert basically anything into it (unknown rounds, mag changes, malfunctions, etc).
- Start at a low ready or high port ready
- Timer goes, bring gun up on 40% IPSC at 50 yards. 2 shots.
- Safety on, move to a marker to the 3-4 o clock about 30 yards away. 1 round on first IPSC, 1 round on a second 40% IPSC.
- Safety on, move to a marker thats in a ditch/wash another 30ish yards away a bit further back, to the 4-5 o clock. 1 round on each IPSC.
Face value, not a hard drill. But its designed to incorporate movement into the equation as you are sprinting from spot to spot. Basically a F&M 1 person drill without the 2nd guy providing cover.
Outside of having to run, the thing that fucks with everyone is, first, how you get into a proper/close enough stance to fire that doesn't take 2-3 seconds of shuffeling your feet to do. Second, the terrain isn't perfect and flat, so figure it out. Third, you have to run with the gun and then present on target each time; this is where everyone comes apart at first as when they go to bring the gun up, who knows where their NPOA is and/or how long it takes as well as what the recoil does to your 2nd sight picture because of all of this.
Anyone using a low ready takes even more time as they have to stop, then index/get the gun up infront of them and their shoulder, bring it up, then fire. High port allows you to basically run with the gun freely/naturally with the gun pointed already in a high port position. I'm able to push the gun out from a high port literally faster than I can stop and be on target.
I always have them run the drills first and then I do it. The difference in times was crazy.
Another example is the 6/6/6 drill where we simply download the round count to save on ammo but still run the drill in all 3 positions. I'd put 2x the ammo in and would race other guys and still be faster with 100% hits on the IPSC at 50 yards.
Instead of the common low ready, you have the carbine with the buttstock under your armpit and the barrel infront of you at about 45 degrees. Your forward hand is on the forend correctly and your rear hand is holding the grip. Then you slightly push the barrel out enough to clear the buttstock from hitting your torso while rotating the buttstock up to simultaneously clear your body (but dont push it all the way out like youre tossing the rifle infront of you) and put it into the correct firing position, right as thats set, if done correctly, you are then slightly pulling with the rear hand, the grip into your shoulder and already have the proper grip on the foreand. You also angle the gun inwards a little so you dont have to crane/angle your head or neck to see down the RDS; it should appear infront of your eye, and you should always be staring at the target. This then also gives you a little more room as on the top end of a plate, its angled the same way your stock would be with an inward angle of the gun.
Its much harder to learn and get right than the low ready, but its much faster. Also has the gun facing up to where if you were surprised around a corner in CQB you sould shoot, or push the gun out and basically smash the guy in the face with the barrel/suppressor.
Reason its difficult is that both hands are doing different things simultaneously and you dont have a set index spot like from the busttock tip on the low ready.
It's more inline with your body, easier to control the weapon and you can clear corners without having the end of your gun hanging down and hitting door jams.
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Here's one too with KaaaaaRRRLLLL, who I like, and have always though hed be fun to fight for some reason.
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Someone who deploys but rarely if ever goes outside the wire and lives there entire deployment from the safety within the fob.Generally consist of the majority of non combat related jobs.
Also see Pog from the Marine vernacular... Person other than grunt
Huh... never knew that was a for-reals thing outside of battle drill 6a. Makes a ton of sense though, since we adopted high ready for the exact reasons you cited. Thanks for breaking it down.
Some may prefer to push up daisies than be a slave.
What do we all the ones that never deploy? ...that’s the only thing worse than a fobbit.
Yea but you’ll still have to download each mag to make sure they are all facing the right direction
that happens to me sometimes.
Serious night at my house.
My brain is almost always pretty light and ready for a laugh. I have missed before, will again....
Motherfucker gonna split those skinny jeans if he spreads that stance any more.....
