Burris XTR III vs Burris XTR Pro vs NX8 4-32...or

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

Need a couple of HPVO's.

Read everything on here and still waffling. I've reached decision paralysis.

I have an NX8. It's a great scope. But that's my only frame of reference. Never looked through any of the others.

I understand all the differences between XTR III and Pro.

One of them will be for a Rimfire application. It's not a nice rimfire trainer. Just a Savage Mark II FVSR in a Boyds AT-ONE stock.

I'm even considering that Bushnell Match Pro ED for the Savage. BUT I've pretty much sworn off budget scopes. I'm not at the "price is not a consideration" point because I'm still cheap at heart, but I make it a point not to skimp on glass any more. That being said, there is still something inside of me that has a hard time putting a $1000-2000 optic on a $200 gun. Even though I know why you should.

So, do I just throw the Bushnell on top and be done with it? When I get a nicer rimfire I can get a nice scope (probably won't get rid of the Savage). OR do I get a XTR III for a couple bucks more? OR do I spend a few hundred more than that and get an XTR Pro or NX8 knowing it may go on much nicer Rimfire at some point?

Other two optics will be going on .223's. One a complete custom 26" built PRS style rig (will also be used to murder prairie dogs) and the other a custom 26" Rem 700 varmint / fun gun. Handled for everything.

That being said I can get additional NX8's in the sub $2000 price range, so the XTR pro and NX8 are very close in price point. Between those two I don't necessarily think the NX8 is better. From reading everything on here it appears that the XTR Pro may even be better glass in some aspects.

I was originally going to put an ATACR 7-35 on the custom rig (and still may), but I can be talked into the XTR PRO for that gun. Not really considering the XTR III or NX8 for the this rifle, but again if that's a more reasonable route I'm open to it.

The custom Rem 700 is slated to become a 300 Blackout down the road at some point. I was going to do it right away, but now I think I'll just shoot it out and then swap it. Thoughts on the three optics listed initially?

I always say I'm not building / buying any ore guns, but we know how that goes. I just broke every AR I own down, and 6 AR's turned into 15 different during the rebuild project. SO, I have no issue with playing scope shuffle and like to buy for the long run with the intent of buying the right optic and moving it around down the road if need be.

Appreciate your time.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

Should add, I do like the 11 yard parallax on the NX8 for rimfire, but not sure that’s a make or break as the other ones are 15-20 yards.

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iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

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I'll add it to the list. You're suggesting this instead of 7-35 ATACR and or XTR Pro?

Rob01 · Jul 11, 2024

That Bushnell Match Pro ED is a nice little scope for the money. I would get it and drop it on the rimfire. I was actually pleasantly surprised when I got mine.

For the other, yeah the Zeiss is a winner. I had the Pro and I liked the S3 better in every way. The Pro is a good optic but the Zeiss is better.

YotaEer · Jul 11, 2024

I’d take the element theos over the NX8 or any of the XTRs every single day. I’d take it over the zeiss s3 most days.

You can get them for right around $1900-2000 from some hide dealers.

ARShooter91 · Jul 11, 2024

Rob01 said:
That Bushnell Match Pro ED is a nice little scope for the money. I would get it and drop it on the rimfire. I was actually pleasantly surprised when I got mine.

For the other, yeah the Zeiss is a winner. I had the Pro and I liked the S3 better in every way. The Pro is a good optic but the Zeiss is better.

Eyebox as good on the S3? I've really come to like the SCR2 reticle in .2mil. IME with 2-3-18s 2-5-30s and 1 pro I think the pro handles mirage better and a slight edge in clarity in poor conditions. I also paid less than $900 a pop for the xtr3s and $1370 for a black pro.

Rob01 · Jul 11, 2024

ARShooter91 said:
Eyebox as good on the S3? I've really come to like the SCR2 reticle in .2mil. IME with 2-3-18s 2-5-30s and 1 pro I think the pro handles mirage better and a slight edge in clarity in poor conditions. I also paid less than $900 a pop for the xtr3s and $1370 for a black pro.

That’s the one thing on the pro that is a little better than the S3 but the S3 has a very good eye box also. I like the S3 reticle a lot better than the SCR2. Main reason is it is easier to see as it’s darker.

