Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!

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Before Pepsi, she served for 27 years in the USSS. I believe she was in charge of Biden's detail when he was VP. She's clearly corrupt, incompetent, and should be stripped of any retirement/benefits for her complete and utter failure, but let's not pretend they pulled her name out of thin air.
Again, I'll correct this again. She did not fail at anything she was appointed for by Jill Biden as a co-conspirator in her role to assassinate Pres. Trump.

Yeah, I'd say she needs to have her retirement/benifits stripped, along with her street clothes, in exchange for an orange jump suit while waiting to stand trial in Gitmo.
 
It doesn't matter what he does.

When he wins, the Left is 110% going to create multiple shitshows on as big a scale as they can muster in order to hinder his effectiveness and mute his popularity.

Don't be surprised if they precipitate some dirty shit.
False flag, black swan events are not off the table with those pricks.

They will absolutely burn the country down if that is what insures the retention of their power positions.
They will do whatever it takes to prevent being implicated and they will do so with with the full force of the MSM behind them.
There is a lake community on the north shore of Lake Travis that has become a shit magnet for the far Left. They announced on Nextdoor that they were organizing an anti-violence community group in the event there is retaliation and violence fromTrump supporters.

What do they have planned to cause retaliation and such paranoia?
 
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Before Pepsi, she served for 27 years in the USSS. I believe she was in charge of Biden's detail when he was VP. She's clearly corrupt, incompetent, and should be stripped of any retirement/benefits for her complete and utter failure, but let's not pretend they pulled her name out of thin air.
My bad... she was a USSS DEI bimbo before she went to protect snack food and fizzy drinks!

Her performance tells me she was far more qualified to protect potatoes and potato chips (and Cool Ranch Doritos) than she was to be on a detail. Or run the whole outfit.

But thanks for the correction. I should have googled her harder. (well, that sounds kinky!)

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
Multiple law enforcement source have now reported that 8 casings were found on the roof near Crooks body. I didn't see this posted here, but maybe I just missed it.

https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/081933E3-0688-4BA8-B3C5-8417716FF520
Is there a picture of them placed in a perfect line like the spent casings found below Oswald's supposed sniper's window in the School Book Depository?

It doesn't matter if there were was one shooter or two or three. We'll never know. What we do know is the SS stood down and allowed Crooks to take his shots before taking him out after the former president was shot.
 
There is a lake community on the north shore of Lake Travis that has become a shit magnet for the far Left. They announced on Nextdoor that they were organizing an anti-violence community group in the event there is retaliation and violence fromTrump supporters.

What do they have planned to cause retaliation and such paranoia?
That pretty much tells me that somebody/some group is doing an excellent job of scaring the hell out of those people.

That's a damn shame but it's effective in feeding a chain reaction hysteria. There is no telling what kind of crap they have been told. Sadly, a lot of the left lack any sense of logic, common sense or the ability to think things through.

Having that community scared and on high alert along with hundreds or thousands of other similar communities across the country is a disaster waiting to happen. The elite that program the leftist voters have systematically been piling kindling like Lake Travis around the country. All they have to do is say "Boo!" and everything will ignite.

The actual unelected leaders will laugh their asses off as their left leaning sheep go to guns to "protect themselves" from the violent conservatives.

It's not a matter of if but when. We need to make sure they aren't given any actual reason to worry about such. Maybe, just maybe if one side can act responsible and keep the lid on in the face of danger, at least a few on their side can see that they have been lied to and misled.
 
You gonna tell me that Crooks took 8 shots BEFORE someone took him out?
Did he also have a deed to a bridge in his pocket?

Someone leaked a pic of the "Blowed Up Sir" face, you can bet the whole scene on the roof was documented.
With those plastic evidence markers and rulers and stuff on the roof?
 
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She was head of security for PepsiCo/Frito Lay before she became HMFWIC of the USSS. A job for which she had no qualifications. Other than having tits and being a friend of Jill.

