Is The Silencer Shop still in business?

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Every can on their website is either Out of Stock or Back Ordered and when you call wanting to talk to someone you get put on eternal Hold listening to elevator music.

I finally called one of their distributors and asked the same question anf the dufas fed me a line of BS then told me he just so happened to have the exact silencer I was looking for except it was a different brand.

He in fact said it was what the can I wanted was modeled after. I asked if it was a direct thread on like the can I was after was and he BS'd somemore and I didn't get a straight answer. I asked what the decible rating was since it was what the can I wanted was copied after and he said he didn't pay attention to decible ratings, that thats not important in silencers. I asked what the length was since the can I'm after needed to be 6.25 and he said his was 5.75.

I told him that isn't the original design of the can I'm after and he was just your typical behind the counter gunscum trying to sell something and hung up.
 
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I ran into this issue with them recently. Its my understanding that their inventory dipped super low after the big rush when individual approvals sped way up. So they are mostly working from home as they don't need to be in the shop except to turn around ship Form 3 transfers. I got a distributor to call the direct cell they had, and I followed up with an email. It got resolved same week.
 
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They are still in business. They have 4 pages of in stock silencers. With the very short turn around on individual forms, most any halfway decent silencer is currently out of stock most places.

Can't speak to the being on hold except that with the current buying rush on silencers there's probably a ton of people calling Silencer Shop for a myriad of things.

And the rest....that's just sales people being sales people. Annoying, but that's not a Silencer Shop issue.
 
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With the approvals so fast, everything is blown out everywhere for the most part. SS is so visible with their kiosks and history of being the "easy mode" for stamps that it's no surprise. I would sign up for in stock notifications from other vendors like capitolarmory or hansohn brothers. What can in particular are you after?
 
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jabonra said:
With the approvals so fast, everything is blown out everywhere for the most part. SS is so visible with their kiosks and history of being the "easy mode" for stamps that it's no surprise. I would sign up for in stock notifications from other vendors like capitolarmory or hansohn brothers. What can in particular are you after?
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Griffon Armament GP5 in 5.56. It would be a direct thread w/ pin and weld on a 10.5 bbl.
 
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Rio Precision Gunworks said:
They are still in business. They have 4 pages of in stock silencers. With the very short turn around on individual forms, most any halfway decent silencer is currently out of stock most places.

Can't speak to the being on hold except that with the current buying rush on silencers there's probably a ton of people calling Silencer Shop for a myriad of things.

And the rest....that's just sales people being sales people. Annoying, but that's not a Silencer Shop issue.
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Yeah, I know. I do most of my gun buying online and haven't been in any LGS in years but the fuckhead behind the counter let me know nothings changed.

I check SS site every couple of days and haven't seen this four pages of in stock suppressors you speak of, at least not in 5.56.
 
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I've found that the best way to use Silencer Shop is to buy the can I want from stock at a local supplier, and then use the Kiosk there to process and track my purchase. It's way faster and easier than it used to be. My first can from 6 years ago was a pain in the ass to buy and took over a year. My last can a month ago was super easy and took 4 days.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Every can on their website is either Out of Stock or Back Ordered and when you call wanting to talk to someone you get put on eternal Hold listening to elevator music.

I finally called one of their distributors and asked the same question anf the dufas fed me a line of BS then told me he just so happened to have the exact silencer I was looking for except it was a different brand.

He in fact said it was what the can I wanted was modeled after. I asked if it was a direct thread on like the can I was after was and he BS'd somemore and I didn't get a straight answer. I asked what the decible rating was since it was what the can I wanted was copied after and he said he didn't pay attention to decible ratings, that thats not important in silencers. I asked what the length was since the can I'm after needed to be 6.25 and he said his was 5.75.

I told him that isn't the original design of the can I'm after and he was just your typical behind the counter gunscum trying to sell something and hung up.
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I have encountered many of these retarded know-it-all people in the industry over the years... The conversation condensed basically sounds like this...

"It's the exact same silencer you want, it was what the one you wanted was modeled after.............But a different brand.............And a different model.............And a different length and diameter..........And well, it does have a different baffle design............And it's made of different materials, so it has a different weight.........A different DB rating, but those don't matter anyway........... But it's black, and it's a silencer, and I have it in stock, so it's the exact same one you're looking for! (In other words: "Please buy a can from me since I'm a dumbass who knows nothing...")..."
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By the way, any reputable company with half a brain, isn't modeling their cans after anyone else's. They design and build their own proprietary baffle and internal & external structure deigns and typically the only similarities are length, color, and the fact it's a suppressor. The things that actually matter the most (baffles and how well it functions) are almost always WAY different.
 
