man he didn't find a spot he found The Spot and took the shot and im half thinking God himself had a hand in trumps survival.a kill spot?
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View thread Contact supportman he didn't find a spot he found The Spot and took the shot and im half thinking God himself had a hand in trumps survival.a kill spot?
this wasn't a mile, it was 150 yards.Think about it this way, the secret service only has so many personnel. When they come into town and ask for help, they get local city PD, Sheriff's deputies, state patrol, local state fairgrounds officers for a situation like this, all kinds of personnel for free and off of their limited budget.
Local police chief and sheriff and so on are happy to help out.
Local PD even covers all the intersections on the route to and from, roadway clear.
The Secret Service cannot possibly cover a mile around the location. Local PD covers all of the area outside of the secure area. That is the way it used to be done, and I know that from firsthand experience participating in it. Again, that was a while ago, so I do not have experience lately, and it may have changed, but from the sound of that article it is done the same way today as it was back then.
I was not excited at all to vote for Trump again based on everything he's done since COVID and his anti life rhetoric on the campaign but after this I'm all in again. If for nothing else he sure makes the shitheads reveal themselves for who they are. I just wish good people didn't have to die for it.You look at FB and you would think that July 13 did not exist. Nothing. Nada. Everytthing taken down. Everything covered. The blue hair dyke censor types are working 24 x 7 to utterly stamp out any idea that this happened..
And don't think people have not noticed.
The good news is that Elon Musk has gone all-in on supporting Trump. Not just financially. But with X/Twitter and with his finances. He has way more followers than any of the leftist asshats and one word from him trends instantly.
So... the social media this time is not loaded 100 percent against America. It's going to be an equal battle. And arguably, X/Twitter/Instagram is much stronger. FB is for old fudds like us. It's sooooo 2007. IMHO, this censorship is going to push more people off.
The good news is that the events of this weekend are going to galvanize so many folks... Christians who think Trump was blessed. People who just watched the left celebrate an assassination attempt. Biden's completely retarded blubbering, incoherent response and the media BS... that is so transparent.
When Reagan was shot, he went up 22 points in the polls overnight and almost never gave that up. His popularity soared and stuck with him throughout his presidency. Which is one of the reasons the Left worked so hard to destroy him. And is continuing to work to destroy Trump. It's not Trump. It's Trump's 'cut taxes and regulations/smaller govt.' platform that echoes Reagan. And both times, the plan created economic boom times. That is UTTERLY in the face of socialist Keynesian economics that says only Government Spending and Regulation can create a healthy economy. In short... capitalism must be stomped out and government must control the economy. That would be communism/socialism/facism in whatever form you want to call it.
So it will be interesting to see what the Convention and the July 13 bump do. And what happens when we see the DNC convention in a couple of weeks. Because I guarantee that is going to make Chicago 68 look like Romper Room. The batshit crazies are going to turn it into a circus and Biden is going to be a drooling empty suit in front of the entire DNC Hierarchy. Will he get a poll bump? Or is he going to swirl further down the toilet of self-immolation.
Remember.... it's all about politics...
Cheers,
Sirhr
It could be that the counter snipers saw the people near the shooters position waving their arms and pointing to the position. That could have alerted them and put them on scope. Either way Trump should have been pulled from stageI just came to say the same thing about the timeline, which nobody can argue.
We know for a fact that the call went over the net that there was a threat with a weapon moving into position.
How do we know this? Because the counter-sniper team was oriented towards the shooter intently and actively searching or scanning for him. Why were they doing that? Because the call went over the net.
This means the PPD right there near Trump would have gotten that notification as well.
Under SS protocol, when they get the update that someone with a weapon is in or near the venue, they pounce on the Principle and evac them, so the assassin can’t get a shot.
This is where we can clearly say there was an absolute failure, and there are no excuses for it, nobody to blame or deflect to. If they try to pull the, “We didn’t hear it in time.” excuse, they are the ones who are in charge of the comms plan. They are the ones who set up the comms plan, brevity codes, broke down all the sectors, color-coded the sectors, and coordinated everything with the local and State LEOs. They are the absolute lead agency in this whole deal.
Given what we’ve seen with unedited, raw video, and the totality of that initial evidence, the SS is looking complicit in allowing this to happen.
Rifle the shooter used was a Ruger AR556+ 3moa rifle
I was in 4th grade in Ft. Lewis Wash. when JFK was shot. Girls were crying in the lunch line. School was cancelled next day and the whole state was in silent mourning.When I was in junior high, our history teacher assigned us this really cool project where we had to interview 5 people who were adults at the time JFK was assassinated and write down their experiences. Only 2 could be family members.