Hickswr · Jul 11, 2024

YotaEer said:
I’d take the element theos over the NX8 or any of the XTRs every single day. I’d take it over the zeiss s3 most days.

You can get them for right around $1900-2000 from some hide dealers.

I consider myself a scope aficionado and this is the first I’ve ever heard of an “element theos”.

Please enlighten the less informed as to how the theos is superior to other scopes in the $2K price range.

Fret · Jul 11, 2024

I have a S3 and a Theos. The glass quality seems very similar and very close to my G3s to my eyes anyway. I like the S3 reticle more but the Theos has nicer turrets with the tool less zero stop adjustment.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

Good suggestions. Thank you. I'll have to look into the two suggested in addition to the ones on my list.

Fret said:
I have a S3 and a Theos. The glass quality seems very similar and very close to my G3s to my eyes anyway. I like the S3 reticle more but the Theos has nicer turrets with the tool less zero stop adjustment.

What's the G3?

Im2bent · Jul 11, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
Good suggestions. Thank you. I'll have to look into the two suggested in addition to the ones on my list.

What the G3

Vortex razor

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

Im2bent said:
Vortex razor

Not interested in vortex HPVOs. I have all 3 of their higher end LPVOs and they’re great. That’s an area I feel they really dominate. But I wouldn’t buy one of the HPVOs over a NF Or Zeiss. Or probably even the Burris. Just a preference. Not a statement.

Im2bent · Jul 11, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
Not interested in vortex HPVOs. I have all 3 of their higher end LPVOs and they’re great. That’s an area I feel they really dominate. But I wouldn’t buy one of the HPVOs over a NF Or Zeiss. Or probably even the Burris. Just a preference. Not a statement.

I was just answering your question what's a g3.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

Rob01 said:
That Bushnell Match Pro ED is a nice little scope for the money. I would get it and drop it on the rimfire. I was actually pleasantly surprised when I got mine.

For the other, yeah the Zeiss is a winner. I had the Pro and I liked the S3 better in every way. The Pro is a good optic but the Zeiss is better.

I’m leaning this way for the Savage. Since I’m not going to get rid of it, whatever optic I put on it will probably stay on it. Or if I buy a higher end optic for it now, that would probably end up on whatever I upgrade to down the road so I’d just have to buy another optic for it. I think at that point I’d rather invest in the newer higher end tech at that point for the theoretically upgraded rifle?

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

Im2bent said:
I was just answering your question what's a g3.

Sorry. Long time listener. First time caller. Gen 3 Razor. Got it. Thank you.

YotaEer · Jul 11, 2024

Hickswr said:
I consider myself a scope aficionado and this is the first I’ve ever heard of an “element theos”.

Please enlighten the less informed as to how the theos is superior to other scopes in the $2K price range.

Fret said:
I have a S3 and a Theos. The glass quality seems very similar and very close to my G3s to my eyes anyway. I like the S3 reticle more but the Theos has nicer turrets with the tool less zero stop adjustment.

Agreed the glass quality between the Gen 3 razor, theos and S3 is very similar. I’d give a very slight edge to the Gen 3.

However I prefer the eye box, controls, reticle, weight and tool less zero system of the Theos over the other 2.

The element nexus gen 2 is closer to $1600. Scaled down theos design with 30mm tube. Also excellent. Essentially the 30mm version of the zeiss 4-25

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

Can anyone confirm the glass in the XTR IIIi and the XTR Pro are the same. I’ve read a couple places where people thought the glass in the Pro was just a touch better. Is that just a function of it being a newer model?

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

YotaEer said:
Agreed the glass quality between the Gen 3 razor, theos and S3 is very similar. I’d give a very slight edge to the Gen 3.

However I prefer the eye box, controls, reticle, weight and tool less zero system of the Theos over the other 2.

The element nexus gen 2 is closer to $1600. Scaled down theos design with 30mm tube. Also excellent. Essentially the 30mm version of the zeiss 4-25

Thanks. Added to the list.

YotaEer · Jul 11, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
Can anyone confirm the glass in the XTR IIIi and the XTR Pro are the same. I’ve read a couple places where people thought the glass in the Pro was just a touch better. Is that just a function of it being a newer model?

