I think your expectations are on the upper end of what is realistically possible. 1/2 MOA gas-guns are rare things, 1/2 MOA shooters are equally few and far between.
We have unlimited resources so to speak on this project. Alpha brass, Berger hybrids and a plethora of powders to test will be the foundation.
Right now it’s just factory ammo. Same uppers I’m using on my 1/2 moa 223 gas guns. The barrel is solid. It’s grouping like that with all the barrels I’ve seen. About an inch
If that's all it's for there is already a 6 arc thread for that........in the............wait for it..........reloading section.
if only there were. The search button on mine is wore out. All I see is light bullets, or 105 with lever and no posted groups. I find posts asking the same shit redundant too but I’m not finding answers. The bolt gun guys are doing great but not a lot of gas gun with heavies info that I’ve seen.
Shit a solid PRS gun should be 1/2. If my 223 gas guns can do it. It too much to ask for 6arc?
The 223 builds will do 1/2 with 5 and 10 to 5/8 all day. With factory. I just want the 6arc to do better than the occasional 1”
Oh I see. I am sure now that you asked the same shit redundant question again everyone will have the answers you want.
It would be if they were getting results. All good results I’ve seen are from loading longer in bolts. Just wondering if anyone has with a gasser. But I tell ya what. Go digging and find the answers to what I asked in the post in the reloading thread and I’ll send you a free sticker. It would save a lot of time
Oops my bad. The "6mm advanced rifle cartridge" thread is not in the reloading section. It's in the semi auto section. I would post a link but I am afraid you would try to send me a sticker.It would be if they were getting results. All good results I’ve seen are from loading longer in bolts. Just wondering if anyone has with a gasser. But I tell ya what. Go digging and find the answers to what I asked in the post in the reloading thread and I’ll send you a free sticker. It would save a lot of time
Cmon it’s a super cool stickerOops my bad. The "6mm advanced rifle cartridge" thread is not in the reloading section. It's in the semi auto section. I would post a link but I am afraid you would try to send me a sticker.
not tons of info. It's a niche cartridge thats even more niche in gas guns. There is lots load data via hornady and hodgdon. The smaller case tends to perform well with an energy dense ball powder. Lever, cfe223, 2520.
I appreciate the info. I just wish you’d reconsider the stickers. I’ll have my lawyer talk to your lawyerI will post a link but you have to sign a contract not to try send me a stickers. I will have ma lawyer write something up. It might take a couple days. I dont think there is any boilerplate for this.
It's right at the top in the stickies.
I think the fact that most grendel shooter don't shoot 140s is clue that the 6 arc might be better with something a step or two down from the heaviest heavey.
If there was a 100 yard class for centerfire rifles,1/2 moa wouldn't place....
I would guess it's throat burner like Varget maybe? No exeperice with any VV powders.
LVR and CFE223 aren't temp stable and generally aren't super consistent for velocities even if you can get a load to shoot fine at 100y, your SDs/ESs will suffer at long range.
Staball 6.5 is not a good match for 6arc.....too slow. Staball match has potential.
I put everything at 2.245" just to make sure it ran. You could probably go a little longer but I never messed with it.
Dont know. Still shot well and functioned so I didn't think to look
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Read my statement again. I said that if you shot 1moa all day long you wouldn't miss a target. I guess you've got me on the bowling pins and some odd shaped targets though. I do remember seeing targets that were sub moa in one dimension, and then 3 or 4 moa the other way. I have seen that. 1 moa is the same at 100y as it is at 5,000y. If you shoot 1moa at every target, then 1moa is good enough. Now, that's hard to do, but my statement stands. 50%+ are 2moa or larger as you well know. I was just making the point that if you had a rifle that shot 1moa as a new shooter, your gun won't be holding you back.
Me ? Ha hahaha
N540 is a great powder I use it all the time. Burns much cleaner than Lever and I get good velocities. N530 is available as well but it's extremely fast burning and I would only recommend for lighter bullets 95gr and under. I'm currently in the experimental stage figuring out what I will use to replace Lever. Lever just burns too dirty and is definitely temp sensitive. Just to give you a a rough idea I can get 2800 + or - with both N540 and Lever no problem. I have a 25" McGowan barrel with +2 gas. I've shot several thousand rounds through my 20,22,and 25" barrels combined so I've tried mucho different powders over the past few years. Also tried IMR 4895 which shoots great but is a bit slower than Lever or N540. Typically 50 fps give or take for a full case but it shoots really nice.