I interviewed our next-door neighbor, who was from Arkansas. He said kids were running up and down the hallways in school cheering, “That commie bastard is dead!". Remember the wanted signs that were posted in the newspaper and pinned up all over Dallas?
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There were a lot of people that were happy when JFK was killed, many of them Democrats. The Nation did not all go into mourning.
To hopefully make any would-be copycats think twice. Instead we have USSS and local PD pointing fingers at each other, USSS saying they won't allocate additional resources, etc. Somewhere there's a balance between maintaining OPSEC and presenting a strong show of force.there may well be, I'd be surprised if a certain someone we've all heard of hadn't at least reached out to Mr Trump as he's been so vocal on Twitter.
but why broadcast security improvements? I just hope to God they're made hard and fast.
It was a palmetto-ish AR15 with a cheap scope. The little creep was on target but Trump moved at just the right time.
kids running down the hallways in school laughing and calling JFK a commie
The problem is the LEO who allegedly had a gun pointed at him when he confronted the shooter would have immediately put the call out over the net. “GUN GUN GUN sector Blue, on the roof of building!"
He’s not going to just have that happen and say, “I think I’ll go get a donut and not tell anyone.”
"A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer then retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, the officials said."
Body half off the roof, feet still on the rungs, hands holding the ladder with no good way to draw a side arm without falling off the ladder. Then a rifle gets leveled at you? That's a situation that a reasonable person nopes the hell out of, and finds a better solution.Yeah I've never heard anything like that about the Kennedy assassination.
"A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer then retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, the officials said."
In Dallas Some Schoolchildren Cheered the Day JFK was ShotI was in 4th grade in Ft. Lewis Wash. when JFK was shot. Little girls cried in the lunch line. School was cancelled next day and the whole state was in silent mourning.
I remember seeing a lone kid riding his bike around on the empty street and thought it was disrespectful. The idea of kids running down the hallways in school laughing and calling JFK a commie didn't happen, at least not where I lived. The term 'commie' was not even in common use then.
Do you know what sight was on the rifle?Rifle the shooter used was a Ruger AR556
I returned to Texas a couple weeks after the assassination and Texas and the tone was muted, respectful and very sad. I witnessed nothing you describe.In Dallas Some Schoolchildren Cheered the Day JFK was Shot
The historical record of many people, including ones in prominent positions, professionals, schoolchildren, and their parents that celebrated JFK’s assassination is without question and well documented. Doctors were on record for saying, “Good. I hope they got Jackie.” Richard Ely of the Citizen’s Council (segregationists) said, "I firmly believe Mr. Kennedy died a tyrant's death. He did not set back communism. He encouraged integration, which has the support of communism. He was a tyrant"
Malcolm X said, “It was a case of “chickens coming home to roost", and added that "chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they've always made me glad."
I think perhaps loud shit talking Democrats are now considering the possibility of being targeted by a “crazy” themselves. Suddenly not so loud and confident. They are remembering all the personal interactions where they treated some insignificant nobody terribly and laughed about it. Mentally sound people don’t do public assassinations, but there are some dummies out there.You look at FB and you would think that July 13 did not exist. Nothing. Nada. Everytthing taken down. Everything covered. The blue hair dyke censor types are working 24 x 7 to utterly stamp out any idea that this happened..
And don't think people have not noticed.
The good news is that Elon Musk has gone all-in on supporting Trump. Not just financially. But with X/Twitter and with his finances. He has way more followers than any of the leftist asshats and one word from him trends instantly.
So... the social media this time is not loaded 100 percent against America. It's going to be an equal battle. And arguably, X/Twitter/Instagram is much stronger. FB is for old fudds like us. It's sooooo 2007. IMHO, this censorship is going to push more people off.
The good news is that the events of this weekend are going to galvanize so many folks... Christians who think Trump was blessed. People who just watched the left celebrate an assassination attempt. Biden's completely retarded blubbering, incoherent response and the media BS... that is so transparent.
When Reagan was shot, he went up 22 points in the polls overnight and almost never gave that up. His popularity soared and stuck with him throughout his presidency. Which is one of the reasons the Left worked so hard to destroy him. And is continuing to work to destroy Trump. It's not Trump. It's Trump's 'cut taxes and regulations/smaller govt.' platform that echoes Reagan. And both times, the plan created economic boom times. That is UTTERLY in the face of socialist Keynesian economics that says only Government Spending and Regulation can create a healthy economy. In short... capitalism must be stomped out and government must control the economy. That would be communism/socialism/facism in whatever form you want to call it.