Glass in the pro is better for sure. Same with the controls.

RedTimber · Jul 11, 2024

YotaEer said:
Glass in the pro is better for sure. Same with the controls.

This. XTR 3 and Pro are definitely not same. Pro is more easily compared to Gen 3 vortex

iflyskyhigh · Jul 11, 2024

And would it be accurate to say the XTR IIIi is a leaps and bounds ahead of the Bushnell Match Pro ED?

rothgyr · Jul 12, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
And would it be accurate to say the XTR IIIi is a leaps and bounds ahead of the Bushnell Match Pro ED?

Probably not. Burris' Chromatic Aberration control isn't awesome. Even the XTR Pro has quite a bit, especially if you're off centered at all. The eyebox is yuge on the Pro as a trade off. The MPED has a good reputation for controlling CA.

Honestly, if you like your NX8, I'd just stock up on them and enjoy having matching systems across your rifles. If you want to branch out, I'd get the XTR Pro. SCR2 variants match up with the MIL-XT super well, that detachable turret is legit, etc. One of my buddies made the switch from the Pro to a Gen 3 Razor and misses the eyebox on the XTR Pro, as well as the turret features. He's still happy with the Razor, but he wasn't as impressed as he expected to be.

I'll put in a recommendation for the US Optics FDN with a JVCR. The eyebox is similar to a Razor 3 and MK5, and the glass is the same to my eyes as my ATACR 7-35, if not better. You mentioned getting lower prices, so I assume you might qualify for a discount with US Optics, which brings the 25x down to about $2000ish. I've run mine in PRS for the last 4 years with zero grief. Definitely not a rimfire scope though. Parallax only goes down to 75 yards.

All said, I think the NX8 4-32 is a super solid scope that flexes into many roles. Sub 30oz for hunting, 10ish yards parallax for rimfire, etc. I've been eyeing the 4-32 for one of my rifles as well.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 12, 2024

rothgyr said:
Probably not. Burris' Chromatic Aberration control isn't awesome. Even the XTR Pro has quite a bit, especially if you're off centered at all. The eyebox is yuge on the Pro as a trade off. The MPED has a good reputation for controlling CA.

Honestly, if you like your NX8, I'd just stock up on them and enjoy having matching systems across your rifles. If you want to branch out, I'd get the XTR Pro. SCR2 variants match up with the MIL-XT super well, that detachable turret is legit, etc. One of my buddies made the switch from the Pro to a Gen 3 Razor and misses the eyebox on the XTR Pro, as well as the turret features. He's still happy with the Razor, but he wasn't as impressed as he expected to be.

I'll put in a recommendation for the US Optics FDN with a JVCR. The eyebox is similar to a Razor 3 and MK5, and the glass is the same to my eyes as my ATACR 7-35, if not better. You mentioned getting lower prices, so I assume you might qualify for a discount with US Optics, which brings the 25x down to about $2000ish. I've run mine in PRS for the last 4 years with zero grief. Definitely not a rimfire scope though. Parallax only goes down to 75 yards.

All said, I think the NX8 4-32 is a super solid scope that flexes into many roles. Sub 30oz for hunting, 10ish yards parallax for rimfire, etc. I've been eyeing the 4-32 for one of my rifles as well.

Thank you. I appreciate your input.

rothgyr · Jul 12, 2024

Rob01 said:
That Bushnell Match Pro ED is a nice little scope for the money. I would get it and drop it on the rimfire. I was actually pleasantly surprised when I got mine.

For the other, yeah the Zeiss is a winner. I had the Pro and I liked the S3 better in every way. The Pro is a good optic but the Zeiss is better.

You had the XRS3 for a while, didn't you? I know it's comparing a flagship optic to a budget line, but how do they compare? By the looks of it the XRS3 has a small sight picture, and the MPED has a large view. I'm curious what your thoughts are there.

Rob01 · Jul 12, 2024

rothgyr said:
You had the XRS3 for a while, didn't you? I know it's comparing a flagship optic to a budget line, but how do they compare? By the looks of it the XRS3 has a small sight picture, and the MPED has a large view. I'm curious what your thoughts are there.

