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House/Senate Pass Bills for Mandatory Military Registration of Men & Women Between 18 and 26
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My point was that human nature is the problem. We’ll always find something to fight over, however petty.
Conflict is both necessary and inevitable and efforts to prevent problems can often create bigger issues in the long run.
I have three boys and two nephews I love as my own. As mentioned, I’m not warmongering. Just recognizing that it serves a necessary function within society.
Believe me, I understood the "larger point" as what you suggested.
My response still holds. I really believe that if you thought about what I said, at length, you would agree.
Most social friction arises from disagreements. Many disagreements are based on perception vs reality.
The "need" to use violence to solve a problem seems a bit exaggerated if ever you have tried to resolve problems yourself as mediator/helper in the disagreement. Has every disagreement you've witnessed turned into a fight? If you had a helper/mediator role did that not solve things?
Much of what people say is "human nature" in slang/regular conversation, it's not literally "hard-wired" into us. No matter what people may agree on in bar banter, cocktail party chatter, dinner meeting conversation to the contrary.
I grew up with a brother not quite 2 yrs younger than me, and pretty opposite in temperament. Similar body size/strength. We quarreled a lot, came to fists a few times, wrestled probably 30-50 times. And yet we didn't resort to large violence, ever. Why is that, if "war" and its related murder-for-dominance vectors, are essentially human?
From an outsiders perspective (Australia) would not the medical rule out at least 90% of the eligible???
So, you and your brother didn't resort to "LARGE VIOLENCE".
What in the ever loving fuck is that supposed to mean?
You yelled and screamed at each other.
You wrestled.
You used your fists.
All of the above, way more than once. If you fought with your brother that much, you're a violent person. That's not even debatable.
How in the hell is the fighting not solving your problem using violence?
Large violence my fuckin ass. You sound and write like Eurotrash.
Last numbers I saw - only 30% of the 18-26 population is eligible to serve. Obesity and felonies are big portion of the 70%. But anything can be waived. Could draft then send chubbies directly to fat camp to slim down.
If male only then there will be a challenge that ends up in the Supreme Court - either we are all equal or we are not. Congress blew up all restrictions on females serving in Combat Arms - opened up Ranger school, etc. Cannot have it both ways - either women are equal to men or they are not. If women not eligible for draft, then pull them out of the Combat Arms.
Dirty secret - recruiting has been down for decades and all military specialties opened up to women to even come close to hitting force strength.
I went through Army BCT/AIT in the mid seventies and there weren't any rich kids around and it was a volunteer force then. I don't believe in a draft either because either way the poor will end up fighting the rich's wars.
I strongly believe that if done right then it should be for all persons in that age group, male, female or whatever and legal/illegal.
When they come across the border they get registered for the draft.
When they come across the border they get registered for the draft.
There is no “done right” concerning a draft. It’s evil.
Only a fool would report for “duty” and only a coward would stand by without a fight and allow the state to kidnap his son to force him into military slavery.
The fucks that start wars should be the only ones to fight it.
We wouldn't have won World War II without a Draft.
en.wikipedia.org
Selective Training and Service Act of 1940 - Wikipedia
"Cheese-eating surrender monkey" would have been funnier.
I spent a few years reading comments here before signing up and posting. I'm going to guess that with your reputation as a shooter, you are trying to miss the target here. Or are assuming a particular instance, where I'm talking a different perspective.
At a certain point my brother and I stopped wrestling, throwing fists, verbally taunting each other. Maybe it was because we understood the areas of disagreement were sort of small, and not worth the hassle. Neither surrendered. We both understood what was at stake.
You seem to be pushing me toward a particular instance, but not telling me what is that instance. Do me that favor, would you?
The draft is slavery imposed upon regular American men so that they might die and further the ambitions of their masters (who coincidentally enough are so important to the "war effort" that they get to stay behind and run the whole show while everyone else dies in the trenches). If our leaders so desire war let them lead from the front and convince their fellow man to join them via words and deeds, not via the threats of violence carried out by their thugs.We wouldn't have won World War II without a Draft.
Selective Training and Service Act of 1940 - Wikipedia
It's not tin foil hat. Some other DickHead with a stupid mustache (and his homie G in charge of the boot-shaped country) saw the same thing happening in Europe about 100 years ago. They tried their best to maintain the continuity of their respective people, but the lefties throughout Europe and the US wouldn't let it happen.
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I didn't assume nor call you French.
What was at stake? Your egos?
Dick measuring?
Both?
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"You seem to be pushing me toward a particular instance, but not telling me what is that instance. Do me that favor, would you?"
What the fuck are you going on about? Like I know anything about "a particular instance" within your lifetime.
You still sound like Eurotrash.
Someone up thread already posted it, but this is much ado about nothing. We’ve had selective service registration for a long time. I vaguely remember being handed a form during a (mid 90s) highschool class- probably second period as that was the “attendance period” and then receiving a card in the mail sometime later. No one ever bashed in my front door, carted me off, or shaved my head. This doesn’t change or increase the legal obligation to register for selective service. Must be a really slow news week.
We wouldn’t have won Korea without a dr…….wait…We wouldn't have won World War II without a Draft.