So it will be interesting to see what the Convention and the July 13 bump do. And what happens when we see the DNC convention in a couple of weeks. Because I guarantee that is going to make Chicago 68 look like Romper Room. The batshit crazies are going to turn it into a circus and Biden is going to be a drooling empty suit in front of the entire DNC Hierarchy. Will he get a poll bump? Or is he going to swirl further down the toilet of self-immolation.
Remember.... it's all about politics...
Cheers,
Sirhr
it looked to be a scope with a semi large objective but I only seen blurry picsDo you know what sight was on the rifle?
Grew up in Dallas and everyone in my extremely conservative family was sad and mornful after the shooting. I never heard of anyone celebrating.I returned to Texas a couple weeks after the assassination and Texas and the tone was muted, respectful and very sad. I witnessed nothing you describe.
The blurry pic I saw made me think agog or acog knock off.it looked to be a scope with a semi large objective but I only seen blurry pics
On the shooters rifle? Currently speculation is that it was a reflex sight or iron sights. Here is a photo of the gun from the aerial view.it looked to be a scope with a semi large objective but I only seen blurry pics
Its a woman. Shes the first female Counter Sniper in USSS history. I will not be sharing her information, but I can 100% confirm this.
You are missing the point. The do not secure an area that large. The secured area has controlled entry points and searches with metal detectors. There is only so large that area can be. Everything outside is patrolled or secured by locals. That is the case even for current Presidents, or, let me say it used to be.this wasn't a mile, it was 150 yards.
Body half off the roof, feet still on the rungs, hands holding the ladder with no good way to draw a side arm without falling off the ladder. Then a rifle gets leveled at you? That's a situation that a reasonable person nopes the hell out of, and finds a better solution.
The video on Twitter? Not real.Is anybody seeing the "I hate Republicans; I hate Trump" video Crooks recorded being played on the news? Are they mentioning it? I would not even know about it if not for this thread.
Anybody?
This is a great example of anecdotes vs larger data where people don’t know the history they lived through. The people I cited are on record for celebrating JFK’s assassination. Remember all the division about JFK mobilizing tens of thousands of soldiers he sent to quell the Mississippi riots after forced desegregation? Ole Mississippi Riot of Sep-Oct 1962I returned to Texas a couple weeks after the assassination and Texas and the tone was muted, respectful and very sad. I witnessed nothing you describe.
Unfortunately, probably not.Will this change his stance on the Second Amendment?
My wife pulled it up on FakeBook Saturday night. He said, “If you’re looking for Thomas Mathew Crooks, I’m not your guy. I hate Republicans; I hate Trump.” Looked like him.The video on Twitter? Not real.
Thanks.The video on Twitter? Not real.
I've seen pics in this thread more recently that I actually believe to have been the shooter. I haven't shared any pics except deceased body pics so I'm positive I'm not slandering anybody or anything. got to be careful of idiots on the interwebs sharing bullshit.Thanks.
Dammit, I was taken in.
Apparently one of the most popular pictures on the internet is not even him, either.
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No, this photo is not of Trump rally shooting suspect Thomas Matthew Crooks
Do these images show Thomas Matthew Crooks, the man named by the FBI as the suspect in the attempted assassination of fowww.politifact.com
Fucking internet trolls. Why do folks waste their time trying to fool everybody?
Posted at least four times.Interesting
Not sure if already posted.
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(Bloomberg) -- Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old gunman who shot and injured former President Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally, briefly appeared in an advertisement for BlackRock Inc., the company said on Sunday. Most Read from BloombergTrump Shooting Changes Biden’s Plan to Revive 2024...www.yahoo.com
My bad. This thread is growing so fast it’s hard to keep upPosted at least four times.
It makes perfect sense that the local police departments cover the outer buildings. Supposedly a cop found a ladder against the building, climbed up and saw the shooter. Then ran away.
Butler PA is a smaller town they probably had 1-2 guys hanging around that building/parking lot thinking nothing would happen.
The problem is the LEO who allegedly had a gun pointed at him when he confronted the shooter would have immediately put the call out over the net. “GUN GUN GUN sector Blue, on the roof of building!"
He’s not going to just have that happen and say, “I think I’ll go get a donut and not tell anyone.”
Yeah I've never heard anything like that about the Kennedy assassination.
"A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer then retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, the officials said."
The problem is the LEO who allegedly had a gun pointed at him when he confronted the shooter would have immediately put the call out over the net. “GUN GUN GUN sector Blue, on the roof of building!"
He’s not going to just have that happen and say, “I think I’ll go get a donut and not tell anyone.”