Every citizen of this country has the obligation to respect the rights of every other citizen of this country. I have, for various reasons, told several employers to fuck off over the years. I made it clear to them that I was not going to do what they said. None of them ever fired me for it.
Geissele is apparently going full retard Hornady style
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You perceive it as purity.
Our, not you, opponents are the ones seeking thought purity.
Not the first time , I'd bet, you've shirked doing the hard things.
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No idea what hard things you are talking about. Yelling at people online for having wrong think isn't a huge sacrifice IMO.
Huh? I saw a few libs at the range around election time, but not really any since then. Parking lots are filled with pickup trucks with Trump stickers and American flags. Hot yoga doesn't qualify as arming up and training in my book.
Nothing about the recent riots seemed remotely organized or coordinated either, and the libs will to fight only seems to come out when they outnumber their victims by a factor of 5:1 or better. Otherwise they avoid any sort of physical altercation like the plague and retreat to the nearest safe space.
I don't see a highly motivated and coordinated threat. I see a bunch of whiny ass pussies being appeased by the Man. They're poking the bear. It's just a matter of time before said bear turns around and turns them into mince meat. I'm getting impatient.
Oh God this fuckstain again........
Classic deflection.
the left now calls Larry Elder a white supremist and you say we are irrational Stalinists in comparison.
The only reason we are in so much shit is because we suffered fools kindly for so long. We were tolerant when we shouldn't have been.
You are pretty much both the same, the difference is that the left focuses its fire outward, while the right focuses its fire inward. I don't expect you to understand that, because you clearly think that what is really a good idea is to have a tiny minority of people who think the same way you do, and then to cry foul when you lose over and over.
I mean that is exactly what the beginning of this thread and the entire Hornady ordeal were all about.
Oh God this fuckstain again....
I wont buy Nikes.
No idea if they could be the best footware I could ever buy.
I disagree with their slave manufacturing practices and embracing anti Americanism while at the same time being hypocritical ultra capitalists.
You may have the weak moral calibration to accept your immediate personal comforts at the expense of your long term viability but I think that makes you a dumb fuckstain.
If any company wants to proudly wrap themselves in the banner of "'Merica" while working undercover to undermine that which they use to reap profit from than fuck them........yes Black Rifle Coffee...Im thinking of you.
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” Nietzsche
Lefties always rage against what they themselves do not realize they actually are.
The ignore list comes in handy to filter the noise from the few who seem to just dislike Geissele and therefore push the false notion Geissele 'wronged their staff before seeing the light', and the other who can't delineate that we're anti-Hornady based on god evidence and not anti-Geissele because the evidence doesn't support such... Or he does see the difference and is just using it to make a deflective political attack against the most patriotic Americans.
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LOLOLOL My perch???
You mean the one where I do not get my geopolitical and geo-economics news of Geissele from some youtube page instead of Geissele themselves?
Notice how fast and easy it was for @TacticalDillhole to put up the official statement directly from Geissele?
Why do people need to be spoon fed information instead of feeding themselves?
Notice the OP has not deleted this thread even though it has been absolutely proven he is passing around BS information about a company in the industry? Why do you think that is?
IF you have to be spoon fed in order to know what is fake information vs real information then you probably should spend more time researching than watching youtube channels.
Sincerely,
Theis
They ALMOST got me with the URGI.
Then it was realized that it was a complete piece of shit with a huge design flaw.
After dodging that bullet, there was no need for me to ever look at them again.
Sure, but they are also subject to internal and external forces based on those policies. Which includes consumers deciding not to do business anymore. thing is, I give zero fucks where someone spends their money. For whatever reason, that's it...their decision.
Call it cancel culture etc,.. matters not to me.
It's like bring a knife to a gun fight. Better to bring something at least equal in force no? The only thing that will influence these companies is loss of money. Period. End of story.
Lefties use it all time, pretty effectively. But nope, not the right...they are above that...lmfao. the figurative knife to a gunfight. it makes zero sense. But again your decision.
Moreover, the basic reason companies are jumping on the vac bandwagon is simply hedging their bets to gain market advantage. Especially those lucrative govt, limitless dollars...the continuation of merger between govt and megacorps.
Nothing to do with employee and consumer safety or health.
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Meh, I like my Super duty, it performs well. To each their own. Hopefully my build will be better, I know the barrel coating will be
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Exactly. It always amazes me how some folks purport that free market capitalism only goes one way. Complaining, boycotting, “not forgetting”, “spreading the word” or just spending your dollars elsewhere are all valid free market capitalist solutions.
