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Biden has said multiple times suspects should be shot in the leg / knee.
So I’ll ask to those here that are very proficient in firearms AND have experience stopping bad guys with the same, under stress, just how much harder / more risky is it to shoot for the leg or knee than center of mass with a rifle or pistol?
Straight up question.
Kyle Rittenhouse shot a attacking criminal with a single shot, right as the criminal pointed a gun at him, disarming the attacking criminal (in many ways), better shot placement and discipline than most PD, included the spectactical guys, only to get called a “white supremest” by The Big Guy![]()
Retired Military Operator who was working as RO explained a shotgun with bird shot is all you need for home defense. One shot to lower abdomen area will knock anyone down, once the bleeding stops dial 911 and you should be fine.
. He's still carrying a few bb's around with him, one stopped too close to operate on against the main artery in his neck.
Guess that is why my dad kept a Winchester Defender next the the bed. You don’t have to aim to amputate body parts!
Well in some States it's illegal to intentionally shoot to maim
A shotgun is likely to sever a leg a closer range if hit. "
I actually got into an argument with a young coworker about this several years ago. I'd already been carrying concealed for a few years, and trained a few times a week at the local range. I finally got it through his thick skull after a while, and to be quite honest I wasn't very nice about it, either.
I don’t recommend a shotgun for personal defense but have personally chambered a round in an 870 and the one I chambered the round for turned and ran which was good because the safety was off and I had good sight alignment. Still don’t recommend it though.That's one of the top fudd quotes you hear, right after "just the sound of racking it will scare them off".
Lots of people that have never patterned a 00 Buck load out of an 18” barrel believe this shit and it could cost them under the wrong circumstances.Anyone who says you don't have to aim a shotgun is dumb.
This entire discussion is pointless. As soon as they can create a true majority, the far left is going to eliminate all statues regarding criminal offenses. hence, no laws to break, no criminals.
Not your ordinary range that your use to, they had to go through a period of removing gang members from practicing there as they sort of took over the place. Owner finally cleaned them out had to install live cameras hooked into the State Police.Place was open 24/7 back in the day which probably lead to some of the problems they were having.That sounds like a retired military operator that now works as a range officer story.
Latrine operator?Retired Military Operator who was working as RO explained a shotgun with bird shot is all you need for home defense. One shot to lower abdomen area will knock anyone down, once the bleeding stops dial 911 and you should be fine.
Lots of people that have never patterned a 00 Buck load out of an 18” barrel believe this shit and it could cost them under the wrong circumstances.
Yes? Whats your question?Latrine operator?
When you look at the split times of even experienced shotgun shooters they may or may not get the opportunity to send that second group of 9 in a 2 way situation.…At least with the 00 in a defensive shotgun you have the opportunity to miss 63 times instead of 6.
I love you and not just because you got a purty mouf and can squeal real good!Yes? Whats your question?
It was a serious question. Thanks for the replies.
Got into Thanksgiving “discussion “ with several including a left-of-Bernie relative who said “no guns” then you shouldn’t ‘be able to shoot a burglar / attacker except in the leg’ as Biden noted. And another 1/2 hour diatribe on related BS.
She noted since I have “never shot someone in the leg or elsewhere”, it was noted I was not qualified to answer. Like she was, having never held a gun.
So I said I’d ask guys that had. That shut her up for then and hopefully the rest of today before she flys back.
Now I’m thinking a peace offering to her, maybe I should just gift wrap one of my peashooters and a firearms training gift certificate and slip it in her carry on luggage as a Christmas gift?![]()
I think Joe's mind is concentrating on the groin.
Speaking of shooting with a shot gun. I had a friend catch another guy in bed with his wife, guy takes off running up the street, friend shot a bird-shot load his direction, at 100 yards away a single bb hit his heart and killed him. Friend did 20 years. Claimed he only wanted to scare him.
That said, I do have rubber slugs and buckshot for non lethal purposes, but if I'm in defense mode, center mass would be the only option in my head.
Most of the time I have an American Derringer DA38 in .357 in my pocket, even ported it shoots high, I prctice point shooting, I try to shoot at crotch level and hit center mass. Can't hit shit trying to aim it.
fudd derp
My brother chikn know some shit bout some shitYes? Whats your question?
