If the action is anything like their meh AR stuff, I'd wait and not be a guinea pig. Once they are out in the wild for a while, make a decision then.
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View thread Contact supportThat’s what I said when the Ruger RPR came out. Then it took 2 years to find one in stock.Once they are out in the wild for a while, make a decision then.
I like to fool around and find out. I'll report either way with my findings.That's the equivalent of waiting on a savage. You could have found a Tikka in that time and had a much better rifle that holds it's value.
Exactly.How does it run once you pull the trigger? A dropped firing pin really changes the bolt lift since you're now cocking it too.
Take it out of the vise too.Exactly.
Name a gun that doesn’t have a light bolt lift once it is already cocked lol
vise and already cocked...doesn't show me anything
I posted this in the big Solus thread. Cocking is fine. Im not holding the gun at all, its sitting on a bipod and a rear bag. More than happy with the bolt lift.Take it out of the vise too.
It looks like a gem compared to the ARC Archimedes.Well... if the fact it looks like ass means they cut costs on asthetics that my be a good thing. I notice the bolt is not fluted. It could be a good action without all the money spent making it look pretty. I watched some videos of it. The cocking sounds crisp and it seems to be smooth. I used a 737r on my last build but I can save 500 bucks and put it towards a chassis...why not as long as I'm not sacrificing accuracy.
Like their AR's, I'm sure they're for the poors. Can't wait for the inevitable "I'm having problems with my POS frankengun" threads to infest the bolt action forum like they do on the semi auto side.....
I posted this in the big Solus thread. Cocking is fine. Im not holding the gun at all, its sitting on a bipod and a rear bag. More than happy with the bolt lift.
Its what I do best!You cocked that real good!![]()
Would you agree it cocks like any other smooth cocking action? I can only imagine a primary extraction setup like the ARC Coup...Its what I do best!
I think there are inevitably degrees to everything. At the very least it should only ever be compared to other 60 degree actions. The cocking on my Solus is excellent, im flat out impressed. I have other gripes. I think they went too far with the contouring on the underside of the bolt. It interacts with the raceway in strange ways, but i haven't worked that out yet.Would you agree it cocks like any other smooth cocking action? I can only imagine a primary extraction setup like the ARC Coup...
I think $1,099+I think there are inevitably degrees to everything. At the very least it should only ever be compared to other 60 degree actions. The cocking on my Solus is excellent, im flat out impressed. I have other gripes. I think they went too far with the contouring on the underside of the bolt. It interacts with the raceway in strange ways, but i haven't worked that out yet.
I had two Arch actions here when they first came out. Super cool, and the Coup should be that much better. I wonder what the price will go to after the introduction. Im guessing $1100 or thereabouts.
Bella said they always drop $100 for introductory to garner interest. It's nice of them to still do that when there is plenty of interest already.I think there are inevitably degrees to everything. At the very least it should only ever be compared to other 60 degree actions. The cocking on my Solus is excellent, im flat out impressed. I have other gripes. I think they went too far with the contouring on the underside of the bolt. It interacts with the raceway in strange ways, but i haven't worked that out yet.
I had two Arch actions here when they first came out. Super cool, and the Coup should be that much better. I wonder what the price will go to after the introduction. Im guessing $1100 or thereabouts.
I certainly hope to have more hold on her in the field. Even though I can't get ahold of myself most times!But you used your thumb to brace it…… just kidding
I'm just trying to keep things realistic. The multiple actions I played with were not even remotely as nice as some of the comments here are about it. This action's main competition will be the Origin, and I believe the Origin is a much nicer product in every way. Not saying that because I am a fan either.I know I shouldn't be but, I am impressed by some of the ridiculous comments in the various Aero threads. If we took some of these posts at face value no one would ever try anything new or bring any new products to market.
The people speaking better about it here are not talking about the SHOT examples you felt, but the actions they bought.I'm just trying to keep things realistic. The multiple actions I played with were not even remotely as nice as some of the comments here are about it. This action's main competition will be the Origin, and I believe the Origin is a much nicer product in every way. Not saying that because I am a fan either.
I really wanted to like the Solus. I was excited to see it at SHOT but was just not impressed.
he also has a "Bighorn" logo as profile pic, just sayinThe people speaking better about it here are not talking about the SHOT examples you felt, but the actions they bought.
Watched a video on YouTube, and a guy says that the nitrided bolt is already showing some wear. Anything with yours?Its what I do best!
Mine is. That's the problem with "colored" bolts. Bolts that aren't silver. Silver bolts hide all the scratches colored bolts show. Whether that be a treated bolt, or a coated bolt.Watched a video on YouTube, and a guy says that the nitrided bolt is already showing some wear. Anything with yours?
nitride isn't a coatingMine is. That's the problem with coated bolts.