On the other hand, the dumb twat did keep large shipments of Cool Ranch Doritos safe for the stoner community for years.

Fucking DEI gash!

Sirhr
Did she not retire from the Secret Service before working for Pepsi? Or was that someone else?
Edit: covered above.
 
It doesn't matter what he does.

When he wins, the Left is 110% going to create multiple shitshows on as big a scale as they can muster in order to hinder his effectiveness and mute his popularity.

Don't be surprised if they precipitate some dirty shit.
False flag, black swan events are not off the table with those pricks.

They will absolutely burn the country down if that is what insures the retention of their power positions.
They will do whatever it takes to prevent being implicated and they will do so with with the full force of the MSM behind them.
Well, then thats the way it is. The U.S. is going down in flames for sure if they are allowed to stay in power.

"These things gotta happen every 5 years or so, 10 years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood."
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You gonna tell me that Crooks took 8 shots BEFORE someone took him out?
It's not a stretch to think that 75% of this forum could.

A low recoiling 5.56 semi from under a 140yds. First shot or two aimed and another quick 6 or so into the general direction?
2 seconds at the most.

That would be pretty realistic in my limited opinion.
 
It's not a stretch to think that 75% of this forum could.

A low recoiling 5.56 semi from under a 140yds. First shot or two aimed and another quick 6 or so into the general direction?
2 seconds at the most.

That would be pretty realistic in my limited opinion.

Exactly what I was thinking. He took 1-2 intentional shots and then fired off a few in the general direction as shit got real.
 
Must have misread your post
"A low recoiling 5.56 semi from under a 140yds. First shot or two aimed and another quick 6 or so into the general direction?
2 seconds at the most."


What is the Consensus for time for the first 8 shots?
And now, HOW MANY RIFLES WERE FIRED?
WHO FIRED SHOT # 9 ?
And, how long after shot #1?
ALL Audio is suspect now.

OK, my apologies for the misinterpretation of the point you made.
 
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Must have misread your post
"A low recoiling 5.56 semi from under a 140yds. First shot or two aimed and another quick 6 or so into the general direction?
2 seconds at the most."
Yes.
You like WAY misread and certainly misinterpreted it.

I was referring to 75% of this forum being able to make a 2 second hack on that 8rd string.
I have no clue whether the shooter took 1 second or 10.

I stand by my point, that it is very reasonable to think the shooter got 8 rounds out before being hit.
 
Must have misread your post
"A low recoiling 5.56 semi from under a 140yds. First shot or two aimed and another quick 6 or so into the general direction?
2 seconds at the most."


What is the Consensus for time for the first 8 shots?
And now, HOW MANY RIFLES WERE FIRED?
WHO FIRED SHOT # 9 ?
And, how long after shot #1?
I have no idea.
I am not smart enough to get an accurate hack on his shot string.
I was simply countering your post regarding the probability of the shooter getting 8 rds out before being killed.

You really aught to knock that into two separate posts.
One post for trying to throw shade on my reply and a separate one for your other ponderings.
 


Perfect table there for shooting prone.

Does anyone also find it odd, that the window they were “allegedly “ in, restricts a major portion of their ability to cover area?? Like they only have a 90* area they are effective from because the window only opens out 90*. And then also, a major area they’d be effective from in that building, is blocked by the very same building the shooter was on…. Maybe I’m missing something
 
Some are still trying to unravel what the balance of your post 2868 means?

"Check the waste basket for DoNut boxes.

So, someone makes a "Law Enforcement told me" statement and the whole gist of this analytical thread makes a 180?
Watch for disappearing posts."


Who is someone and why are you worried that someone is going to delete your post? Has that been a thing?
 
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All those that posted 3 rifle analysis, shot audio, should now delete their posts.