Selective Training and Service Act of 1940 - Wikipedia
We wouldn’t have wine Vietnam without a dra……….wait……
800billion+ , and now as we are running out of Ukrainians add some 'mericans'
"Today, non-citizen males of appropriate age in the United States, who are permanent residents (holders of green cards), seasonal agricultural workers not holding an H-2A Visa, refugees, parolees, asylees, and illegal immigrants, are required to register with the Selective Service System.[152] Refusal to do so is grounds for denial of a future citizenship application. "
Conscription in the United States - Wikipedia
The US needs to do like Israel, EVERYONE does a mandatory 2 year hitch. This is now my view , If you don't, then no right to vote or government assistance of any kind for life.
The indoctrination is strong in you. Your view is morally reprehensible. There is nothing honorable about serving gov’t. It’s a corrupt cesspool of shit, a criminal organization. I would have thought that the last 8 years alone would have convinced anyone with the capacity to reason.
I guess I do, to you and whoever upvotes your comments. I suppose that's some kind of little victory for you?
Maybe you should try making a point with the same effort you'd use to build a precise rifle or shoot the thing.
Do you work hard at being so wrong?
"Deflection" implies intent. So I have an intent to distract? What in the fuchachte are you talking about here? You think you can read another's mind and intent?
Hey mikey, you never met me. You don't know me.
And you are assessing 180deg opposite reality. Nice work for a shooter of your caliber.
Watch them run back over the boarder if they have to go to warI would clarify this - this admin.considers anyone who used the CBP app, had an encounter w/BP or interaction with a NGO, or asylum court date a decade from now to be "legal". That's why many of them think they can vote - just ask them.
When I was in it was called Fitness Training Unit or FTU. Other wise know as Fat Tired and Useless.
I don't see it as serving the government but serving one's country and fellow citizens. I see positives in it in my view , you see negative.
I'll agree our government has went down the drain and is corrupt, but I believe mandatory 2yr conscription would make a whole lot of people better individuals and fellow citizens.
I guess for some folks like you it's impossible to explain why slavery to the government is wrong and evil and should be fought at all costs.
You are NOT serving "your fellow citizens" in the military, you ARE ONLY serving the government and the interests of the rich and elites that control the government.
You have no idea of the horror that would be in this country if you ideas were actually put into practice.
Imagine Joe Biden and all the Democrats puppets of the Left wing being able to kidnap you and your kids at gunpoint and force them to be brutalized, indoctrinated slaves and extra stomping boots to get rid of you and your kind...
Those who wax all poetic longing for the "glorious draft" should just STFU and go head out and die in the trenches for the glory of the Global Elites so they don't help vote anyone into power that might put such things into practice.
BUT mark my words.
It WILL come and it will be accompanied by a huge amount of jingoistic propaganda and public hysteria to make even the Covidians envious and a huge swath of the "good people" including most of the usual suspects on here will all be locking step and chanting "brain off just follow orders" as they turn into a frenzied mob hunting down and trying to eliminate anyone speaking against the glories of slavery for the wars of the Global Elites.
You would be incorrect. You see it for what you want it to be and not for which it is. It’s a shame so many such as yourself value the state over the individual.
Insult at the start, insult 2x interim, insult to finish.
Never once offered any suggestions of why I'm here to "deflect" and what my real goals are. Come on mind reader, spill your expert wisdom. Show how wise you are.
And then tell us all, where you sourced your background on me.
Swing away!
Officers like that got their POV keys filed down, their canteens filled with giant cockroaches, and their patrol caps stink-palmed with field funk buttcrack. Toxic leaders don’t deserve citizenship even. They aren’t Americans and have no place among free men. I have nothing but contempt and disdain for their presence. I know several of them that cost the lives of scores of good Americans without any reason, other than their abject laziness and incompetence. One of them even bragged about it when discussing his career, as if it was some resumé enhancer.
It’s coming whether anyone wants it or not, but it won’t be the one anyone thinks it is, nor against the people that you think it will be. I’ll let y’all figure out the puzzle there.
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We had a few in 65-66 that just wanted to pad their 201's. Those types did not hang around long once the message was passed about what can happen past the LD.
"Legal obligation".
Is there an obligation to follow the orders of a corrupt government?
Didn't they just make it an mandatory obligation to be a lab rat and be injected with the covid jab?
Is the government following their obligations to the citizens? A balanced budget, secure borders, secure elections and a few other easy ones?
Yep, you're a confirmed idiot.
That's ripping good stuff, Mike. Never seen anyone so eager to find a quarrel, without even asking the other guy's thoughts. Just assume you know, because ... well, just because -- I guess.
Can't admit wrong about "euro" can't admit wrong about "distraction" can't admit no nefarious motives at my end.
Maybe you can admit someone fits the profile for what you think I am -- and you have me confused for that person. Maybe you can admit that?
Naaaah. On/Off. You already know me, without knowing me. Off.
Top notch. Top notch!
Can't admit wrong about "euro" can't admit wrong about "distraction" can't admit no nefarious motives at my end.
Maybe you can admit someone fits the profile for what you think I am -- and you have me confused for that person. Maybe you can admit that?
Naaaah. On/Off. You already know me, without knowing me. Off.
Top notch. Top notch!
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