I see these troll posts and imagine a big greasy dude in his mothers basement covered in cheeto dust looking like a maniac.
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Yeah, and @giegs think we ought not to align with just the GOP....yeah, I'm sure we all want to sign up for Biden's outrageous anti-gun platform. NOT!
@giegs - have you actually read Biden's positions on gun rights? And if so, you still advocate gun owners align with other than the GOP? Wow....now that is some real cognitive dissonance right there, mate.
Interesting. I picture a group of Russian, Chinese, or Iranian intelligence operatives in a large computer work center laughing at the trouble and unrest that can be done with a handful of emotionally charged arguments on many different forums.I see these troll posts and imagine a big greasy dude in his mothers basement covered in cheeto dust looking like a maniac.
You seem to be misunderstanding me and are working admirably to have me defend claims I've never made. It's cute, but also a great demonstration of some of the more deeply rooted issues at play.
2A advocates have been making a decades long miscalculation by strictly aligning themselves with the GOP
Aligning gun rights explicitly with a political party and not working to build enthusiasm and advocacy within the opposing party (or at least their constituents) is a mistake, particularly when the demographic trends of the favored party have suggested its ever increasing irrelevance. This doesn't mean Dems like your rights, obviously they don't, but it does mean you should focus on more than one front if you want long term success.
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,’ I would have done it," Feinstein told Stahl.
"If I had my way, I would ban the possession of assault weapons anywhere in the United States of America, but there were not going to be the votes for that. This is a moderate law."
Thats easy........The Bill of Rights! Did I win?How about this.
every member submit an essay on what makes America great, wrong answers will be removed
There has to be some sort of political talk. Right wing political talk is all but being banned in normal social media sites and the news won’t talk about. Places like this are going to be the last hold outs of free exchange of information. How else will masses learn about possible gun bans and anti gun legislation? With out this site and a couple you tubers I would have never known that the ATF was actively trying to ban pistol braces a couple weeks ago. At the point we are no longer allowed to post anything right wing politics on the internet the time to gather together to stop it has already passed. We can’t self sensor to serve our overlords.I'm all for seeing less political rhetoric going on here. Michelle Obama already spoke about shutting down social networks that spread hate and/or violence..... I'd think all of us would rather have what Frank started this for us in the first place! Venting the political BS going on could be our downfall? Look how what happened this week in DC was spun? BLM and ANTIFA would still be their PROTESTING, TRASHING, AND BURNING anything in their path! Not gone in 90 minutes either! That's a fact, but they don't care to compare that now do they! We could however only post what Laws or Bills are coming up and for a way and/or means to prevent them. I have a friend on FB and most of her posts are Laws coming up in the State of Washington and she lists the phone numbers of who to call, or email and even form letters just to make it easy.
The Cliche "Talk is cheap" may now be more so than ever, while "Actions speak louder than words" and a means and ways to get done what's important to US as Americans will be our only way out of what's ahead?
I remember when a couple came X-County skiing on a subdivision I was developing during hunting season on 40 acres I owned. They noticed I was bow hunting, and my friend overheard them saying "lets mess up their hunting and make a lot of noise". Which they did.... I made the mistake of just thinking they'd ski on by and soon be on their merry way? I didn't want to get down from my tree stand and "have a talk".
I did though on their way back stop and have a chat with this guy and his wife......But this guy didn't believe I was the owner and wanted me arrested! Well when the cops arrived he was issued a ticket for trespassing, and I got the DNR involved for hunter harassment. Doing something within the confines of the law isn't always easy, but it can have a lasting effect.
There's more Bills that get passed then days in the year that affect everyone of us in some way...... The story of the American dream was my life as a child, what happens from here on out is anyones guess
Hmm... glad I got in when I did
So you suffer from cognizant disconnect? Being a liberal truely is a mental disease.Eh, shooting is great and I disagree with most of you on politics. Makes for interesting reading and gives me some insight into the meta some of you are operating in. All the inadvertant desire for safe spaces and group think on display from a group of rugged individualists is an amusing bonus.
So at least for me, less of an invasion and more of a trip to the zoo.
That sounds familiar.....Well we are ranked 49th for quality of public education...
Liberal tho? That's low.
In truth there have been two choices.That looks like the usual suspects you have messing with any large social site these days, not so much targeted based on the forum focus itself.
I have. Biden is terrible on almost everything he has an opinion on. Trump is significantly worse. You seem to be misunderstanding me and are working admirably to have me defend claims I've never made. It's cute, but also a great demonstration of some of the more deeply rooted issues at play. I'm just waiting on the Lion and Tin Man to show up at this point.
Aligning gun rights explicitly with a political party and not working to build enthusiasm and advocacy within the opposing party (or at least their constituents) is a mistake, particularly when the demographic trends of the favored party have suggested its ever increasing irrelevance. This doesn't mean Dems like your rights, obviously they don't, but it does mean you should focus on more than one front if you want long term success. But please, continue preaching to the choir and wondering why the congregation is shrinking. Be sure to hitch your wagon to issues that have nothing to do with 2A advocacy as well, that'll give you more room to maneuver and maximize your impact.
It's more tangentially related, but I'd check out Kilcullen's "Out of the Mountains: The Coming Age of the Urban Guerilla" for some insights into the types of mistakes I see being made.
All ya'll advocating for not acknowledging differences in ability sound like a bunch of 'commies'. Woops.
Lowlight: Let me know if you'd rather I stfu. Just passing the time, but it's your ball.