I had sold the XRS3 before I got the Match Pro ED so never got to side by side them. I will say this though, I sold the XRS3 as for the price it didn't have good glass, no illumination and it just didn't fit what I thought it should cost for what I got. It took me a little convincing with an internal argument to try the MPED but glad I did. It really is a good scope with good glass, illumination and features for it's price range. Thinking about picking up another here soon.

ToddM · Jul 12, 2024

If it helps sway anyone the XTR Pro can be had under around $1450 if you shop around, perhaps lower. That said I was not impressed with my XTR III at all. Mine had horrible lash/slop in the elevation knob and the windage knob clicks were so light/mushy you could barely feel them. It went back to Burris and they repaired it and I should find out how that went next week. A bit skeptical right now though, they originally told me 5-6 weeks but they received it, repaired it, and sent it back in under 2 days. I have a bad feeling they just shipped it back without doing anything to it. They've had some pretty harsh customer service experiences reported recently here and other places. I will say it was easy to get a return going and they covered shipping etc. so if it comes back actually fixed I'll be happy to have my suspicions be wrong.

Burris seems to have really cranked their dealer min prices up, or policed them more. A few months ago it was easy to find XTR 3's around $900 and Pros around $1400. Now most places want $1100 for a XTR 3 and $1800+ for a Pro. Vortex did the same, tons of retailers had way cheaper prices on them a few months ago and have all jacked them back up even though MSRP has not moved.

The Match Pro ED has a lot of nice features but it didn't sound like it held up well optically to it's peers in BigJimFish's review here. https://www.snipershide.com/precisi...-bushnell-match-pro-ed-5-30x56mm-rifle-scope/ That said at the lower price points I'd rather have great features, durability etc. and give up a bit of optics than say cheap out on the mechanics/internals for better optics. Its 15yd parallax and 103 MOA of adjustment lend it nicely to rimfire use, but a lot of the more expensive optics these days offer close in parallax options and a lot of elevation adjustment so that might not be as big of a deal these days.

Like most things prices have gone up, 6 months ago you could get new S3's for around $1850, it's a super nice optic though, it's all about where you draw the price limit. It's so easy to end up spending a lot because there's so many good options at all the price points now that it's very tempting to just keep going up the price chain saying "Well it's just $300-500 more and it's a better scope" and before you know it you talked yourself into $3k options.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 13, 2024

ToddM said:
If it helps sway anyone the XTR Pro can be had under around $1450 if you shop around, perhaps lower. That said I was not impressed with my XTR III at all. Mine had horrible lash/slop in the elevation knob and the windage knob clicks were so light/mushy you could barely feel them. It went back to Burris and they repaired it and I should find out how that went next week. A bit skeptical right now though, they originally told me 5-6 weeks but they received it, repaired it, and sent it back in under 2 days. I have a bad feeling they just shipped it back without doing anything to it. They've had some pretty harsh customer service experiences reported recently here and other places. I will say it was easy to get a return going and they covered shipping etc. so if it comes back actually fixed I'll be happy to have my suspicions be wrong.

Burris seems to have really cranked their dealer min prices up, or policed them more. A few months ago it was easy to find XTR 3's around $900 and Pros around $1400. Now most places want $1100 for a XTR 3 and $1800+ for a Pro. Vortex did the same, tons of retailers had way cheaper prices on them a few months ago and have all jacked them back up even though MSRP has not moved.

The Match Pro ED has a lot of nice features but it didn't sound like it held up well optically to it's peers in BigJimFish's review here. https://www.snipershide.com/precisi...-bushnell-match-pro-ed-5-30x56mm-rifle-scope/ That said at the lower price points I'd rather have great features, durability etc. and give up a bit of optics than say cheap out on the mechanics/internals for better optics. Its 15yd parallax and 103 MOA of adjustment lend it nicely to rimfire use, but a lot of the more expensive optics these days offer close in parallax options and a lot of elevation adjustment so that might not be as big of a deal these days.

Like most things prices have gone up, 6 months ago you could get new S3's for around $1850, it's a super nice optic though, it's all about where you draw the price limit. It's so easy to end up spending a lot because there's so many good options at all the price points now that it's very tempting to just keep going up the price chain saying "Well it's just $300-500 more and it's a better scope" and before you know it you talked yourself into $3k options.

