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Say what you will but Putin isn't doing this blatant evil to Christians:
You still have freedom of religion in Russia
But apparently our government and our slimy Republicans are busy supporting an evil NWO stooge in the Ukraine that does this kind of stuff to churches.
You still have freedom of religion in Russia
But apparently our government and our slimy Republicans are busy supporting an evil NWO stooge in the Ukraine that does this kind of stuff to churches.
biden admin did essentially same here in many jurisdictions. supported and executed by our heros in LE.
our government closed churches but kept bath houses open.
you couldn't go to the beach, but you could riot and loot with thousands of others.
cops and riot troops look like candidates for the front. but the gov has to save their best for civil control. stalin saved his elites for the NKVD. hitler for general SS. anybody can be stuck in the cannon fodder COT role.
Reminder: If you don't suck putin's cock you must be a nazi lover! Bear pit rules man!
(Why can't we just eat popcorn and watch them fight)
I also see a lot of you were born after 1990. History man, look it up.
(Why can't we just eat popcorn and watch them fight)
I also see a lot of you were born after 1990. History man, look it up.
I’d say the big difference is we don’t try to rule over them. Of course, they’re not on our border either, so it’s a lot easier to be noble. I don’t think anyone would have guessed two decades inn the sandbox on 9/10/2001. Bush literally ran on isolationism if anyone remembers. I served under Clinton, and we were fucking everywhere in every brushfire there was.
Only Trump refused to get involved in other people’s conflicts, and refused to aid our enemies. He wanted out of the ME too, but he just wasn’t a fucking idiot about it.
i think installing a puppet regime is pretty much the same thing, but it always backfires.
the shah was ours, and then saddam was our creation after that fell apart...
but you know all this, and i am pretty sure that's why they framed trump, impeached him, tried and convicted him and tried to kill him.
they feed off the wars, and maybe the shit would be worse if the government wasn't spending that money...
but it still irks me that 100s of thousands of lives are being spent to feed that business.
allende,diem,big minh,rh,thieuee in with our help,sometimes a lot more. the soviets (stalin) were masters at installing puppets. us? not so good.
Nothing will open that guys eyes. We were never buddies . More of a casual acquaintance.
He is a full on media propaganda cultist ! Multi vaxxed kinda of cultist. His wife told my wife, she can't wait to get the next covid vax!
His wife was stunned that we have not had a single covid shot!
The longer some of these none site theme threads go on, the more its evident how many here have been vaccinated from thinking, for their selves. Guessing gobbling up their life long indoctrination, and having no will power, runs hand in hand. Yet we think when the rubber meets the road they will have our backs, laughing. They'll have your back all right, while pushing you into a train car for 1/4 a can of beans,...
It's easier that way. Just like a junkie, easier to "get away" than to face reality. Those really thick ones are pretty rare as you really have to be super dumb and without intelligence to actually truly believe in official stories and narratives. Most are semi to intelligent but their brain copes with life easier if it chooses to believe and they basically live their life through in denial. Thats why you see some of them acting so aggressively and emotionally when someone challenges "the lie" as they get into cognitive dissonance where collision between fake belief and rational knowledge collides and for such persons (or junkies as an extreme example) emotion will always win.
Nothing will open that guys eyes. We were never buddies . More of a casual acquaintance.
He is a full on media propaganda cultist ! Multi vaxxed kinda of cultist. His wife told my wife, she can't wait to get the next covid vax!
i bet they both get the covid more than non-jabbed too. ade seems to be working as planned from what i see.
Maybe I'm shallow, but I just don't hang out with leftists, period. Even if I kind of like them I am always thinking that they have no common sense, so whatever they say is of little or no value. Life is too short and I have too many really good friends I don't see enough to waste my time on morons.
I can’t be friends with leftist fucks!
Leftest assholes are the leading people on every list I know of, by a factor of 20. Once being proactive has no penalty's, the world will quickly be a better place.
Putin dictator, Putin murderer etc etc. Nothing new.
But I bet that many of you didn't know what a clowning, narcissistic idiot he is.
Here's the proof:
Even comrade Stalin would die of laugh
But I bet that many of you didn't know what a clowning, narcissistic idiot he is.
