Suppressors Allen Engineering

Rogue111 · Feb 12, 2014

I'm looking pretty hard at the Allen Engineering AE30 for multiple rifles. They look to be pretty new & I have read a few good reviews of Mr. Allen's suppressors but was wondering if anyone here had some first hand experiences with his products?

I've never used a reflex design suppressor, but I read some opinion on the interwebs that they are better at staying concentric if they come loose during shooting due the the two points of contact? Could be nonsense...

Thanks

rjrivero · Feb 12, 2014

Ron Allen has been manufacturing suppressors since 1983. He was the sole subcontractor for Ops Inc. So all of those Ops Inc Cans on the Mark 12's all came from Ron Allen's shop.

Ops Inc has had some issues and has not been shipping product for quite some time.

Ron Allen has started making and shipping suppressors under his own label. Rest assured he makes a top notch product and his customer service is reputed to be among the best in the business. www.aesuppressors.com

The thing I like about the way his AE30 mounts is that it's direct threaded, and unlike the Ops Inc 3rd model, it mounts on the industry standard 5/8 x 24 threads. (The 3rd mounted on an odd 11/16x24 thread pattern).

The concentric nature of the reflex design is a draw for the precision rifle guys because of the minimal impact on the POI Shift.

The AE30 can be fit to the AR platform as well. Just put on a thread adapter, and the collar for the AEM5 or Mark 12 style collar and you can screw it right on.

95LTZ · Feb 12, 2014

Of the several suppressors that I own & use I like the Allen best of all. It is my most recent "can" but in a short time it has become my favorite. I use this 30 cal. "can" on a .284 Win. & am extremely happy with the results. For lack of a better term it shoots "gentle" on the .284.
In my opinion I would buy in confidence.
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Rinky · Feb 13, 2014

You will fail at finding a single negative thing about Ron. I've spoke to him on the phone a couple times, he stands behind his product 100%, is straight forward and makes awesome suppressors.

Buy with confidence. If I could I would reprofile my m24 barrel for an AE30 but I need to look into it more first.

kennypowers · Feb 13, 2014

As aforementioned Allen Engineering built all the Ops Inc suppressors for the MK12s. So they are definitely field tested to say the least. I just bought an AEM5 for my MK12 build. Buy with confidence

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Rogue111 · Feb 13, 2014

Thanks guys, I appreciate your input!

CaptNemo · Feb 16, 2014

kennypowers said:
As aforementioned Allen Engineering built all the Ops Inc suppressors for the MK12s. So they are definitely field tested to say the least. I just bought an AEM5 for my MK12 build. Buy with confidence

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I have one on order with Jerry Bell. We're waiting for the serial # to do my form 4 so that I can put it on my MK 12 Mod 0.

02Overlander · Feb 19, 2014

I run the .30 12th on my SR-25 & MK12 & should have the .22 12th & 15th next month & an AEM2 a few months after that. Will do some comparison vids once they're all home.
Ron set-up my SR for the 12th & I have had the pleasure of speaking with him on several occasions, always a great conversation. His outstanding reputation is well deserved. Buy with confidence, you won't be disappointed.

Suppressed KAC SR-25 LWM - Ops Inc 12th - YouTube

Suppressed S&W M&P 15/22 - Ops Inc 15th - YouTube

VJJPunisher · Feb 19, 2014

may as well share a vid a buddy and I did a while ago comparing cans, these have ops inc names stamped on the side but rest assured they are ron allen's cans

Ops Inc suppressor comparison - YouTube

VJJPunisher · Feb 19, 2014

hell why not, this isnt me but the rifle and can in this vid are mine

Ops Inc. 12th Model Suppressor - YouTube

m1garand30064 · Feb 20, 2014

Love my AE30. Buy with confidence.

Voodoochild · Feb 21, 2014

Real quick question are the mounting collar and sleeve the same as the OPS inc ones? I already have a Mk12 Mod1 and want to get the AEM 5 but dont want to have to get new collar and mount.

02Overlander · Feb 21, 2014

No new mounting hardware needed, you're GTG with the AEM5.

rjrivero · Feb 22, 2014

Voodoochild said:
Real quick question are the mounting collar and sleeve the same as the OPS inc ones? I already have a Mk12 Mod1 and want to get the AEM 5 but dont want to have to get new collar and mount.

02Overlander said:
No new mounting hardware needed, you're GTG with the AEM5.

As per their website:

AE Suppressors said:
The AEM5 is the direct fit replacement for your MK12 SPR. The AEM5 attaches to the weapon via a mount(not included) and a collar that goes over the barrel for alignment. The suppressor mounts via threads on the outside of the mount centering on the adapter fitting. A 20 degree taper on the adapter locks the silencer onto the barrel.