I like your take and appreciate you taking the time to respond.

The more I ponder it the more I’m leaning towards just sticking with @rothgyr ‘s advice and continuing with my preference for NF.

It’s a know quantity. And the quantity is good. That’s not a statement that NF is the best or better than this or that optic, but I believe NF to be a robust quality optic that tracks well and has quality glass. Or least in the examples I have I’ve found that to be true.

Also agree that the prices of optics appear to have risen sharply over the past few months. Going back through the threads and reading about the optics I was looking at, I can’t believe the difference in price between what people say they were getting them for just a few months ago, and the prices currently available. Those prices are no where to be found. And I’ve looked.

I appreciate everyone’s advice and feedback. I did look at and research all the models that were suggested that I hadn’t previously considered. But again, in the end I like the NF product and think l’ll stick with it.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 13, 2024

ToddM said:
If it helps sway anyone the XTR Pro can be had under around $1450 if you shop around, perhaps lower. That said I was not impressed with my XTR III at all. Mine had horrible lash/slop in the elevation knob and the windage knob clicks were so light/mushy you could barely feel them. It went back to Burris and they repaired it and I should find out how that went next week. A bit skeptical right now though, they originally told me 5-6 weeks but they received it, repaired it, and sent it back in under 2 days. I have a bad feeling they just shipped it back without doing anything to it. They've had some pretty harsh customer service experiences reported recently here and other places. I will say it was easy to get a return going and they covered shipping etc. so if it comes back actually fixed I'll be happy to have my suspicions be wrong.

Burris seems to have really cranked their dealer min prices up, or policed them more. A few months ago it was easy to find XTR 3's around $900 and Pros around $1400. Now most places want $1100 for a XTR 3 and $1800+ for a Pro. Vortex did the same, tons of retailers had way cheaper prices on them a few months ago and have all jacked them back up even though MSRP has not moved.

The Match Pro ED has a lot of nice features but it didn't sound like it held up well optically to it's peers in BigJimFish's review here. https://www.snipershide.com/precisi...-bushnell-match-pro-ed-5-30x56mm-rifle-scope/ That said at the lower price points I'd rather have great features, durability etc. and give up a bit of optics than say cheap out on the mechanics/internals for better optics. Its 15yd parallax and 103 MOA of adjustment lend it nicely to rimfire use, but a lot of the more expensive optics these days offer close in parallax options and a lot of elevation adjustment so that might not be as big of a deal these days.

Like most things prices have gone up, 6 months ago you could get new S3's for around $1850, it's a super nice optic though, it's all about where you draw the price limit. It's so easy to end up spending a lot because there's so many good options at all the price points now that it's very tempting to just keep going up the price chain saying "Well it's just $300-500 more and it's a better scope" and before you know it you talked yourself into $3k options.

Just curious. Did you find your impression of the XTR Pro to be the same as that of the XTR III?

I don't think I'd get one over the NF, but...

The Pro is really the only other one I'm still a tiny bit intrigued by. It's not even that it's cheaper than the NF. I like the feature set.

But I'm not willing to comprise on glass quality. As my buddy said once, " You can't hit what you can't see." And if the feature set doesn't work as intended then what's the point?

ToddM · Jul 13, 2024

To be clear I do not own a Pro, bet it is temping at that price to try out one. Honestly my XTR III experience has kind of sour'd me personally on Burris, but lots of people like them and have good experiences. . One thing you don't see talked about much in sport optics that's been known for decades in the camera lens world is that even the most expensive lenses have sample to sample variation. I can remember camera guys buying 3-4 lenses, testing them, and keeping the best copy, or buying them and sending them strait to Canon for calibration. I'd be willing to bet the same variation exists in spotting scopes/rifle scopes/binos etc. That said the "best" glass I have to compare to is a Gen 2 Razor, so I don't have any of the newer alpha glass, and I'm not really a glass snob, while I can appreciate good glass, I'm not out testing a bunch of scopes trying to find the best.