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jabonra said:
Griffin is partnered up with capitol armory who can get that sucker shipped straight to your door, you can buy it right off the griffin site and get started. Disclaimer I dont see it explicitly list their inventory:

www.griffinarmament.com

GP5™ 5.56mm Direct Thread Suppressor (1/2x28)

GP5⢠5.56 Suppressor
www.griffinarmament.com www.griffinarmament.com
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Griffin cans suck and they fake their DB numbers in their "totally unbiased tests"... 🙄 Pretty common knowledge.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Yeah, I know. I do most of my gun buying online and haven't been in any LGS in years but the fuckhead behind the counter let me know nothings changed.

I check SS site every couple of days and haven't seen this four pages of in stock suppressors you speak of, at least not in 5.56.
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What 5.56 can are you looking for? I highly recommend the Otter Creek Labs Polonium. It's one of the best 5.56 cans I've used, and it sounds great, and is absolutely tough as nails.
 
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FuhQ said:
What 5.56 can are you looking for? I highly recommend the Otter Creek Labs Polonium. It's one of the best 5.56 cans I've used, and it sounds great, and is absolutely tough as nails.
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Is it a direct thread? The Griffin seems to be made for the 10.5 bbl., bringing it out to 16" when perm attached. One stamp.

eta. The Otter Creek can appears to be 5.8 in.. I need 6.25.
 
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FWIW, you shouldn't use Silencer Shop anyway. Without any form of two factor auth, they are one of the biggest security risks you can invite into your life. There is so much personal details available if someone just gets your auth token or pass, without any way of you knowing someone logged into your account, or attempted to log into your account. I've used them once, then saw what security they have on their website, and never went back.
 
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I think going for a 1 stamp suppressed rifle with a pin/weld suppressor is penny wise and pound foolish. Unless you foresee needing this rifle to go out of state regularly, there is almost no upside.

As far as silencer shop, it’s been a few years since I bought something from them (the transition to efile fiasco), but my purchases have been relatively painless. And, the pain points were from the ATF, not SS.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Good to know, thanks.
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silencer shop is awful and i can't believe they're still in business. i stopped using them years ago when they were literally just a hole in the wall in Austin. they were horrible then, they crashed the eforms because they suck and then damn near all the manufacturers banned them from selling their products because they violated MAP so blatantly.

Garbage company, garbage people, they literally screw up and act like its not their fault and you're lucky they're even talking to you.
 
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hlee said:
I think going for a 1 stamp suppressed rifle with a pin/weld suppressor is penny wise and pound foolish. Unless you foresee needing this rifle to go out of state regularly, there is almost no upside.

As far as silencer shop, it’s been a few years since I bought something from them (the transition to efile fiasco), but my purchases have been relatively painless. And, the pain points were from the ATF, not SS.
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Other than it's easier to clean, I don't see the benefit of taking a supressor on and off a gun. I say just aquire the can, pin it on and forget it. You have a legal 16" rifle.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Is it a direct thread? The Griffin seems to be made for the 10.5 bbl., bringing it out to 16" when perm attached. One stamp.

eta. The Otter Creek can appears to be 5.8 in.. I need 6.25.
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It comes with a direct-thread mount. Also, like was mentioned, permanently attached is really not a good, or smart, idea at all. You will occasionally need to remove your can for cleaning...Especially if you're shooting subs. Typically in about 2,500 rounds of subs, your can will collect a fairly excess amount of carbon buildup on the walls and baffles, resulting is serious amount of excess weight slowly increasing on the end.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Other than it's easier to clean, I don't see the benefit of taking a supressor on and off a gun. I say just aquire the can, pin it on and forget it. You have a legal 16" rifle.
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See, here's where there's a flaw in your plan... The suppressor has threads that the mount screws into... You will have to decide upon a mounting system, and have somebody completely weld the entire seam of the can to THAT mount, and you will never be able to remove it. Then you will have to have that same smith drill, pin, and weld that mount to your barrel. This is not a smart idea, man. Just trying to help you avoid a massive headache in the future.
 
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FuhQ said:
It comes with a direct-thread mount. Also, like was mentioned, permanently attached is really not a good, or smart, idea at all. You will occasionally need to remove your can for cleaning...Especially if you're shooting subs. Typically in about 2,500 rounds of subs, your can will collect a fairly excess amount of carbon buildup on the walls and baffles, resulting is serious amount of excess weight slowly increasing on the end.
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Thanks for the advice. Learning a lot here.
 