The German gave a benefit to the high ready. It’s not an actual reason it’s used. Are you saying you completely rewrote TTPs because you were afraid that someone would grab you gun when entering a threshold? That’s not why people use the high ready...
The only thing worse than a FOBBIT is a grunt that doesn’t want to deploy.
The real problems start when they deploy.
Your comment is not appreciated.
I'm saying that in 2000-ish, Army was teaching 1,2 low-ready; 3 high ready. In 2003, high-ready became the norm when stacking on the door.
Not because someone would grab a gun, but whacking it into a doorframe or #2 sweeping #1 as 1&2 split. I personally know of at least one AD into the concrete at JRTC's live fire shoothouse because of the low-ready transition into doorframe.
It's all fun and games until the National Guard unit deploys....
Then the tears start from the AD Army guys who figure out the NG will come home with combat patches, and they still don't have one.
Then the tears start from the AD Army guys who figure out the NG will come home with combat patches, and they still don't have one.
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Guess it would depend on if said NG combat patch came from sitting in Kuwait eating BK. I could live with myself in that scenario and shed no tears
High Port has it's uses. If you have an immediate expectation of trouble, yeah. Hard to beat.
High Port doesn't look like holding it for extended periods will be comfortable and will lead to muscle fatigue so.....
Low Ready: FOBBITs on sentry duty or those on foot patrol where the threat isn't as high or there is more time to react.
High Port doesn't look like holding it for extended periods will be comfortable and will lead to muscle fatigue so.....
Low Ready: FOBBITs on sentry duty or those on foot patrol where the threat isn't as high or there is more time to react.
^And he’s a Doc, so it’s a scientific fact.
Funny you say that. I had a female E7(brigade NCOIC)when I first came in in 2007 and she had been in for 14 years already and had never deployed. I was in one of the batteries as a junior one medic and 4 months later I was sitting in Iraq. I got sent to a COP as a sole medic for 130 personnel. No PA there, just me. Luckily I had 10yrs experience as a civilian paramedic by then. She stayed at FOB Delta the whole time. Never once left the wire to even come visit us to see if we needed anything for 15 months. She walked away with a bronze star. I got an Army Commendation Medal......after i was denied an MSM due to my rank of only a specialist......WTF.
In Afghanistan, I was loaned to the 7th EN and I had medics at ghazni including myself that were down to one uniform because of ones being ruined by blood and such, we were busy in Afghanistan. However at Bagram, where most of our unit was, they all had the nice shit . Our admin clerk couldnt put any more attachments on his M4. I mean he had a grip pod, IR light, aimpoint with magnifier and a double mag carrier, most of which he bought himself. But we couldn't get uniforms. WTF. My nut sack even had a tan over there.....
To this day i never wear anything beside my combat patches. Fuck all that shit.
Doc
That sounds about right.
Wife and I were just talking about how the bullshit with awards needs to stop. Awards must be based on merit...not rank. Absolute horseshit.
Also, wearing flair is FOBBIT-level ghey. I’m glad we just drove around in our CARs and don’t have to worry about pieces of flair.
[my wife hates the CAR jokes...so I keep making them...and pile them on heavy each time she comes back from a deployment]
That sounds about right.
Wife and I were just talking about how the bullshit with awards needs to stop. Awards must be based on merit...not rank. Absolute horseshit.
Also, wearing flair is FOBBIT-level ghey. I’m glad we just drove around in our CARs and don’t have to worry about pieces of flair.
[my wife hates the CAR jokes...so I keep making them...and pile them on heavy each time she comes back from a deployment]
Army's first 2 rules of deployment....
Design at least 3 new campaign ribbons to wear
Design and buy brand new uniforms
I dont need accolades to do my job, I love being a medic, that's why I joined, but fuck. Giving a Bronze Star out for sitting at a desk is fucked. I look to see if there is a valor device attached, if not then I assume you sat on your ass.
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Wouldn't know I think I have less than 2 weeks ever combined with time spent on a fob baby
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