To your point there's also an advantage IMO of standardizing your optics/reticles across guns. I tried the XTR III because pretty much all of my just fun/range guns wear PST Gen 2 and a couple a Razor Gen 2. There was so much hype over the XTR III that I thought I'd try it with the idea of swapping out some of my PST Gen 2's if I felt it was a significant step up since price was comparable. Optically it's certainly a step up, especially if you are at the top end of the PST 2, but the slap/lash in the elevation knob, and super soft/mushy windage knob on the XTR III were unappealing. Still have to say it's likely a better scope overall, esp. if you get one with good knob feel, but for my use it wasn't enough to make me swap out a bunch of PST 2's.

ECK · Jul 13, 2024

I put the XTR Pro on my rimfire rifle when they first came out and liked it so much I ended up getting one for my 6GT. I did try another brand of scope for my 6.5CM bc I was trying to keep the overall weight down as a NRL Hunter rifle but after a few weeks of struggling to like the reticle I got another XTR Pro. Going back to the Pro and SCR2 reticle was like coming home. No regrets, the other scope had some nice features but at the end of the day I just didn’t like the reticle as much as I do the SCR2. As mentioned above, the Pro has a very forgiving eye-box and wider FOV, and as a result I usually keep my scope on 16X for the entire match whereas with other brands I was more around 12-14x to start with.

That said, if the OP likes his NX8 and the reticle, then my advice FWIW is to stick with something you’re familiar and comfortable with. It’s ok to be a fanboi.

FuhQ · Jul 13, 2024

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THIS!!! ^^^ This is the way.

2.) XTR-III 5.5-30x56 SCR2 (basically a less-expensive XTR-Pro...Same basic scope, just built in Philippines w/ Japanese ED glass)
3.) XTR-Pro 5.5-30x56 SCR2 (same scope as the XTR-III, just made in USA with USA glass)
4.) NX8 4-32 (great scope, the only reason I put it last, is because it only has a 30mm tube... All the others are 34mm)

I have the Zeiss LRP S3 6-36x, and the XTR-III 5.5-30x56. Both are great scopes. I do slightly prefer the XTR-III reticle (SCR2) over the Zeiss ZF-MRi, because the Zeiss reticle is kind of thick, and the Burris is much easier to see the target behind the reticle while zoomed all the way in.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 13, 2024

Dammit. I may have to order a XTR Pro just to try it out.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 13, 2024

FuhQ said:
THIS!!! ^^^ This is the way.

2.) XTR-III 5.5-30x56 SCR2 (basically a less-expensive XTR-Pro...Same basic scope, just built in Philippines w/ Japanese ED glass)
3.) XTR-Pro 5.5-30x56 SCR2 (same scope as the XTR-III, just made in USA with USA glass)
4.) NX8 4-32 (great scope, the only reason I put it last, is because it only has a 30mm tube... All the others are 34mm)

I have the Zeiss LRP S3 6-36x, and the XTR-III 5.5-30x56. Both are great scopes. I do slightly prefer the XTR-III reticle (SCR2) over the Zeiss ZF-MRi, because the Zeiss reticle is kind of thick, and the Burris is much easier to see the target behind the reticle while zoomed all the way in.

I did look at the Zeiss. Just not sure about the reticle?

Rob01 · Jul 13, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
I did look at the Zeiss. Just not sure about the reticle?

The Zeiss reticle is excellent for holds. You can see it great too as it's darker than some others. I'd get the Zeiss over the Pro. I actually traded a Pro for one of my Zeiss S3s.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 13, 2024

Rob01 said:
The Zeiss reticle is excellent for holds. You can see it great too as it's darker than some others. I'd get the Zeiss over the Pro. I actually traded a Pro for one of my Zeiss S3s.

Okay. I'll take a second look. Thank you.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 14, 2024

Doing a little deeper dive on the S3. Not sure it's an accurate comparison, but how does it stack up against the NF 7-35 ATACR?

I don't own the 7-35, but have spent quite some time behind it on several different rifles and I really like it. Was stilling leaning towards putting this on my custom .223 build.

Have obviously not put hands on an S3. But after a little more digging, I am interested in it.

ruger35 · Jul 14, 2024

I have both a 7-35, and S3, the 7-35 is a better scope overall to me. I think depending on the prices you can find them at will dictate what you get. I get my NF scopes through EV so it’s not as big of a sticker shock.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 14, 2024

ruger35 said:
I have both a 7-35, and S3, the 7-35 is a better scope overall to me. I think depending on the prices you can find them at will dictate what you get. I get my NF scopes through EV so it’s not as big of a sticker shock.