Allen Engineering AEM5 Suppressor

bulldogbb415 · Dec 21, 2019

I recently installed the AEM5 and notice that the can will only screw on the muzzle thread about 2.5 turns and doesn’t fully fit snug on the mounting collar. Is this ok and is there a way to test to make sure the fit is correct? Thanks for the input!!

cherokeefan03 · Dec 21, 2019

bulldogbb415 said:
I recently installed the AEM5 and notice that the can will only screw on the muzzle thread about 2.5 turns and doesn’t fully fit snug on the mounting collar. Is this ok and is there a way to test to make sure the fit is correct? Thanks for the input!!

Check the Ops inc thread on ARFCOM silencer board, ron posts there. It is most likely an issue with the barrel contour being slightly different. Ron should be able to make you a custom collar to get the 7ish turns you need.

Also check that the collar is fully seated, and that the MD was installed correctly.

bulldogbb415 · Dec 22, 2019

cherokeefan03 said:
Check the Ops inc thread on ARFCOM silencer board, ron posts there. It is most likely an issue with the barrel contour being slightly different. Ron should be able to make you a custom collar to get the 7ish turns you need.

Also check that the collar is fully seated, and that the MD was installed correctly.

Thanks Cherokee, much appreciated!

RonA · Dec 22, 2019

Give me a call at the shop and we'll sort it out.
RonA

FatBoy · Dec 22, 2019

Mine only went on 2-2.5 turns orginally on a WOA barrel. Shot fine but after speaking with Ron we pulled my barrels and moved the shoulder back some. I get 8-9 turns on three different rifles. Absolutely love my AEM5 and will likely go AEM5-30 for my large frame.

j-dubya · Dec 23, 2019

Yep. 8.5 turn is Ron’s preferred sweet spot.

longshot2000 · Oct 21, 2021

The right can for Mk12 rifle is the Ops Inc #12, made by Allen Engineering. Also, new can in the same design from Otter Creek

HansohnBrothers · Oct 21, 2021

longshot2000 said:
The right can for Mk12 rifle is the Ops Inc #12, made by Allen Engineering. Also, new can in the same design from Otter Creek

Holy thread resurrection!

As for the the Otter Creek can, it has the same external dimensions and mount as the AEM5/OpsInc12. However, the baffle design and materials used in the Otter Creek OCM5 are completely different, resulting in a much lighter package (16 oz. vs. 21 oz.) with potentially better sound performance and lower back pressure.

cherokeefan03 · Oct 21, 2021

longshot2000 said:
The right can for Mk12 rifle is the Ops Inc #12, made by Allen Engineering. Also, new can in the same design from Otter Creek

Did you just bump a 2 year old post to hawk Otter Creek cans and dump bad info? Actually I know the answer to the second part, everywhere you go a trail of stupid incorrect clone shit follows.

whoosh · Jan 10, 2022

HansohnBrothers said:
Holy thread resurrection!

As for the the Otter Creek can, it has the same external dimensions and mount as the AEM5/OpsInc12. However, the baffle design and materials used in the Otter Creek OCM5 are completely different, resulting in a much lighter package (16 oz. vs. 21 oz.) with potentially better sound performance and lower back pressure.

Good gouge. Price friendly repro with hopefully less back pressure. Used to get a face full of soot back when I used to carry heavy things around. Anyone have db results?

longshot2000 · Oct 23, 2023

cherokeefan03 said:
Did you just bump a 2 year old post to hawk Otter Creek cans and dump bad info? Actually I know the answer to the second part, everywhere you go a trail of stupid incorrect clone shit follows.

Yeah, looking back with perfect hindsight, two years later, there is nothing like the Allen Engineering suppressors.

fiveoshooter · Dec 23, 2023

I’ve been running OPS Inc./AE cans hard on M4’s and REM 700 .308‘s for 16 years now. EXCELLENT suppressors with zero problems. You’d be hard pressed to find a better can.

longshot2000 · Sep 13, 2024

bulldogbb415 said:
I recently installed the AEM5 and notice that the can will only screw on the muzzle thread about 2.5 turns and doesn’t fully fit snug on the mounting collar. Is this ok and is there a way to test to make sure the fit is correct? Thanks for the input!!

Chances are your barrel is not correctly profile for SPR. We have tested a number of barrels, and most that are commercially available do not pass the test to mount an AEM5 suppressor. This is due to the barrel manufacturers using an incorrect profile diagram, and their mistake dates back to 2000. I am not sure why they have not corrected this. You should get ~ 7 to 9 turns of the suppressor, when you have the collar in the correct position on the barrel.

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