And I first started watching posts count days ago after a few Disappeared (not mine), just like one thread disappeared.
To Terry Cross:
You didn't seem to subscribe to conspiracy theories in this long thread. Some did, some didn't you didn't.

The video just posted shows the window WAS OPEN and if they leaned out could have easily seen the shooter.
Prone on the table would have been a bad setup with limited sight lines.
Even a tripod would have limited coverage.
Crookes was 33.56 yards from the window. Off hand would work.
 
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It's funny listening to folks bray on about Cheeto's testimony yesterday... And her inability to answer questions or being unforthcoming (or clueless.)

Folks, it's none of those. She is merely saying "Screw off. Noone is going to touch me. Me and my whole agency are doing what we want. And there is nothing you can do about it."

The same was true about the 'sloped roof.' That was not a "I am stupid about sloped roofs" kind of gaffe. That was "screw you. I can say the most outrageous possible stupid thing and noone is going to do anything about it. Not to me... not to the agency. Not to the administration. We are all untouchable because we have the Executive Deep state, a corrupt DoJ and a tame/propaganda press behind us. So screw you.

It is Orwellian. It is scary. But it's the whole administration's dictatorship in a nutshell. "You will desist" say the courts. "No, say the bureaucrats. Make us. You Supreme's don't have an army. Fuck off." "You will seal the borders..." say Congress or courts. "No. In fact, we are opening them more and have a 11 million person army ready to mobilize in the heartland, so fuck of." "You can't make your own regulations under Chevron," says the court. "We can and we will continue and we will enforce with brute determination anything we want to against any one." "We have Habeus Corpus," says the Constitution. "We don't care and will keep protesters in jail for years, uncharged, with fewer rights than people who flew planes into our buildings. Fuck off. We will continue."

It's not stupidity or incompetence. It is simply saying "Screw off. You can't touch us."

Look at what they are doing with their OWN party election/primary? 14 million people 'chose' Biden. Millions more donated to him. And the answer now is "meh, his polling is bad and we are going to replace him."

We are living through a coup... Then again, so was the removal of Nixon. By the same leftist forces that are currently in senior leadership. DIfference is back then they were nasty little corrupt commie youth 'community organizers.'

Just 'sayin.

Sirhr
best summation of the assassination attempt and its sequelae floating around on line. said it myself. they are no longer hiding or attempting to hide their actions. that is the difference between 2020,1/6 and covid. their use of brute force is going to escalate.
 
So, you actually believe the people, the side, that ignited a firestorm of domestic terrorism in the summer of 2020 under the excuse of George Floyd's death and recently tried to assassinate our president need a reason to start a civil war?
Absolutely not.
Don't read my post as an all encompassing diatribe.

The shitheads responsible making headlines during the post Floyd days are a different breed from the people you referred to in your post.

I think the Lake Travis North Shore lefties you referred to are a different flavor of stupid than the fucking illiterate animal mobs that made headlines burning down sections of cities during the Floyd lies. They are different but alike at the same time and both are tools in the leftist tool box.
They will self-ignite if Trump wins. They may anyway if Cumswalla Harris is their candidate and he kicks her ass in the polls. She's the female warlord wannabe that fanned the flames and encouraged people to riot and murder in 2020.
Agreed. I have already said as much in other posts.
 
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Good she needed to but she still needs to answer the questions that she never answered. All yesterday’s hearing did was raise more questions than answers.
like most of these "congressional investigations" this one was also kabuki theater. will result in strongly worded letters,harsh criticisms by congressmen,appeals to the "american people" for "coming together" and jack shit else. nothing will be done and nothing will change.

BTW her resignation is also a planned part of the show.
 
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To Terry Cross:
You didn't seem to subscribe to conspiracy theories in this long thread. Some did, some didn't you didn't.
I'm not going to try to subscribe to conspiracy theories if I don't have enough information to form a solid opinion.