Thank you

iflyskyhigh · Jul 16, 2024

Well, I did what I said I wasn't going to do. I ordered a Burris XTR Pro 1/4 MIL Black. I was pointed toward one for great price.

Glad I pulled the trigger when I did. Woke up the next morning and the price had gone up $500 over night!

Also went ahead and ordered a ATACR 7-35 MIL XT. I really looked seriously at the S3. Haven't ruled it out, but it's on the back burner for the time being. I think the NF is a better optic for me on the rifle it's going on. At least from a durablity standpoint. I tend to be hard on my stuff.

Will most likely order another NX8 4-32, but I'm going to spend some quality time behind both my NX8 4-32 and XTR Pro side by side and see how it shakes out. If I love the XTR Pro maybe I grab another one of those? Who knows. Without even looking through it, not sure I'd spend $2K on the Burris though. If that's the case I'd be curious how the S3 stacks up again the XTR Pro. The demo that someone pointed me towards at Eurooptic is only a a couple bucks more than that what the XTR Pro is going for in SCR2, and the SCR2 1/4 mils I can find now are going for equal too or more than that demo model.

Still waffling on whether to try the Bushnell for the savage rimfire. I really wish I could look through one without committing to it first.

I wish there was someplace to look through all these optics without purchasing them. All the advice and help is great, but there is still a lot of subjective element to the whole equation.

Anyway, appreciate all the input.

Rob01 · Jul 16, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
Well, I did what I said I wasn't going to do. I ordered a Burris XTR Pro 1/4 MIL Black. I was pointed toward one for great price.

Glad I pulled the trigger when I did. Woke up the next morning and the price had gone up $500 over night!

Also went ahead and ordered a ATACR 7-35 MIL XT. I really looked seriously at the S3. Haven't ruled it out, but it's on the back burner for the time being. I think the NF is a better optic for me on the rifle it's going on. At least from a durablity standpoint. I tend to be hard on my stuff.

Will most likely order another NX8 4-32, but I'm going to spend some quality time behind both my NX8 4-32 and XTR Pro side by side and see how it shakes out. If I love the XTR Pro maybe I grab another one of those? Who knows. Without even looking through it, not sure I'd spend $2K on the Burris though. If that's the case I'd be curious how the S3 stacks up again the XTR Pro. The demo that someone pointed me towards at Eurooptic is only a a couple bucks more than that what the XTR Pro is going for in SCR2, and the SCR2 1/4 mils I can find now are going for equal too or more than that demo model.

Still waffling on whether to try the Bushnell for the savage rimfire. I really wish I could look through one without committing to it first.

I wish there was someplace to look through all these optics without purchasing them. All the advice and help is great, but there is still a lot of subjective element to the whole equation.

Anyway, appreciate all the input.

Where did you order the Pro from? Was it on sale and that is why price went up?

The Pro is a good scope. I think you will like it. Here is a post I had done with some thoughts on a few scopes including the Pro and S3.

Rifle Scopes - Tract Toric ELR vs Burris XTR IIIi NOW With some Burris Pro and now some Zeiss LRP S3 also!

There was an older thread and mentioned a wider field of view on the XTRIII and a black tunneling in the sight picture on the Tract but that was months ago and another with a recommendation of a Bushnell Elite over the two but no illumination so with not many posts in either thread I figured I...

www.snipershide.com

iflyskyhigh · Jul 16, 2024

Ordered it from Buds. $1574 shipped with tax. $1449 before tax.

Didn’t say it was on sale. Went back to look at my order next morning and the price was $2069 I believe. I say “I believe” cause I can’t remember exactly. And I just checked again and it’s back down to $1444.49! WTF?

Any way….

Thanks for the link. I’ll read through it.

I’ll be interested to see how it compares to the NX8 4-32. Since one is a 34mm tube and the other a 30mm. I’m curious to see how big a difference that makes.