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FuhQ said:
See, here's where there's a flaw in your plan... The suppressor has threads that the mount screws into... You will have to decide upon a mounting system, and have somebody completely weld the entire seam of the can to THAT mount, and you will never be able to remove it. Then you will have to have that same smith drill, pin, and weld that mount to your barrel. This is not a smart idea, man. Just trying to help you avoid a massive headache in the future.
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I believe the Griffin just threads directly onto the threaded barrel.
I was originally going with a YHM Turbo and Silencer Shop said they had a direct screw on can specifically intended for a 10.5, alleviating any mount.

I appreciate the feedback. Ive never owned a supressed gun and don't want to do anything Im going to regret. Having to deal with the government is painful enough.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Other than it's easier to clean, I don't see the benefit of taking a supressor on and off a gun. I say just aquire the can, pin it on and forget it. You have a legal 16" rifle.
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Think this through…

Do you ever clean your barrel?

No?
Then fine. Pin the suppressor. The can is now treated as disposable.

Yes?
Then if you use a bore snake or patchworm, it’ll probably get hung up in the baffles. Unless…

If you use patches or felt pellets, some will eventually fall into the baffles. And then you are (eventually) fucked. A bullet will glance off a clump of something and give you an end cap strike. Or worse. Unless…

If you clean from muzzle to breach, eventually you’ll hit the crown a number of times. If bullets then don’t hit end cap afterwards but accuracy suffers, if you want to have the muzzle re-crowned, you can’t. Unless…

…unless you cut off the suppressor, buy another one (hopefully you’ll not wait long), and pin it on there.

Maybe it’s worth it to you? You don’t have to apply for an SBR, but the gov has your info anyway because you applied for a suppressor.

Maybe I’m missing something? Or in error somewhere?

🤷‍♂️
 
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carbonbased said:
Think this through…

Do you ever clean your barrel?

No?
Then fine. Pin the suppressor. The can is now treated as disposable.

Yes?
Then if you use a bore snake or patchworm, it’ll probably get hung up in the baffles. Unless…

If you use patches or felt pellets, some will eventually fall into the baffles. And then you are (eventually) fucked. A bullet will glance off a clump of something and give you an end cap strike. Or worse. Unless…

If you clean from muzzle to breach, eventually you’ll hit the crown a number of times. If bullets then don’t hit end cap afterwards but accuracy suffers, if you want to have the muzzle re-crowned, you can’t. Unless…

…unless you cut off the suppressor, buy another one (hopefully you’ll not wait long), and pin it on there.

Maybe it’s worth it to you? You don’t have to apply for an SBR, but the gov has your info anyway because you applied for a suppressor.

Maybe I’m missing something? Or in error somewhere?

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No, I see what you're saying now. (I feel like that poor sap on Dragnet after Sgt. Joe Friday lectured him for 'taking a puff of reefer just to get his kicks').

So SBR my two 10.5s and don't worry about trying to make the 16".

Lemme ask you this, what suppressor would you suggest? I still want to keep them short as possible and affordable. These are going to double as my truck guns. One of them I want to copy the Blood Diamond Car-15.
 
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TexPatriot said:
No, I see what you're saying now. (I feel like that poor sap on Dragnet after Sgt. Joe Friday lectured him after taking a puff of 'reefer' just to get his kicks).

So SBR my two 10.5s and don't worry about trying to make the 16".

Lemme ask you this, what suppressor would you suggest? I still want to keep them short as possible and affordable. These are going to double as my truck guns. One of them I want to copy the Blood Diamond Car-15.
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Hey, good on you for not going full retard! And actually reconsidering your position. Takes something to do that.

Now, I’m not a good guy to ask for a budget option (on the guns end of things at least). I’ll let someone else chime in on that.

(And har har de har on that dragnet reference lol)
 
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The irony of suppressors is- generally speaking- short suppressors for long barrels and long suppressors for short barrels.

Long barrels are typically going for max velocity, so max suppression is limited by the super sonic crack. A short can will “take the edge off” while not totally fucking the handling of the rifle.

Conversely, short barrels have a lot of concussion, and fire, and noise coming out of the muzzle. A longer can is a better suppressor of all of that. And, you’re going for quiet when shooting subs, and a longer can is a better silencer- generally speaking.

Asking about “the best can” is like asking “which actress is prettiest.” That said, the YHM resonator suppressors are a lot of can for the money- or they were when I bought a couple.
 
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What’s wrong with running them as pistols and not SBR’ing? Also, a perm attached can is not a wise choice, IMHO, as others have clearly stated above.

