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Create a channel Learn moreEeeeesh!!! I’m a poor!! You’re trying to break me!! Hahai'd get a FLY-9 but i'm a TBAC guy
Otter Creek Labs Lithium 9mm was designed specifically for 9mm PCC's and his test gun was an MP5. So... Yeah, it was designed to run perfect on an MP5/SP5/AP5.Got a killer deal on a AP5 from MKE…. I’ve never farted with pistol cal cans or mp5’s but I’m obsessed with this little bastard. It’s pretty badass. I’m thinking a Omega 9k… any good suggestions?
I own a Rugged Obsidian 9 for a SP5. It’s pretty nice and the tri lug mount is awesome.
However, the baffles are stainless (super tough) but the tube is aluminum, and from what I’ve read, using CLR soak to loosen the crud up when cleaning is not really recommended with stainless as it will slowly etch/get eaten away. And definitely don’t use CLR on aluminum as it eats it.
Not the biggest deal unless you are a heavy user + heavy cleaner.
But if I had to do it over, I’d strongly consider a full titanium can as they are generally impervious to CLR. Even though I tend towards user serviceable cans like the Obsidian 9, cleaning them is a pain and a big perk for TBAC cans (almost all are sealed) is they offer one free cleaning a year.
So…I suggest the Fly 9 with a third party tri-lug. They suggest a couple different brands on their product page for the Fly 9.
In my view that’s the easy button for something that is well-neigh impossible to resell.
Yeah, it’s a nice can. But the problem is if you cannot get the baffles out. Can’t give it a CLR soak. Has that happened to you? I haven’t tried to open it up yet.I have 6 Rugged cans...including the obsidian.... I have had zero issues with clr and turns my baffles back to brand new. I do not soak the tube or end caps. CLR will eat anything! Don't leave it in their longer than necessary and rinse properly. I have zero issues, damage, problems.
LOVE LOVE LOVE my Obsidian K config on my MP5 with my 147 and 165gr N340 subs. Had mine out last week.
Cousin uses a 9k on his 9mm pcc, it’s a pretty nice match in that size and style of rifle. Can’t say whether it’s better or worse than any comparable models but we have no complaints with it.Got a killer deal on a AP5 from MKE…. I’ve never farted with pistol cal cans or mp5’s but I’m obsessed with this little bastard. It’s pretty badass. I’m thinking an Omega 9k… any good suggestions?
It's a round chunk of flat rubber with a small "X" cut in the center of it to help the bullet pass through it. They are typically located in the end-cap of suppressors (that are wipe-compatible). And they must be replaced after about 10-25 shots, depending on the caliber and power of the cartridge being shot. What it does, is it helps seal-up the gasses inside the can after the bullet passes through it, helping to make things extra-quiet for clandestine ops...Like retiring high value marks at close ranges, where true ambiguity is key for your own survival making it out alive.Excuse my idiocracy…. What in the heck are “wipes”? I’ve had rifle cans for years, but have never heard of this.
think Bond quiet...for 2 shotsExcuse my idiocracy…. What in the heck are “wipes”? I’ve had rifle cans for years, but have never heard of this.
Yeah, it’s a nice can. But the problem is if you cannot get the baffles out. Can’t give it a CLR soak. Has that happened to you? I haven’t tried to open it up yet.
With my Banish 30 full-titanium can that’s no problem as I just soaked it in CLR for days when I waited too long between cleanings and they got stuck. I do not soak the stainless muzzle threads due to slow etching (Frank Green of Bartlien talked about a test with CLR and stainless and it does indeed etch stainless).
Then I used their awesome “baffle jack” tool to effortlessly press the baffles out to clean further.
Anyway, suppressors are sort of a lifetime purchase plus take forever to get so do it right the first time.
I don't shoot pistols much, nor do I shoot .22LR through anything other than my rimfire suppressors... But I've never had to clean my Obsidian 45. Still looks good and not caked-up or anything.No, I've never had an issue getting baffles out. And per Rugged, cleaning on their cans other than 22lr is not needed frequently. I have found this to be true and I've had mine since the first surge and Obsidian were released..
I don't shoot pistols much, nor do I shoot .22LR through anything other than my rimfire suppressors... But I've never had to clean my Obsidian 45. Still looks good and not caked-up or anything.
This is the explanation I didn’t know I needed. Sounds like just the thing I need for larping in the basement!It's a round chunk of flat rubber with a small "X" cut in the center of it to help the bullet pass through it. They are typically located in the end-cap of suppressors (that are wipe-compatible). And they must be replaced after about 10-25 shots, depending on the caliber and power of the cartridge being shot. What it does, is it helps seal-up the gasses inside the can after the bullet passes through it, helping to make things extra-quiet for clandestine ops...Like retiring high value marks at close ranges, where true ambiguity is key for your own survival making it out alive.
Not many cans are setup to run wipes. The Dead Air Wolfman is setup from the factory to run wipes. You can buy spare wipes from them, but they have to stay at your local dealer, because the retards at the ATF reclassified wipes as "suppressor parts" and must be regulated. You can only keep ONE wipe in your possession at a time, according to the dicks at the AFT.This is the explanation I didn’t know I needed. Sounds like just the thing I need for larping in the basement!
The Obsidian cans are nice, but if you want it for a PCC, the Dead Air Wolfman is my suggestion if you want wipes. My buddy as an SP5 and a Wolfman, and with subs, it's stupid-quiet. But if you don't want to do much LARPing, the Otter Creek Lithium is one of the quietest PCC 9mm cans that PEW Science has tested. So are all of his centerfire rifle cans, in their respective categories. You should check them out. The hype is real.The obsidian 9 was also on my radar simply for the modularity.