The so called and overused/misused term “cancel culture” is a free market solution. Though it may often be ugly in its application, as long as the government is not involved and there is nothing illegal being used as leverage,(i.e blackmail, extortion etc.) it is still free market capitalism. Groups of people can get together and say hey we don’t like how you dot your “i”s and the company is free to either capitulate or say “piss-off”.
That said, one would hope that anyone employing those solutions, is at the very least, properly informed....
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Let me throw this out there to the those thinking of boycotting, the howler monkeys, and the local Hitler youth fighting the "tough fight" of boycotting Geisselle and/or Hornady.
In the long view, why does attacking our allies help? Especially when this is a Nationwide issue? There is almost near unification that the mandates are illegal. And yet who are we targeting for action?
Our Friends and 2nd-Amendment Allies.
They didn't initiate the idea--they are caught like everyone.
Since there is a larger anti-mandate movement that includes people outside the 2nd-Amendment, why not find an anti-2nd amendment Company (Nike, Levis, Banks, etc) who enforces the mandate and go after them?
I mean this is seriously like threatening to invade England during WW2 because they wanted a Europe First strategy. "NO JAPAN ATTACKED US!!! AGREE WITH US OR WE WILL PUNISH YOU!!!"
There are plenty of companies that are enforcing mandates, why are we choosing to 'punish' our allies?
Yes, it is your money and your freedom.
Choose Wisely, and remember who your friends are and who your friends aren't
In the long view, why does attacking our allies help? Especially when this is a Nationwide issue? There is almost near unification that the mandates are illegal. And yet who are we targeting for action?
Our Friends and 2nd-Amendment Allies.
They didn't initiate the idea--they are caught like everyone.
Since there is a larger anti-mandate movement that includes people outside the 2nd-Amendment, why not find an anti-2nd amendment Company (Nike, Levis, Banks, etc) who enforces the mandate and go after them?
I mean this is seriously like threatening to invade England during WW2 because they wanted a Europe First strategy. "NO JAPAN ATTACKED US!!! AGREE WITH US OR WE WILL PUNISH YOU!!!"
There are plenty of companies that are enforcing mandates, why are we choosing to 'punish' our allies?
Yes, it is your money and your freedom.
Choose Wisely, and remember who your friends are and who your friends aren't
Sure. But if it’s those lucrative .gov dollars that’ll keep your business open what then?
Who is affected most by the consumer is retail (clothing stores, Best Buy, etc.), restaurants, and similar. Employee safety and health is obviously the facade. To companies that work on contracts the consumer is / are peanuts. No different than a large contractor having to meet Covid requirement in some form or another. (I get this in my arena.)
Based on the draconian policy imposed by our fantastic president with regards to government employees and companies with over 100 employees looming, the customer isn’t even going to matter because the “freedom to choose” alone could shut the business down. Maybe that’s the greater goal. Who knows.
You could spin it 100 ways and it’s still fucked up but the people chose supposedly… I want to know more about what it’s like to live under that loom of reality.
"In the long view, why does attacking our allies help?"
Are they allies if they go along with a policy of putting a potential poison into someone's body? Always gets me how people cannot see the parallels to what happened in WWII Germany. First it's starts with the mask, then vax. What next? The more of these companies that go along with this stuff, the harder it becomes to stop.
If I have to make a stand without the so called "allies" of the 2nd, then so be it. At least I made a stand. As I write this my wife is making the stand, and she will probably lose, at least she won't be a hypocrite like these companies that are too woke to show any balls.
Are they allies if they go along with a policy of putting a potential poison into someone's body? Always gets me how people cannot see the parallels to what happened in WWII Germany. First it's starts with the mask, then vax. What next? The more of these companies that go along with this stuff, the harder it becomes to stop.
If I have to make a stand without the so called "allies" of the 2nd, then so be it. At least I made a stand. As I write this my wife is making the stand, and she will probably lose, at least she won't be a hypocrite like these companies that are too woke to show any balls.
Obviously I wasn't talking about Nike. If you need to use them as your strawman, perhaps you are the one who needs to recalibrate the old compass. I was clear who and what I meant.
Now if she came with the purchase of their rifle I could understand the price hike.
Oh God this fuckstain again......
Typical Commie....when called out just claim we didn't understand what was meant.
Fuck Hornady or any company that mandates their employees body autonomy.
Fuck any company that supports any of this Commie shit.
Democrats, aka Communists, only focus fire outward?
Harvey Weinstein, Cuomo, Manchin and Sinema disagree.