Maybe look into the vented/flow style cans.

On a fighting rifle, I personally like having secondary retention, FWIW.
 
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HD1911 said:
What’s wrong with running them as pistols and not SBR’ing? Also, a perm attached can is not a wise choice, IMHO, as others have clearly stated above.

Maybe look into the vented/flow style cans.

On a fighting rifle, I personally like having secondary retention, FWIW.
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In Texas? Well, most of Texas? Probably nothing. Other than most pistol braces kinda suck as stocks. And, the good one are spendy relative to an equivalent stock. Beyond that, I think the legal certainty of a pistol brace is still in limbo. An injunction is good, and a great sign for the ultimate outcome, but it is still a temporary measure.

And, all rifles should have a sling, and a user that is minimally competent with its use.

(I went to a range with a buddy and a couple of his friends- pre covid. I was pretty much done shooting and one of the friends asked if I wanted to shoot his AR. I mean, not really, but he looked really excited to show it off. Sure. His sling was a hot mess. With everyone looking on, I took about 5 minutes to disassemble and reassemble the adjustable sling so that it functioned as the manufacturer intended- as opposed to being a poor carry strap and snag hazard. I shot it a few times and handed it back. His EOtec knock off didn’t play well with my astigmatism. Anyway, I saw him again a few months later and he told me “Man, you started f’n with my sling and I wanted to say something. But when you handed the rifle back I ‘got it.’ Thanks.”)
 
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Howdy Yall!
We are definitely still in business, we're busier than ever.
With the recent spike in demand for silencers due to historically low wait times, you're probably seeing a lot of back order statuses on the site. Think about a back order as basically reserving your silencer when they come in. We're filling back orders all the time, and since we're the biggest distributor in the country we have huge POs out to all of the manufacturers. Silencer Shop is getting new cans as fast as we can to get them out to you all.
-Chase
 
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HD1911 said:
What’s wrong with running them as pistols and not SBR’ing? Also, a perm attached can is not a wise choice, IMHO, as others have clearly stated above.

Maybe look into the vented/flow style cans.

On a fighting rifle, I personally like having secondary retention, FWIW.
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Probably nothing, other than brace vs. stock.

But if you have to wait for a stamp for a can you may as well put in for a SBR at the same time so the wait time is served concurrently. Or continue running it as pistol until the SBR stamp comes back.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Probably nothing, other than brace vs. stock.

But if you have to wait for a stamp for a can you may as well put in for a SBR, so the wait time is served concurrently. Or continue running it as pistol until the SBR stamp comes back.
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The beauty of “home brewing” a SBR is that you can shoot it in pistol configuration while waiting on the SBR stamp. Once you get the approval, take it to get engraved and add the stock of your choice.

Also, a pistol can be easily transported between states, while you have to file a form with the ATF to legally move your SBR out of state- even temporarily. And, you can’t just remove the stock and say “it’s a pistol again.”

This hassle has some people (especially those in small states or that live near borders) saying “f it. I’m keeping it as a pistol…”
 
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hlee said:
This hassle has some people (especially those in small states or that live near borders) saying “f it. I’m keeping it as a pistol…”
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Yes. This is the reason to use a brace instead of SBR’ing. Let’s hope the brace rule is defeated in court. What are the statuses of those cases anyway?

And @HD1911 I see you have an RC3. I’ve had one in jail since October or thereabouts. What do you think of it?
 
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I really do like it. Glad I bought. Crazy the difference a vented/flow thru can makes on keeping an already properly gassed rig nice and soft still, with proper ejection and with no real added gunk to the action either. Def no Gas to the face, and it’s actually quiet enuff to not wear ear pro if keeping the round count reasonable. I can only compare it directly to an RC2 for an apples to apples, but it’s night and day better than it.

I will say, I will be switching all my rigs over to 3 prong FHs eventually. They currently all wear Closed Tine FHs and there is def some flash in lowlight here and there.
 
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HD1911 said:
I really do like it. Glad I bought. Crazy the difference a vented/flow thru can makes on keeping an already properly gassed rig nice and soft still, with proper ejection and with no real added gunk to the action either. Def no Gas to the face, and it’s actually quiet enuff to not wear ear pro if keeping the round count reasonable. I can only compare it directly to an RC2 for an apples to apples, but it’s night and day better than it.

I will say, I will be switching all my rigs over to 3 prong FHs eventually. They currently all wear Closed Tine FHs and there is def some flash in lowlight here and there.
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I have a four prong FH ready to go for it. Probably doesn’t matter between the three or four prong if one never shoots unsuppressed (me).