Hell yeah. I’ll check it out. Thanks for the info. I’m also gonna check out more about wipes cause I am intrigued! Does the wolfman come with a trilug, or does it need a separate adaptor/endcapThe Obsidian cans are nice, but if you want it for a PCC, the Dead Air Wolfman is my suggestion if you want wipes. My buddy as an SP5 and a Wolfman, and with subs, it's stupid-quiet. But if you don't want to do much LARPing, the Otter Creek Lithium is one of the quietest PCC 9mm cans that PEW Science has tested. So are all of his centerfire rifle cans, in their respective categories. You should check them out. The hype is real.
Here's a couple of my threads with my personal experience with them (I don't have a Lithium, as I don't shoot 9mm much, so my Obsidian 45 is enough for me)...
Suppressors - *** NEW *** Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen L & S .30 caliber Suppressors
Well, my new Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L & Hydrogen-S cans made it to the SOT on Form 3. I got to get in a few test shots this afternoon through my Remington 700 5R .260 Rem with the KeyMount Brake/KeyMo setup. *** Video will be coming soon on the YT channel, and will be posted here when it...www.snipershide.comSuppressors - *** NEW *** Otter Creek Labs Polonium 5.56 Suppressor - First Shots!
New video is up with my new Otter Creek Labs Polonium 5.56 suppressor! This is the quietest 5.56 suppressor I've ever shot, and it sounds amazing! As always, weapon & suppressor specs, and my personal opinions are in the description box of the video.www.snipershide.com
I have a thread showcasing them, and you can hear them on my YouTube channel, if you want to subscribe and watch?
I think you have to buy the Tri-Lug separate. But I do suggest not going budget on a suppressor. The YHM cans kind of suck, and so do SilencerCo cans. The SiCo Octanes were having severe QC issues several years ago, with baffles and end caps not being welded on straight, off-center machined baffle stacks and end caps causing strikes, etc... It was a real shitshow. I would strongly suggest not wasting your money on anything SilencerCo or YHM. The YHM cans are well built, they're just not very quiet. And the whole point of a suppressor is to suppress...Blast, flash, and sound signature. If it doesn't do any/all of those things very well, then, IMO, it's not worth the $200 tax stamp.Hell yeah. I’ll check it out. Thanks for the info. I’m also gonna check out more about wipes cause I am intrigued! Does the wolfman come with a trilug, or does it need a separate adaptor/endcap
For PCC's like the MP5...Yes, the Wolfman is the better option.Did the wolfman pass up the GhostM? Or
For PCC's like the MP5...Yes, the Wolfman is the better option.
Internal volume...And intended purpose design. The Wolfman was made and designed specifically for PCC's. The Ghost was designed for pistols, but CAN work on PCC's as well.Why? Ghost has a k configuration too and can run wipes.
Does the wolfman come with a trilug, or does it need a separate adaptor/endcap
Actually KeyMo/KeyMicro muzzle devices are both able to be used if you have a regular (full-size) KeyMo adapter on your can. I don't think it's backwards compatible with KeyMicro adapter with KeyMo muzzle device, but you might need to check with DA about that.It comes with a 1/2x28 thread adapter. If you want trilug, you'll have to order DA Part# 444, which will screw right in to the breech end of the Wolfman. And start looking for one from every source that carries them the moment you decide to go with the Wolfman, as they don't come in stock often. And when they do, they go quick.
Another other thing about the Wolfman - It *is* rated for some rifle calibers as long as you use a KeyMicro muzzle brake. I didn't really see this as a 'feature' since then I'd have to take the trilug adapter off the suppressor and replace it with the KeyMicro adapter ($250) when switching weapon platforms, which must also use KeyMicro muzzle devices. I've got other cans for that. I just mention it because it *is* an option.
How-to/Source video for replacement wipes
It does have a bit of downrange echo (as you can hear in the video), but at the gun, it's ridiculously quiet. No hearing pro needed at all. The roller delayed blowback design really helps dwell time to avoid any port pop.I also run a Rugged Obsidian 45 in K config on my MP5 clone PTR 9KT with my 165gr sub loads. Runs like a dream and stupid quiet
It does have a bit of downrange echo (as you can hear in the video), but at the gun, it's ridiculously quiet. No hearing pro needed at all. The roller delayed blowback design really helps dwell time to avoid any port pop.
Yes, running the Rugged 9mm Tri-Lug mount in mine. They have a 9mm and 45 version, but they both will fit in the 45 can. Get the 9mm version if you’re running it on an MP5…It’s spec’d for the H&K tri-lug to fit really nicely with minimal play.You using 3lug? I'm running the Rugged 3 lug on mine
Yes, running the Rugged 9mm Tri-Lug mount in mine. They have a 9mm and 45 version, but they both will fit in the 45 can. Get the 9mm version if you’re running it on an MP5…It’s spec’d for the H&K tri-lug to fit really nicely with minimal play.
MP5s are very low on backpressure, even with traditional cans. Here, I’m shooting my AP5 with a Wolfman and a Super Safety (so full auto rates of fire) and I’m not noticing any blowback.So I have a MP5 clone on the way and have a question about a can for it. Is the action affected by backpressure like an AR is? I'm wondering if a flow through design or bigger can is better (noticed a few people running a 45) or is the roller delay action not an issue.
I have flow through cans on my DI rifles and prefer it that way but this is my first time owning an MP5 clone.
MP5s are very low on backpressure, even with traditional cans. Here, I’m shooting my AP5 with a Wolfman and a Super Safety (so full auto rates of fire) and I’m not noticing any blowback.