Proof that you just can't fix stupid. Though actually he is just a liberal troll that was perma-banned on AKFiles recently.Yeah, and @giegs think we ought not to align with just the GOP....yeah, I'm sure we all want to sign up for Biden's outrageous anti-gun platform. NOT!
@giegs - have you actually read Biden's positions on gun rights? And if so, you still advocate gun owners align with other than the GOP? Wow....now that is some real cognitive dissonance right there, mate.
You mean like bringing up a $220 toaster thread?Make no mistake ,their are probably some infiltrators in here trolling as we speak.
gotta keep an eye out for who just registered and the kind of post they start..
Guns, Big screen TV's, blunts, 40's, and fake boobies.How about this.
every member submit an essay on what makes America great, wrong answers will be removed
It's changing probably Monday I will have all these posts removed and you will only be able to talk politics in the 3 threads I posted or in the Private areas..
No more political debates running on an endless loop... it will be like that Election thread, hundreds of responses, if you have an issue it's your own fault for wandering in there.
I get it when it's every other thread you can't avoid it. I am making it avoidable
Proof that you just can't fix stupid. Though actually he is just a liberal troll that was perma-banned on AKFiles recently.
Yeah, you just "happened" to post the same word for word reply that he did right? You are him.Lol, what? Not a liberal or that troll you're talking about.
Nope just used the same flip reply to a conversation. That along with your location, politics and posting style makes it pretty plain you and Phx-muc are one and the same. Or if not you are both simply paid trolls reading from the same script. Though I lean towards the former rather than the latter on this as posting style is a dead giveaway for anyone that has seen you on both forums.Someone copy one of my posts? Wouldn't be the first time, but screenshots would be good to see.
This is an informational platform to discuss shooting and precision rifles, it‘s not a political site
The fact we allow it, is because of the attacks on our 2A rights, however that does not mean we need to wade into every political debate imaginable, hence the compartmentalizing of those topics.
As noted, there are people on here who’s job sensitivities can be a problem in this political climate. The conversations about the politics of the PRS will not get them in trouble, neither will discussing the Quick Change barrel systems out there, but talking about Red / Blue politics can...
Watch as these social media sites limit conservative speech, you are gonna see another run on forums as they start to shut gun groups down. That is next, this is just the first shot in a long war.
It should not be lost how quickly this happened, wait until the agenda narratives start, they already told you guns in all forms are on the chopping block. They want the internet closed off to all things gun related, this crack down is just the first step. Testing the limits, and clearly there is none, they took out the Presidents account.
If you can’t understand preparation and positions, you should refrain from commenting and watch.
Is it legal to mix your sci-fi that that 1138...
Political talk needs to be 500 post minimum before you can even see it. You shouldn’t be on the hide for political talk.
I don’t think even a pay wall will work because I’m sure plenty of reporters, troll masters, etc will pay the $15 to get behind the wall.
Maybe have advertised all political talk is banned then put it behind the pay wall.
Either way I think we need better OPSEC with our political talk. So much of what is said can come back to bit all our asses and needs to be harder to get too.
Shouldn’t come to this site solely for political talk.Test post to see if I qualify yet.
ETA: Yea No got a bit to go.![]()
Test post to see if I qualify yet.
ETA: Yea No got a bit to go.![]()
not related, but does a person know when they have been 'ignored'?That sounds familiar.....
This guy is Phx-muc that was just perma-banned over on AKFiles for being a liberal troll.
Unless the ignorer informs the ignoree they don't know.not related, but does a person know when they have been 'ignored'?
^^^^bingoThat sounds familiar.....
This guy is Phx-muc that was just perma-banned over on AKFiles for being a liberal troll.
thxUnless the ignorer informs the ignoree they don't know.
Nope just used the same flip reply to a conversation. That along with your location, politics and posting style makes it pretty plain you and Phx-muc are one and the same. Or if not you are both simply paid trolls reading from the same script. Though I lean towards the former rather than the latter on this as posting style is a dead giveaway for anyone that has seen you on both forums.
It's you and you are caught. This forum seems to be more accepting of your crap though so why the need to hide who you are here.
I've been seeing it on glocktalk pretty strong since the start of covid.
A troll shows up, older members respond to their troll crap, then troll plays the victim, appeals to the mods and gets the older member banned.
While I believe this is a conscious effort to remove people from their social media circles, I also think there is a more sinister end game to their trolling.
Almost every state haas talked about redflag laws and I believe some of these trolls are intending to goad people into saying threatening things to the troll so that they can be dox'd and turned into local law enforcement with the intent on using red flag laws to remove their guns.
I know this sounds paranoid, but our information is permanent and just waiting out here to hang us.
Got it, so baseless accusations based on your paranoia and anyone who openly disagrees with you must be a paid troll. You're adorable. Moron.
I will try to not cry myself to sleep tonight.Two more for the ignore list.
fify?Two more for the our purge of conservatives as we overthrow the Republic and replace it with whatever our communist overlords command list.
It. Was. Humor.Shouldn’t come to this site solely for political talk.
are we no longer doing "phrasing"?Definitely going to be an increase in baiting moving forward
so don't answer if they are looking for the best scope for their paint ball gun?![]()
I've grown suspicious of new accounts where their first questions aren't the typical "Mils vs Moa" and "What scope should I buy" but they dive right into political threads and take contrary positions.
Definitely going to be an increase in baiting moving forward and we all need to not take the bait.