Here's the proof:
Even comrade Stalin would die of laugh
Putin does what is best for his country as most leaders do and yes i spent time under a school deck in the 50's and still love my country but i learned later in life ......the russians are NOT coming the russiana are NOT coming ....the red boggie man never was . Look who is getting arrested in the US / UK over protests, comrade putin is getting a laugh over that
I disagree.
I think Putin does what he believes is best for his country (whether we agree and/or like it or not).
You and I would hope that all leaders should do what is best for their country, but they do not.
There are a handful of standouts like El Salvador's Nayib Bukele and Hungary's Viktor Orbán that are truly watching out for their people, their borders, their economy, their national heritage and their freedoms but I have come to understand this behavior is rare.
Same here. Agreed.
We are under an intense wave of propaganda which has worked very well.
You can almost trace appearances of the stories in the news and social media coincident to the upslope in the graphs above.
99.99% of us and our "pundits" have no connection, no relatives, do not speak the language, do not know the history of, much less read or listen to the local news from the "other side" - making us such deliciously easy pickings in our own little echo chamber.
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Many people can't come to grips with the fact their lives and everything they thought they knew was a lie, that they sacrificed their time or lives for a machine that doesn't care about you and looks at you as a pawn for it's evil ways.
It's hard to convince someone they were wrong.
The other half are just plain fucking idiots with no reasoning skills.
I find it kind of ironic that all the people I hate and consider the enemy of freedom and individualism.....are using all their resources to tear down Russia since they refuse to play the NWO/WEF game.
Where there is smoke....
It's hard to convince someone they were wrong.
The other half are just plain fucking idiots with no reasoning skills.
I find it kind of ironic that all the people I hate and consider the enemy of freedom and individualism.....are using all their resources to tear down Russia since they refuse to play the NWO/WEF game.
Where there is smoke....
The united states biggest enemy has always been it's own government. A government run by leaders in rigged elections and by unelected bureaucrats. All these external threats are just excuses to look for blame outwards instead of inwards.
You can't blame another nation for their problems when you can't even fix your own house.
Speaking of propaganda... Pay attention to the color scheme.
The rest of the world isn't stupid.
Everything we see right now is more or less a form of "blowback..."
Such fancy, colorful names.
Almost all of Africa, a good deal of Latin America, and the majority of the old "IndoChina" have all expressed interest to join.
That's the rest of the world giving the anglosphere the middle finger.
To understand how big of a deal it is - color the relevant areas of the map above in "evil red" and see how little "valiant, heroic blue" there is.
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well we have some how managed to stay a super power for a couple of centuries and kept those pesky russian LST's from landing on the new jersey shores..........without snookies help
still sad how many people still don't know the real reasons for this proxy war.
the same people in our own government that tried to frame trump for russian collusion, impeach him for blackmailing ukraine, censored him and others for trying to expose the truth about pedo joe and his pedo son...had cut a deal with burisma long before the war....
the atlantic council has 7 former cia chiefs on their board...the same ones that signed that letter about hunter's laptop.
the atlantic council is funded by the mic. they signed this agreement with burisma shortly before trump became president.
the same people in our own government that tried to frame trump for russian collusion, impeach him for blackmailing ukraine, censored him and others for trying to expose the truth about pedo joe and his pedo son...had cut a deal with burisma long before the war....
the atlantic council has 7 former cia chiefs on their board...the same ones that signed that letter about hunter's laptop.
the atlantic council is funded by the mic. they signed this agreement with burisma shortly before trump became president.
Putin is only the bad guy because your govt told you so. lol.. Based on the behavior and tell tales of our current regime, im sure the cold war and everything else between them was all a ruse orchestrated by our CIA. Why do people still believe them? Its like TDS on a larger scale people havnt come to terms with yet. Look how they have the low IQ people hating trump, same tactics they used to get everyone to hate Putin.... playbook is on repeat.
Why the Ukraine Crisis is the West’s Fault
John J. Mearsheimer
The Real History of the War in Ukraine
A Chronology of Events and Case for Diplomacy
JEFFREY D. SACHS
JUL 17, 2023
By Jeffrey D. Sachs, Special to The Kennedy Beacon
The American people urgently need to know the true history of the war in Ukraine and its current prospects. Unfortunately, the mainstream media—The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, MSNBC, and CNN—have become mere mouthpieces of the government, repeating US President Joe Biden’s lies and hiding history from the public.