Are the ABC agencies fucking with us? Yes.
Are we ever going to get enough facts to come to a reasonable conclusion one way or another? No

Are there a shit ton of videos and comments from both sides that are misleading and downright incorrect? Yes

There is a buttload of shit I don't know about what happened. As untrusting and cautious as I am about what we are "officially" told, I still try to balance my raw opinions with what little I do know. They are going to fuck with us enough without any of our own side jumping to too many wild conclusions and muddying the water even further.

You are again incorrect about whether I subscribe to conspiracy theories. I'm not here to make myself "seem" to do or believe anything.

Me not posting and dumping more potential incorrect information into the thread does not equal me not believing in a conspiracy or cover-up. Some of the posts in this thread are so far out of the realm of possibility that it is laughable. Also, lots of good posts and points well made. A good thread will make us think something through and debate is healthy.

I'm a competitive person but I am not going to be active in a race to the bottom by posting or baiting something I can't backup.
 
I'm not going to try to subscribe to conspiracy theories if I don't have enough information to form a solid opinion.

Are the ABC agencies fucking with us? Yes.
Are we ever going to get enough facts to come to a reasonable conclusion one way or another? No

Are there a shit ton of videos and comments from both sides that are misleading and downright incorrect? Yes

There is a buttload of shit I don't know about what happened. As untrusting and cautious as I am about what we are "officially" told, I still try to balance my raw opinions with what little I do know. They are going to fuck with us enough without any of our own side jumping to too many wild conclusions and muddying the water even further.

You are again incorrect about whether I subscribe to conspiracy theories. I'm not here to make myself "seem" to do or believe anything.

Me not posting and dumping more potential incorrect information into the thread does not equal me not believing in a conspiracy or cover-up. Some of the posts in this thread are so far out of the realm of possibility that it is laughable. Also, lots of good posts and points well made. A good thread will make us think something through and debate is healthy.

I'm a competitive person but I am not going to be active in a race to the bottom by posting or baiting something I can't backup.
Same here. Trust me, I think some conspiracies are true and not really hidden. Done right in front of you and laughing at you. And this is not the first time.

But, whether patsy or not, Thomas Crook was on that roof, regardless of LIHOP or not. Like Pearl Harbor being LIHOP. The japs could have simply decided not to do that.

And so, yeah, a bunch of videos and ideas running around.

I try not to atribute malice to what is essentially incompetence. I watch the show "Criminal Minds," about the FBI's Behavioral Anlysis Unit (their name for it.) I see Dr. Reid, a genius. But what we get, IRL, is Homer Simpson, callsign "Doh!"

We see a fed such as US Marshal Gerard played by Tommy "I don't care!" Lee Jones but what we get is Keystone Kops.

Or, it was a complete set-up. And look at how they failed at that. Just pretend it was an "inside job." They could not bring down a man in his late 70s in the middle of a small town with all kinds of rooves nearby and at least 3 good shots before the melee'. "You had one job!"

They fail at assassinations, they fail at security, they fail at even explaining themselves. At least the idiot DEI-hired director resigned.

Short version, a guy shot at Trump, made a first round hit. Then CS took him out. Upshot, Trump is alive. And called the families of the other victims while potato circles the drain.
 
what we get is

Agree.

Regular people ... to your point.

The alphabets aren't filled to the gills with Jason Bournes, mind hunters and mentalists.

Those guys on the roof were just trying to figure out what happened and relatively quickly separated what they "know" from what they "think" and a pile of shit to be sorted later.
 
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The alphabets aren't filled to the gills with Jason Bournes, mind hunters and mentalists.
Yep. It is quite the opposite actually. Back in the day, Ol Barrack (the original DEI instigator) opened up thousands of jobs in the LE sector of the federal government. Was blatantly hiring folks with zero qualifications other than the color of their skin or what was between their legs. All those people are now firmly entrenched in the bureaucracy and have zero intentions of giving up their pensions.
 