Thx for the RC3 feedback, btw. Makes me feel reassured.
 
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HD1911 said:
Def no Gas to the face, and it’s actually quiet enuff to not wear ear pro if keeping the round count reasonable. I can only compare it directly to an RC2 for an apples to apples, but it’s night and day better than it.
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The only thing the RC3 is better than an RC2 at, is gas mitigation. Everything a can is supposed to do, like sound suppression and flash mitigation, the RC3 is bad at compared to the RC2. People are better of just getting a Hux or an SRBS if they want a flow through.
 
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Quieter at the ear, bigtime. Actually pleasant enuff to use without Ear pro, unlike the RC2. Massive difference on way less back pressure. I’m only speaking from my actual experiences with both cans tho, on the same 11.5 uppers.
 
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HD1911 said:
Quieter at the ear, bigtime. Actually pleasant enuff to use without Ear pro, unlike the RC2. Massive difference on way less back pressure. I’m only speaking from my actual experiences with both cans tho, on the same 11.5 uppers.
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Might be time to get a hearing check. Every other test in the world says it's worse, or negligible in terms of shooters ear on RC3 vs RC2.
 
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Louder at the shooters ear, but with less port pop…. Explain that one to me.

Also, you used both back to back? Or you going off of tests that someone else did online?
 
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FieldGaugeFailure said:
People are better of just getting a Hux or an SRBS if they want a flow through.
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The Hux just is so dildo looking. And it screws itself on tighter and tighter due to its left-hand thread. If the SF gets stuck, you shoot it off.

The SRBS is actually pretty cool and I wish I would’ve known about it earlier. Would’ve saved me a bunch and still uses the Surefire attachment system.
www.silencershop.com

B&T SRBS 556 Full Size

B&T SRBS 556 Full Size The SRBS (Slimline Reduced Backpressure System) 556 full size suppressors are the optimal solution for comprehensive signature reduction that can survive the most aggressive firing schedules and use cases. SRBS offers a substantial
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I use hearing pro 100% of the time so suppression dB numbers don’t matter to me anymore, as all cans are quiet enough for me at this point.

The thing I want is less gas to the face, and apparently the RC3 delivers.
 
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The Hux also has a 10,000 round service life, I like surefire muzzle devices better, I wanted the locking collar, and didn’t want to have to use the included wrench to take the Hux off when it inevitably locks itself onto the muzzle after firing.

And yeah hell, it does look like a dildo, hahaha. Def doesn’t win in the cosmetic department either. Oh and Inconel > 17-4 SS.
 
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HD1911 said:
Louder at the shooters ear, but with less port pop…. Explain that one to me.

Also, you used both back to back? Or you going off of tests that someone else did online?
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Both. My partner for team sniper matches uses one, he named the can "Buyers Remorse" as he prefers his RC2.

Port pop is mitigated through rifle tuning.

Seriously though, not even joking, get a hearing check. If you think any Surefire can is hearing safe, you've experienced a good deal of hearing loss. No Surefire can is hearing safe, even an SPS with subs (which is my night coyote gun setup).
 
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HD1911 said:
Run an SBA3 and get back with me. Cannot tell the difference, when at speed and not just sitting around bench racing.

Also, notifying when crossing state lines if an SBR…. Yeah, no thanks.

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I had a chance to reflect after reading the comments.

I think I'll keep mine as a pistol and focus on a removable can, now that I'm past the 'tard idea of a perm attached one.
 
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FieldGaugeFailure said:
Both. My partner for team sniper matches uses one, he named the can "Buyers Remorse" as he prefers his RC2.

Port pop is mitigated through rifle tuning.

Seriously though, not even joking, get a hearing check. If you think any Surefire can is hearing safe, you've experienced a good deal of hearing loss. No Surefire can is hearing safe, even an SPS with subs (which is my night coyote gun setup).
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I’m def not trying to say it’s quiet, or hearing safe (85db or below). I’m saying I and the folks that have been with me on multiple occasions can tolerate it just fine, when on my 11.5s. The RC2 on the other hand, makes one almost cringe and say, fuck thats loud. The RC3 most definitely feels/seems quieter on the shooters ear. I would attribute this to minimal added gas back pressure coming out the ejection port, versus the RC2 overgassing it and being louder.

No, haven’t conducted any Pulse tests at the muzzle and shooters ear, and don’t care. No muffler is QUIET and HEARING SAFE on an 11.5 5.56 gas gun.

Maybe the Hux is a couple db quieter, still don’t care, as the RC3 does well for me and I like everything about it.
 
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