Dude took his anger out on the wrong person, his wife was the one who said yes.....Speaking of shooting with a shot gun. I had a friend catch another guy in bed with his wife, guy takes off running up the street, friend shot a bird-shot load his direction, at 100 yards away a single bb hit his heart and killed him. Friend did 20 years. Claimed he only wanted to scare him.
That said, I do have rubber slugs and buckshot for non lethal purposes, but if I'm in defense mode, center mass would be the only option in my head.
Most of the time I have an American Derringer DA38 in .357 in my pocket, even ported it shoots high, I prctice point shooting, I try to shoot at crotch level and hit center mass. Can't hit shit trying to aim it.
My answer to your question is not to argue with morons.It was a serious question. Thanks for the replies.
Got into Thanksgiving “discussion “ with several including a left-of-Bernie relative who said “no guns” then you shouldn’t ‘be able to shoot a burglar / attacker except in the leg’ as Biden noted. And another 1/2 hour diatribe on related BS.
She noted since I have “never shot someone in the leg or elsewhere”, it was noted I was not qualified to answer. Like she was, having never held a gun.
So I said I’d ask guys that had. That shut her up for then and hopefully the rest of today before she flys back.
Now I’m thinking a peace offering to her, maybe I should just gift wrap one of my peashooters and a firearms training gift certificate and slip it in her carry on luggage as a Christmas gift?![]()
I did shoot a doe from a jonboat floating the Neuse River (Totally legal in Johnston County NC if the deer isn’t swimming) a few years ago and one pellet hit her, right in the spine, and dropped her. About 60 yards, shouldn’t have shot at her at all.
I am simply not practiced enough at running a shotgun in a defense manner to rely on one. It takes lots of practice to run one fast and well enough to trump a carbine. I do have a beautiful Stevens trench gun I wish to run better.
The original "Street Sweeper"!!
Oh yeah, I know and even that was on the ragged edge.A buckshot pellet. Big difference from birdshot.
Shots still in a group the size of a slug across the room practically, why aim when you can just yeet it and hope for the best?I don’t recommend a shotgun for personal defense but have personally chambered a round in an 870 and the one I chambered the round for turned and ran which was good because the safety was off and I had good sight alignment. Still don’t recommend it though.
Lots of people that have never patterned a 00 Buck load out of an 18” barrel believe this shit and it could cost them under the wrong circumstances.
Kyle Rittenhouse shot a attacking criminal with a single shot, right as the criminal pointed a gun at him, disarming the attacking criminal (in many ways), better shot placement and discipline than most PD, included the spectactical guys, only to get called a “white supremest” by The Big Guy![]()
Shooting the gun is common when your brain is screaming "He has a fucking gun!".
Fixating on a gun is pretty normal from what I understand. I read "lots" of people get shot in the arm/hand in gun fights at close range.Kyle Rittenhouse, IMO, had tunnel-vision, and was focused solely on the gun in Lefty’s hand. He saw the gun as the threat, and shot towards it. Again, IMO, Kyle Rittenhouse was very lucky with that shot. If he had missed the arm, he would probably be dead now.
Meh... that will get you arrested.It was a serious question. Thanks for the replies.
Got into Thanksgiving “discussion “ with several including a left-of-Bernie relative who said “no guns” then you shouldn’t ‘be able to shoot a burglar / attacker except in the leg’ as Biden noted. And another 1/2 hour diatribe on related BS.
She noted since I have “never shot someone in the leg or elsewhere”, it was noted I was not qualified to answer. Like she was, having never held a gun.
So I said I’d ask guys that had. That shut her up for then and hopefully the rest of today before she flys back.
Now I’m thinking a peace offering to her, maybe I should just gift wrap one of my peashooters and a firearms training gift certificate and slip it in her carry on luggage as a Christmas gift?![]()
The word.(YAWN)
Yall really wanna kick this thread into popcorn popping territory, where feelings will be bruised, crushed and generally smash vaginas?
Cause I've got the stuff....just say the word.
If folks search back on this topic... there are about 4 more versions of it. And they all turn into popcorn mills.The word.
Still a small hit box compared to center mass. I've met multiple people shot in the head at close range who it didn't really do anything.Yea you aim at my legs while I aim at your medulla oblongata......
Y'all promise me something, if any of y'all shoot me for some reason don't try and fuck me after greengo juan style.