These threads just cause confusion. Too many assumptions, no actual first hand knowledge, things that can be easily debunked, and some that seem to make sense.

25-30 years ago, 3-4 news agencies putting the story and the information out. 80% of us went along with it.

Today, who the fuck knows what occured. Too many internet non-crime scene investigators.

At this point, I know one ear shot (maybe, ive not actually seen an ear wound), one man killed (seems pretty solid), another shot (seems pretty solid), and one dead kid on a roof (ID of kid, gun, cartridge????). That is all I trust, because everyone seems to agree on that. Maybe the people in the stands shot themself????maybe kid is an alien???? However, Im 99% sure those items mentioned happened.

NEW history tells me that all major events are not what they seem. Im just gonna guess the rest on my own. I was confident "they" were going to take a shot at him and "they" did. I dont know who "they" is, and will just assume "they" are the same people that publically talk shit about Trump. The rest of this thread......dont care, all speculation.

Anybody assuming knowledge is to be gained in this thread......HILARIOUS, but I look forward to the full report. It's entertainment at best.
 
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The video just posted shows the window WAS OPEN and if they leaned out could have easily seen the shooter.
Prone on the table would have been a bad setup with limited sight lines.
Even a tripod would have limited coverage.
Crookes was 33.56 yards from the window. Off hand would work.
You don’t get it, do you
The Alphabet agent on the table in the room was the real shooter, and missed due to Trump ducking his head
Crooks was the patsy on the roof to provide a cover story
 
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Please, the dems lost to Trump by a landslide in 2020 and blatantly stole the election as the entire world watched. You really think this changes anything to the current power's agenda? What the government pays for it gets.
Look at the swing though in big tech who have pledged to back Trump.

In 2016, big tech was fully backing Hillary, even with $2.2 Billion from Google alone, as evidenced by Eric Schmidt from Google in the Podesta emails. The Trump campaign still found a way to overcome the corruption and election-rigging in 2016, so the powers-that-be adjusted.

I think what’s happening now is that especially after the attempt, there’s an obvious major split in big tech giants and they are pitting themselves against the legacy. This is why they placed Vance as VP as their guy for when Trump does actually pass away or finishes his term.

If you notice, a lot of the tech companies and top 20 industries have been seeing the real economics, and the business community knows Dems are enemies to the economy due to energy policy and other bad policies.

Some of them recognize a legitimate threat to the US, which is the main economy that drives their overall success. When the threat becomes existential, people wisen-up real quick.

The older leaders don’t care because they’re on their way out anyway, have achieved legacy. The younger business leaders from Gen X especially despise the ones who have done the damage and created/fed into the status quo at the expense of others.
 
I think the biggest conspiracy is not this shooter. I think it’s the crappy security pdjt probably had for months ( years?). This probably isn’t the first time they left a kill shot hide wide open. It’s just the first time someone was smart ( lucky) enough to act on it
Investigation should look back how many times they’ve left an opportunity. Whether on purpose or negligently ( same thing).
 
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Looks like a windage knob on whatever optic is on the AR-15, maybe a prism scope? Is anyone else seeing what I’m seeing? Go full screen and zoom in. Go to 1:18 in the above video from the helmet cam.
Shooter’s rifle; look like a 16”, maybe an 18” barrel, and what looks like a red dot to me:

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…and yeah, no idea what this is though. Maybe a magnifier of some kind flipped over on a flip to the side mount, or maybe the counter sniper’s bullet hit whatever this is on the way to Crook’s nugget. Would explain why there’s not as much skull deformation as I’d expected.

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Shooter’s rifle; look like a 16”, maybe an 18” barrel, and what looks like a red dot to me:

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…and yeah, no idea what this is though. Maybe a magnifier of some kind flipped over on a flip to the side mount, or maybe the counter sniper’s bullet hit whatever this is on the way to Crook’s nugget. Would explain why there’s not as much skull deformation as I’d expected.

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Offset irons.