Biden is again denigrating Russian President Vladimir Putin, this time accusing Putin of a “craven lust for land and power,” after declaring last year that “For God’s sake, that man [Putin] cannot stay in power.” Yet Biden is the one who is trapping Ukraine in an open-ended war by continuing to push NATO enlargement to Ukraine. He is afraid to tell the truth to the American and Ukrainian people, rejecting diplomacy, and opting instead for perpetual war.
Expanding NATO to Ukraine, which Biden has long promoted, is a U.S. gambit that has failed. The neocons, including Biden, thought from the late 1990s onward that the US could expand NATO to Ukraine (and Georgia) despite Russia’s vociferous and long-standing opposition. They didn’t believe that Putin would actually go to war over NATO expansion.
Yet for Russia, NATO enlargement to Ukraine (and Georgia) is viewed as an existential threat to Russia’s national security, notably given Russia’s 2,000-km border with Ukraine, and Georgia’s strategic position on the eastern edge of the Black Sea. U.S. diplomats have explained this basic reality to U.S. politicians and generals for decades, but the politicians and generals have arrogantly and crudely persisted in pushing NATO enlargement nonetheless.
At this point, Biden knows full well that NATO enlargement to Ukraine would trigger World War III. That’s why behind the scenes Biden put NATO enlargement into low gear at the Vilnius NATO Summit. Yet rather than admit the truth – that Ukraine will not be part of NATO – Biden prevaricates, promising Ukraine’s eventual membership. In reality, he is committing Ukraine to ongoing bloodletting for no reason other than U.S. domestic politics, specifically Biden’s fear of looking weak to his political foes. (A half-century ago, Presidents Johnson and Nixon sustained the Vietnam War for essentially the same pathetic reason, and with the same lying, as the late Daniel Ellsberg brilliantly explained.)
Ukraine can’t win. Russia is more likely than not to prevail on the battlefield, as it seems now to be doing. Yet even if Ukraine were to break through with conventional forces and NATO weaponry, Russia would escalate to nuclear war if necessary to prevent NATO in Ukraine.
Throughout his entire career, Biden has served the military-industrial complex. He has relentlessly promoted NATO enlargement and supported America’s deeply destabilizing wars of choice in Afghanistan, Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and now Ukraine. He defers to generals who want more war and more “surges,” and who predict imminent victory just ahead to keep the gullible public onside.
Moreover, Biden and his team (Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Victoria Nuland) seem to have believed their own propaganda that Western sanctions would strangle the Russian economy, while miracle weapons such as HIMARS would defeat Russia. And all the while, they have been telling Americans to pay no attention to Russia’s 6,000 nuclear weapons.
Ukrainian leaders have gone along with the US deception for reasons that are hard to fathom. Perhaps they believe the US, or are afraid of the US, or fear their own extremists, or simply are extremists, ready to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to death and injury in the naïve belief that Ukraine can defeat a nuclear superpower that regards the war as existential. Or possibly some of the Ukrainian leaders are making fortunes by skimming from the tens of billions of dollars of Western aid and arms.
The only way to save Ukraine is a negotiated peace. In a negotiated settlement, the US would agree that NATO will not enlarge to Ukraine while Russia would agree to withdraw its troops. Remaining issues – Crimea, the Donbas, US and European sanctions, the future of European security arrangements – would be handled politically, not by endless war.
Russia has repeatedly tried negotiations: to try to forestall the eastward enlargement of NATO; to try to find suitable security arrangements with the US and Europe; to try to settle inter-ethnic issues in Ukraine after 2014 (the Minsk I and Minsk II agreements); to try to sustain limits on anti-ballistic missiles; and to try to end the Ukraine war in 2022 via direct negotiations with Ukraine. In all cases, the US government disdained, ignored, or blocked these attempts, often putting forward the big lie that Russia rather than the US rejects negotiations. JFK said it exactly right in 1961: “Let us never negotiate out of fear, but let us never fear to negotiate.” If only Biden would heed JFK’s enduring wisdom.