That was a good point of order. Glad you caught me slipping using a general term to explain a point. I changed my post so there is no confusion between treated and coated for those that might not know.nitride isn't a coating
The black on the nitrided parts is a byproduct of the treating process. It comes off pretty quick, the metal still has the surface hard properties.Watched a video on YouTube, and a guy says that the nitrided bolt is already showing some wear. Anything with yours?
I knew it was a treatment, but was unaware it was okay if it came off. Thanks for the clarification!The black on the nitrided parts is a byproduct of the treating process. It comes off pretty quick, the metal still has the surface hard properties.
That would be a slaughter, they shouldn't be compared.It would be cool if someone with a Defiance or BAT etc. could post a vid of theirs cocking with firing pin dropped. Then we could see the differences.
I still want to see!That would be a slaughter, they shouldn't be compared.
I understand inflation and supply chain issues, but defiance jacked up their prices. I bought a tenacity under like $900 last year. Now they are $1600. So I don't think they should be comparable. Just my 2 cents.That would be a slaughter, they shouldn't be compared.
What have you shot in the past to compare it too?View attachment 8068874
Smooth operator! Soulless like it's owner....
Ran a mag of loaded rounds through her a few times. Silky smooth feeding and ejection was strong. .243AI
Promise to get it out tomorrow!
TriggerTech 700 Special is saweet!
Savages!What have you shot in the past to compare it too?
Seriously:Savages!![]()
great feedback, now please buy a CDG and fill us in on your thoughts in that one tooI received one of these and finally made time to look it over.
I figured I would send some of the bolt parts off for IonBond with a large batch of other parts already going and then barrel it up for a class loaner rifle to see how it holds up.
I have not fired any rounds through this action yet but already have some opinions*.
*It is noted that my opinion is worth exactly the price you are paying to read this right now…..
Regarding some posts comparing the “feel” of a SOLUS cycling to another brand of action that has already had thousands of cycles.
That is retarded.
Cycling an action many times is a big deal in smoothing out the feel as the bolt unlocks, cycles back and forth and then goes back into battery.
Zero points given to anyone’s feedback on such a comparison.
Regarding some posts comparing the “feel” and force needed to cock a SOLUS to another brand of action that has a 2-lug/90 degree design.
That is retarded.
3 lug actions must attempt to get the same amount of primary extraction camming done with 33% less lug and handle boss rotation. More rotational force needed to accomplish the same rearward movement via the cam surface.
Zero points given to anyone’s feedback on such a comparison.
My perception of the action.
Pros:
Very good receiver and bolt body design.
Great surface finish with few machine marks.
Good bolt stop design.
Good trigger hangar design.
Generous ejection port.
Force to lift bolt during cocking is very favorable compared to similar 3 lug actions.
Double cocking piece design provides 2 separate cam surfaces 180 degrees apart at the rear of the bolt. This allows the camming operation work to be shared across 2 equal camming surfaces. Pretty smart.
Bottom mag feed cut and ramp in the bottom of the receiver is well done.
Cons:
The bolt head has 2 ejectors. Both are too close to the extractor.
Both are too short to operate smoothly in their host holes under repeated load. Both have springs that are too short to allow smooth movement across the ejector’s travel.
Simply moving their location to the other side of the breech face would double the amount of leverage they could provide in relation to the pivot point of the extractor.
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Both ejectors have no chamfer at the rear face which when combined with their short length and no center spring guide feature allows the ejectors to try to twist and bite in their respective holes.
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The existing bolt head has ample room and material available to change the ejector position, go to a larger diameter/ deeper depth hole that would allow a Rem700’ish ejector with spring guide feature and longer spring. Even a single ejector with such a proven design and location would far outperform their current double ejector design.
The Extractor is small and is not smooth in its movement. I believe the spring needs to be longer and the host hole deeper for a smoother function within the load range it will live at.
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My current feeling is that they did a LOT of things right with this design.
Seemingly all the hard shit was designed and machined quite well and then they dropped the ball with the ejector and extractor details.
Both are going to be hard to service.
Both are going to cause issues and make their phone ring.
Both could be addressed and improved upon at the same or less production $.
When these bolt parts get back from IonBond, we will run the crap out of it and see if any of my worries are warranted.
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Cons:
The bolt head has 2 ejectors. Both are too close to the extractor.
Both are too short to operate smoothly in their host holes under repeated load. Both have springs that are too short to allow smooth movement across the ejector’s travel.
Simply moving their location to the other side of the breech face would double the amount of leverage they could provide in relation to the pivot point of the extractor.
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Calls another person a retard for giving his opinion...then goes on to give his own opinion on same subject, comparing solus 3 lug design to unnamed action, so as to not be able to compare literally anything. Congratulations youre a douche bag, and you played yourself.![]()