GO@HORNS · Jul 16, 2024

I really like the XTR Pro. I sold my Zeiss S3 and went with the Pro. Only reason was the eyebox was better than the Zeiss.

iflyskyhigh · Jul 16, 2024

Well. This should be interesting. I was just chatting with Bud's.

When I saw the price went back down I thought shit, I should probably order another at that price. I have several rifles, including a PCP airgun, where that optic would be happy at. And if I don't like them I'm sure I'd lose a couple bucks but the hit shouldn't be too bad. I'll sell em and just order more NX8 4-32's.

I asked them to add another one to my order and they said they couldn't do it. And in fact there may have been an error in their online pricing. I was like, well, your error is back. If it's an error, you've made it multiple times in the past few days.

He said they may have to cancel my order and refund my money. Shitty. But what can I do?

I ordered another just in case

iflyskyhigh · Jul 17, 2024

…and it’s back up to $2069…

spife7980 · Jul 17, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
…and it’s back up to $2069…

Quit calling shitty dealers like buds.
Give Cameralandny or cstactical or any hide vendor a ring and ask about the hide price for it.

Edit: so i guess they didnt cancel your order, less shitty absolutely but still gave the run around. At least you asked around some so in this case, good buy

iflyskyhigh · Jul 17, 2024

spife7980 said:
Quit calling shitty dealers like buds.
Give Cameralandny or cstactical or any hide vendor a ring and ask about the hide price for it.

I've purchased from Bud's before. Never had an issue. Shows the 2 I purchased @ $1444 are getting ready to ship.

$1444 for the SCR2 1/4 mil black is appears to be a pretty smoking deal for that optic.

I talked my guy at Eurooptic and he said he couldn't sell them for that. He couldn't even sell the standard SCR2 for that let alone the 1/4 mil version which for some reason is several hundred dollars more.

Not only that, but I've searched high and low and I haven't seen hardly any other offering of the black version. Everyone else only has the red and blacks.

I spoke with one of the vendors on here and he didn't carry them.

If for some reason Bud's doesn't fulfill my order I will contact Cameraland and CSTactical. Is there someplace on that has a consolidated list of all the approved Hide vendors?

db2000 · Jul 17, 2024

YotaEer said:
Glass in the pro is better for sure. Same with the controls.

Agreed

FuhQ · Jul 17, 2024

iflyskyhigh said:
Well, I did what I said I wasn't going to do. I ordered a Burris XTR Pro 1/4 MIL Black. I was pointed toward one for great price.

Glad I pulled the trigger when I did. Woke up the next morning and the price had gone up $500 over night!

Also went ahead and ordered a ATACR 7-35 MIL XT. I really looked seriously at the S3. Haven't ruled it out, but it's on the back burner for the time being. I think the NF is a better optic for me on the rifle it's going on. At least from a durablity standpoint. I tend to be hard on my stuff.

Will most likely order another NX8 4-32, but I'm going to spend some quality time behind both my NX8 4-32 and XTR Pro side by side and see how it shakes out. If I love the XTR Pro maybe I grab another one of those? Who knows. Without even looking through it, not sure I'd spend $2K on the Burris though. If that's the case I'd be curious how the S3 stacks up again the XTR Pro. The demo that someone pointed me towards at Eurooptic is only a a couple bucks more than that what the XTR Pro is going for in SCR2, and the SCR2 1/4 mils I can find now are going for equal too or more than that demo model.

Still waffling on whether to try the Bushnell for the savage rimfire. I really wish I could look through one without committing to it first.

I wish there was someplace to look through all these optics without purchasing them. All the advice and help is great, but there is still a lot of subjective element to the whole equation.

Anyway, appreciate all the input.

There is... Not sure where you're at, but EuroOptic has a MASSIVE new showroom in Pennsylvania, and they said they have one of everything they sell on display for you to get hands-on with.

n2ishun · Jul 17, 2024

Well there is here, which most consider one of the better shops to purchase from...

Burris Optics Closeouts

Designed, machined, and assembled in the United States, the Burris Xtreme Tactical riflescope is a prime example of expert riflescope craftsmanship. While supplies last, enjoy huge savings on select Burris Xtreme Tactical II & III riflescopes

www.eurooptic.com

I'd be wondering why they are on closeout though.....
Perhaps a makeover is in the works ?

Having trouble using the site?

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