To help the public move beyond the simplistic narrative of Biden and the mainstream media, I offer a brief chronology of some key events leading to the ongoing war.
January 31, 1990. German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich-Genscher pledges to Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that in the context of German reunification and disbanding of the Soviet Warsaw Pact military alliance, NATO will rule out an “expansion of its territory to the East, i.e., moving it closer to the Soviet borders.”
February 9, 1990. U.S. Secretary of State James Baker III agrees with Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that “NATO expansion is unacceptable.”
June 29 – July 2, 1990. NATO Secretary-General Manfred Woerner tells a high-level Russian delegation that “the NATO Council and he [Woerner] are against the expansion of NATO.”
July 1, 1990. Ukrainian Rada (parliament) adopts the Declaration of State Sovereignty, in which “The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.”
August 24, 1991. Ukraine declares independence on the basis of the 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty, which includes the pledge of neutrality.
Mid-1992. Bush Administration policymakers reach a secret internal consensus to expand NATO, contrary to commitments recently made to the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation.
July 8, 1997. At the Madrid NATO Summit, Poland, Hungary, and Czech Republic are invited to begin NATO accession talks.
September-October, 1997. In Foreign Affairs (Sept/Oct, 1997) former U.S. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski details the timeline for NATO enlargement, with Ukraine’s negotiations provisionally to begin during 2005-2010.
March 24 – June 10, 1999. NATO bombs Serbia. Russia terms the NATO bombing “a flagrant violation of the United Nations Charter."
March 2000. Ukrainian President Kuchma declares that "there is no question of Ukraine joining NATO today since this issue is extremely complex and has many angles to it.”
June 13, 2002. The US unilaterally withdraws from the Anti-Ballistic Weapons Treaty, an action which the Vice-Chair of the Russian Duma Defense Committee characterizes as an “extremely negative event of historical scale.”
November-December 2004. The “Orange Revolution” occurs in Ukraine, events that the West characterizes as a democratic revolution and the Russian government characterizes as a Western-manufactured grab for power with overt and covert US support.
February 10, 2007. Putin strongly criticizes the U.S. attempt to create a unipolar world, backed by NATO enlargement, in a speech to the Munich Security Conference, declaring: “I think it is obvious that NATO expansion … represents a serious provocation that reduces the level of mutual trust. And we have the right to ask: against whom is this expansion intended? And what happened to the assurances our western partners made after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact?”
February 1, 2008. US Ambassador to Russia William Burns sends a confidential cableto U.S. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, entitled “Nyet means Nyet: Russia’s NATO Enlargement Redlines,” emphasizing that “Ukraine and Georgia's NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about the consequences for stability in the region.”
February 18, 2008. The US recognizes Kosovo independence over heated Russian objections. The Russian Government declares that Kosovo independence violates “the sovereignty of the Republic of Serbia, the Charter of the United Nations, UNSCR 1244, the principles of the Helsinki Final Act, Kosovo’s Constitutional Framework and the high-level Contact Group accords."
April 3, 2008. NATO declares that Ukraine and Georgia “will become members of NATO.” Russia declares that “Georgia’s and Ukraine’s membership in the alliance is a huge strategic mistake which would have most serious consequences for pan-European security.”
August 20, 2008. The US announces that it will deploy ballistic missile defense (BMD) systems in Poland, to be followed later by Romania. Russia expresses strenuous opposition to the BMD systems.
January 28, 2014. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt plot regime change in Ukraine in a call that is intercepted and posted on YouTube on February 7, in which Nuland notes that “[Vice President] Biden’s willing” to help close the deal.
February 21, 2014. Governments of Ukraine, Poland, France, and Germany reach an Agreement on settlement of political crisis in Ukraine, calling for new elections later in the year. The far-right Right Sector and other armed groups instead demand Yanukovych’s immediate resignation, and take over government buildings. Yanukovych flees. The Parliament immediately strips the President of his powers without an impeachment process.
February 22, 2014. The US immediately endorses the regime change.