It's time our tactics embrace "not with us, than against us"
Better wake up and look outside your immediate AO. They are impressively organized.
During the Minneapolis riots/protests they had guys on quads with radios running the streets calling out locations of the police. Others were on bikes. They had supply depots set up outside the area running supplies in. ( frozen water bottles, milk they were using for teargas, med support, protest sign distribution centers ect).
The training is at private locations, not open public ranges. It’s not a thing you can just walk into. Far left public ranges are also popping up. Purchased of body armor ppe ect ticking upward. Most of this is the far northwest ( I took a couple of advanced rifle training classes. A few of them popped up there. Blm slapped on the ar’s along with the related logos ect) Not that I viewed then as much of a threat. Well. One guy I did. A former navy corpsman.
Just because you don’t see it in your day to day life doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
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Apparently in Minne they had an aircraft with FLIR also.......the opposition is well equipped and indoctrinated.
Quite honestly, your tactics are the tactics of losers everywhere. I prefer people who don't lose.
Wild. I’m not seeing any of this in NC. Our local public ranges are all die hard conservative. Lots of younger gentlemen too. I haven’t heard about any top secret training camps here.
Didn’t BLM shoot two of their own and zero conservatives? That’s pretty awful. Kyle was only 17 and went 3-0.
Handing out water bottles, protest signs and milk isn’t what I would normally consider being organized either. BLM chapters are all over the place with a loose (nonexistent?) leadership structure.
Maybe I’m making the mistake of underestimating the enemy, but in my neck of the woods there ain’t shit to be worried about. These fools are loading 40 S&W mags with 9mm over here or shooting sideways.
Sucks to be in the NW I guess.
This probably goes over your head, but the American political system is a series of median voter contests. So, you are going to have to live with the fact that parts of your coalition don't share your views on things like gun control, abortion etc, or you are going to have to live as somebody who has no political power. So you might hate Romney, Graham and Mitch, though the latter is a damn American hero, but your choice is always going to come down to what can be smuggled by the median guy in the house, and even worse, the 40th worst guy in the senate. And they need to convince their median voter, so the best you get is, probably, somewhere around a moderately conservative voter in the Los Angeles suburbs on a relatively good Republican year. The Democrats are learning that now with Manchin and Sinema, as I told you they would, and as of course you assured me they wouldn't (lol.)
So your choice is to demonize and repel everybody to the left of you, and frankly you repel quite a few people to the right of you, or you can try to build a coalition to start getting what you want, and if you elect competent people, you can grow that coalition. And before you tell me it is naive and that this is all fixed and controlled or whatever, the fact remains that, even if it is, you still cannot win by calling possible (sometimes) allies communists and baby killers, because it feels good as you sit impotent in your far left state raging at the machine.
Adults deal with reality. That is why people who act as adults have power, because they see reality and how to shape it to their advantage rather than to their disadvantage. Obviously we have a good example of that last night, where Youngkin put together a winning coalition of pretty diverse voters with regard to ideology. I am sure there were assault weapons ban folks in there, pro-abortion people, and yet I didn't see him trying to run them off as commies and enemies. Makes you think.... if you can.
That's what you think.
The left hasn't seen a response yet. When they do, it will be a bloodbath and not the way you apparently think.
Antifa is well coordinated. Of that you should have no doubt.
What their appetite for a real fight with a hard opponent is remains to be seen but I'd wager good money that they won't be so tough when push comes to shove.
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Yes, some of us are already aware of their tactics.
Like I said before they haven't met a peer adversary yet. They will rue the day when they do.
Can you name a peer adversary that could match there logistics, comms and support that the right has? One that can go today, not months from now. I don’t.
Don’t get me wrong. Once the right eventually organizes I’m sure they would mop the floor. What I’m saying is they are far ahead of where the right currently is.
IMO.
Hey--Be nice to Yurtle The Turtle. What has he ever done?
Besides 3 Supreme Court Nominations:
Filibustered Garland-> Gorsuch
Nuke option -> Kavanaugh
Nuke option #2 -> Barrett
You may not be super thirilled with the choices, but he got the openings and pushed the votes--would you rather have Garland x3?
Still looks like a turtle. Man ran those nominations tho
Besides 3 Supreme Court Nominations:
Filibustered Garland-> Gorsuch
Nuke option -> Kavanaugh
Nuke option #2 -> Barrett
You may not be super thirilled with the choices, but he got the openings and pushed the votes--would you rather have Garland x3?
Still looks like a turtle. Man ran those nominations tho
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