Willing seller, willing buyer.
Farmer was an over aggressive fag that lost out by being a jew.
Oil Rig kids bought trucks like hotcakes every year or 2.
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Willing seller, willing buyer.
Farmer was an over aggressive fag that lost out by being a jew.
Oil Rig kids bought trucks like hotcakes every year or 2.
Toyota Tundra, 4Runner, or GX470.
Most reliable vehicles that pretty much exist. Wicked resale value.
Corporate loyalty to customers is a myth and is subject to the whims of each Fiefdom(franchisee)./Salesman/Sales manager.
GM does not give two shits about anybody. I was at a store where they enraged their clientele to the point of the largest Corvette vandalism in Canadian history.
The new store owner would call people 4-10 times per month OR MORE!!!
Guy shows up and strips the paint off of like 30 C7 corvettes with Dot 3 break fluid and a ketchup bottle.
Bunch of greedy psychos. Covid destroyed the car sales industry. Now dealers pay like nothing to salespeople. They keep it all.
There are car companies that care about their customers - not because they are compassionate and caring, but because this leads to repeat sales with lower costs to recapture the customer and that's good for profits.
I don't currently own any Honda or Toyota products, but both companies have a reputation both at the consumer level and within the industry for going to greater lengths than some other brands to keep existing customers happy.
I do not doubt that there are still good "dealers"....I have seen some goddamn nightmares.
Well I don't know about Corporate but I can tell you how things went at dealerships around here that I or others I know went to over the past few years.
Ford dealerships - Solid spot t the top of the the worst ever list.
Hyundai and Kia - tying for second place on the worst ever list
Toyota - trying hard to move up to second place in the worst ever list
Honda - trying hard to be a firm 3rd place on the worst list ever.
Volvo - Trying very hard to stay at the top of the best ever dealership experience list.
Corporate is not what folks see, they normally see the dealerships and that's what makes or breaks the brand.
The sooner the stupid states get rid of their stupid "must go through a stealership" rules about car sales and let there be direct from factory sales (like Tesla likes to do), the better it will be for vehicle buyers.
I do not doubt that there are still good "dealers"....I have seen some goddamn nightmares
The psychological damage may be reduced from taking away salespeople. 70% of them are trash.
"you will own nothing and be happy".
Do you even really "own" a Tesla? The software updates can stop you dead. I think they are trying to get rid of "ownership".
Japan hasn't had sales people if ever and it seems to work.
I forsee leasing (renting more or less) in the future. With big trucks going to 120-150k....not many will be able to afford them since wages have been fucked since the 2010s.
Dealers are a whole different matter, and I have seen many cases where good brands are trashed by the behavior of the dealers (conversely, shit brand sometimes offer great service - VW, anyone?).
I bought a RAM PowerWagon for my dad about 3 or 4 months ago, got a decent deal on it. it's loaded out and I think I have 60 in it.
Our Yukon XL was on it's 3rd set of shocks on the front when we traded it in. I just put a new set on this spring. Ours was a 2019 also. A pair of the electronically controlled shocks is $2200! That's not a typo!
It needed the rears to be replaced also... yep another $2k.
The factory has a service bulletin on it... but won't recall them or do anything to fix/improve them. If one goes bad and you bitch enough... they will replace one but won't replace the set!
Also put a radiator in it this past spring. Another $1350!
Brake control module or dash switch bad. They don't know which one was causing the dash light to come on. The switch is like $400 and the module over a $1k.
Coolant line leaked for the A/C. Needed that fixed one time... and it was in the shop for like three of four days.
And those are just some of the issues we had with it.
I was done with it... traded it in.
Great. Now barrel blanks are going up
Nah.... went back to Toyota... prices on the barrels will hold for a while!Great. Now barrel blanks are going up
If I need to buy another one for the wife... then I'll bump the prices!
Which Toyota did you get?Nah.... went back to Toyota... prices on the barrels will hold for a while!
If I need to buy another one for the wife... then I'll bump the prices!
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2024 Tundra.
I still keep my 77 F150 etc... pic posted of that as well.
I’ve been looking in the used market pretty hard for the last couple of months.
Just can’t bring myself to drop 65k plus on something new.
But dang, anything decent used is 40-50k or more with NO Warranty. That is disheartening at best.
Just can’t bring myself to drop 65k plus on something new.
But dang, anything decent used is 40-50k or more with NO Warranty. That is disheartening at best.
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