March 16, 2014. Russia holds a referendum in Crimea that according to the Russian Government results in a large majority vote for Russian rule. On March 21, the Russian Duma votes to admit Crimea to the Russian Federation. The Russian Government draws the analogy to the Kosovo referendum. The US rejects the Crimea referendum as illegitimate.
March 18, 2014. President Putin characterizes the regime change as a coup, stating: “those who stood behind the latest events in Ukraine had a different agenda: they were preparing yet another government takeover; they wanted to seize power and would stop short of nothing. They resorted to terror, murder and riots.”
March 25, 2014. President Barack Obama mocks Russia “as a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors — not out of strength but out of weakness,”
February 12, 2015. Signing of Minsk II agreement. The agreement is unanimously backed by the UN Security Council Resolution 2202 on February 17, 2015. Former Chancellor Angela Merkel later acknowledges that the Minsk II agreement was designed to give time for Ukraine to strengthen its military. It was not implemented by Ukraine, and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy acknowledged that he had no intention to implement the agreement.
February 1, 2019. The U.S. unilaterally withdraws from the Intermediate Nuclear Force (INF) Treaty. Russia harshly criticizes the INF withdrawal as a “destructive” act that stoked security risks.
June 14, 2021. At the 2021 NATO Summit in Brussels, NATO reconfirms NATO’s intention to enlarge and include Ukraine: “We reiterate the decision made at the 2008 Bucharest Summit that Ukraine will become a member of the Alliance.”
September 1, 2021. The US reiterates support for Ukraine’s NATO aspirations in the “Joint Statement on the U.S.-Ukraine Strategic Partnership.”
December 17, 2021. Putin puts forward a draft “Treaty between the United States of America and the Russian Federation on Security Guarantees,” based on non-enlargement of NATO and limitations on the deployment of intermediate-range and shorter-range missiles.
January 26, 2022. The U.S. formally replies to Russia that the US and NATO will not negotiate with Russia over issues of NATO enlargement, slamming the door on a negotiated path to avoid an expansion of the war in Ukraine. The U.S. invokes NATO policy that “Any decision to invite a country to join the Alliance is taken by the North Atlantic Council on the basis of consensus among all Allies. No third country has a say in such deliberations.” In short, the US asserts that NATO enlargement to Ukraine is none of Russia’s business.
February 21, 2022. At a meeting of the Russian Security Council, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov details the U.S. refusal to negotiate: “We received their response in late January. The assessment of this response shows that our Western colleagues are not prepared to take up our major proposals, primarily those on NATO’s eastward non-expansion. This demand was rejected with reference to the bloc’s so-called open-door policy and the freedom of each state to choose its own way of ensuring security. Neither the United States, nor the North Atlantic Alliance proposed an alternative to this key provision.” The United States is doing everything it can to avoid the principle of indivisibility of security that we consider of fundamental importance and to which we have made many references. Deriving from it the only element that suits them – the freedom to choose alliances – they completely ignore everything else, including the key condition that reads that nobody – either in choosing alliances or regardless of them – is allowed to enhance their security at the expense of the security of others.”
February 24, 2022. In an address to the nation, President Putin declares: “It is a fact that over the past 30 years we have been patiently trying to come to an agreement with the leading NATO countries regarding the principles of equal and indivisible security in Europe. In response to our proposals, we invariably faced either cynical deception and lies or attempts at pressure and blackmail, while the North Atlantic alliance continued to expand despite our protests and concerns. Its military machine is moving and, as I said, is approaching our very border.”
March 16, 2022. Russia and Ukraine announce significant progress towards a peace agreement mediated by Turkey and Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett. As reported in the press, the basis of the agreement includes: “a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal if Kyiv declares neutrality and accepts limits on its armed forces.”
March 28, 2022. President Zelenskyy publicly declares that Ukraine is ready for neutrality combined with security guarantees as part of a peace agreement with Russia. “Security guarantees and neutrality, the non-nuclear status of our state — we’re ready to do that. That’s the most important point ... they started the war because of it.”
April 7, 2022. Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov accuses the West of trying to derail the peace talks, claiming that Ukraine had gone back on previously agreed proposals. Prime Minister Naftali Bennett later states (on February 5, 2023) that the U.S. had blocked the pending Russia-Ukraine peace agreement. When asked if the Western powers blocked the agreement, Bennett answered: “Basically, yes. They blocked it, and I thought they were wrong.” At some point, says Bennett, the West decided “to crush Putin rather than to negotiate.”
June 4, 2023. Ukraine launches a major counter-offensive, without achieving any major success as of mid-July 2023.
July 7, 2023. Biden acknowledges that Ukraine is “running out” of 155mm artillery shells, and that the US is “running low.”
July 11, 2023. At the NATO Summit in Vilnius, the final communique reaffirms Ukraine’s future in NATO: “We fully support Ukraine’s right to choose its own security arrangements. Ukraine’s future is in NATO … Ukraine has become increasingly interoperable and politically integrated with the Alliance, and has made substantial progress on its reform path.”
July 13, 2023. US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin reiterates that Ukraine will “no doubt” join NATO when the war ends.
July 13, 2023. Putin reiterates that “As for Ukraine’s NATO membership, as we have said many times, this obviously creates a threat to Russia’s security. In fact, the threat of Ukraine’s accession to NATO is the reason, or rather one of the reasons for the special military operation. I am certain that this would not enhance Ukraine’s security in any way either. In general, it will make the world much more vulnerable and lead to more tensions in the international arena. So, I don’t see anything good in this. Our position is well known and has long been formulated.”
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while nato expansion is a big factor, the real reason for the war is that US oil companies had already spent billions betting that they would be able to exploit the oil and gas in the region, and they could not do that with a russian friendly regime...which is why they overthrew the government and installed their own western friendly government.
It’s really just one of the many facets in this conflict…
But it does sound like another Venezuela when one focuses on that aspect.
There’s always a Halliburton lurking somewhere waiting to cash in.
Americans are the most propagandized populace on earth.
The fact that you are automatically a "Putin lover" when you disagree with our neocon led foreign policy is perfect example of this.
The fact that you are automatically a "Putin lover" when you disagree with our neocon led foreign policy is perfect example of this.
Putin's an authoritarian dictator of a oligarchy, and it's possible for me to simultaneously hold that opinion without supporting the current narrative about our involvement in the region.
He's a modern day fascist. It's funny that he described Ukrainian leadership by that name while his own regime has all the characteristics of a fascist regime.
How fast would we have tanks in Mexico City if Mexico entered into an agreement with Iran or North Korea? An agreement which allowed them to build bases just south of the Rio Grande... with medium range ballistic missiles at those bases.
Mike
Mike
we don't even need real threats to invade. we make them up...
if anyone doesn't believe the bullshit, we blackmail them...
but heck, the mic pulled in trillions, and we only had to kill how many?
Ten years on what happened to the woman who revealed dirty tricks on Iraq war vote?
In the runup to the critical vote on war in Iraq, Katharine Gun exposed a US plot to spy on the UN.
www.theguardian.com
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Kiev to Moscow is just a shade under 600 miles.
If Putin is an unhinged psychopath why would the West risk him pushing the button by making moves to install NATO bases within 600 miles of his front door.
Because we would absolutely flip the fuck out and roll into Mexico if someone did that to us.
Let those fucks in Europe sort their own shit out. When they're busy fighting each other they don't have time to try and export their stupid globalist bullshit over here.
If they had been forced to pay for their own defense the last 80 years I wouldn't have to listen to them shit on us for not having "free" healthcare.
Mike
Money. Power. Influence. Duh.
Putin is just a cat away from supervillain/Bond Villain Status himself. There are no onnocents here (except the foot soldiers killing each other).
But the usual suspects are to blame: money/power/influence. We want MORE!
Why I know some of you like to bag on the framers as some sort of super-sect of hypervillans remember:
George Walked away from it all and retired. When was the last time ANY OTHER POLITICIAN did that. But but but but but....
Even St. Carter spent his final years trying to rebuild his image. George told everyone to fuck off and went back to farming.
Be like George.
Don't disagree at all. Which was my point. Fuck 'em all. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
But it is my tax dollars.
And it's a lot of wasted nitrocellulose that could be coming home with me instead of blowing kids on both sides to bits.
I'm way more worried about the supervillain oligarchy here than anywhere else.
Mike
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