Thank you. But times change so it's on my CZ now.That’s a beauty
The TRG got new clothes:
Just had to try.
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Thank you. But times change so it's on my CZ now.That’s a beauty
Question for you…who’s front NV rail are you using in this photo? Factory backbone or did you swap for KRG? Thanks.View attachment 8510846
Love these old rifles, think they were a little
Under appreciated. I want the folder I just wait til the moment when I can handle swallowing almost 1000 bucks for the krg
That’s a old photo but it was a krg bridge on a factory backboneQuestion for you…who’s front NV rail are you using in this photo? Factory backbone or did you swap for KRG? Thanks.
It looks great.That’s a old photo but it was a krg bridge on a factory backbone
Thank you ! I’m slowly going back to that general setup. Probly going to buy another m7xi. They just look right on a trgIt looks great.
That is a badass rig! You like the s5 ? I had the 3-18 and it didn’t agree with my eyesMy contribution…TRG-22 in 6.5cm and KRG chassis. The rifle my daughter uses.
Recently added an ASE SL7i. Didnt shoot it yet, looking forward to it though.
The more i shoot my TRGs, the more i drift away from my AIs. If i had to make a choice right now i'd go with the TRGs. The ergonomics fit me far better than the thumbhole stock of the AI. Honestly expected it to be vice versa in the beginning.
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Yeah there’s no way a bolt that size is taking that torque, I don’t care what grade of steel it is haha. I’ve always just snugged by hand with a screw driver . Never had mine come loose.Just to add to the spice here....Beretta contradicting itself....
Action screws on my A1 were finger tight or less so I tried doing the ridiculous 133inlb and the screw stretched and cracked at 80. Tried to get replacement screws and that's the response I got. Picked up 3 from tractor supply and torqued to 65 and will test the accuracy this weekend with they're own trg 175gr ammo.
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Yeah there’s no way a bolt that size is taking that torque, I don’t care what grade of steel it is haha.
Yeah that’s recommend max torque before failure in that thread lol. There is no need to go over 60-70 inch lbs I don’t give a shit what they say. I don’t belive they even had a spec in the old models manual. They was an older thread about it in here someplace.View attachment 8516216Standard application torque for m6 x 10.9 class (high quality) screw is = 15nm or 11ft lb. In-lb equivalent is 11ft lb x 12in/ft = 133in-lb. Here's the manual, which repeats this verbatim:
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No way m6 "quality hardware" snaps in half under these loads.
Note that alternative and/or low-quality installation hardware has potentially much lower load ratings. If something has snapped its likely not original/10.9 spec parts. ETA - this includes substitution of stainless steel scews, which even when good quality, are typically a downgrade in tensile strength vs the 10.9 spec.
Other potential issues to rule out would be out of spec torque-wrench, or incorrect thread condition, etc.
There was and I referred to that thread and they were also told 133inlb but most torqued to 45-65. I don't believe hand tight is enough but 133 sounded insane. I attempted 133 only because the book called it out and Beretta told another member the same spec. Trying to eliminate all things Beretta can throw at me before I try and send it in for accuracy issues. I'm putting money on the screws tightness though. We'll see Saturday.Yeah that’s recommend max torque before failure in that thread lol. There is no need to go over 60-70 inch lbs I don’t give a shit what they say. I don’t belive they even had a spec in the old models manual. They was an older thread about it in here someplace.
Yeah I get that, and it’s just my opinion but I think it sounds crazy for a m6 bolt even with the supposed grade the fasteners are. Who knows maybe I’m the moronThere was and I referred to that thread and they were also told 133inlb but most torqued to 45-65. I don't believe hand tight is enough but 133 sounded insane. I attempted 133 only because the book called it out and Beretta told another member the same spec. Trying to eliminate all things Beretta can throw at me before I try and send it in for accuracy issues.
Oh no don't get it wrong I completely agree with you lol. Spread across 3 action screws even 65 is more than enough.Yeah I get that, and it’s just my opinion but I think it sounds crazy for a m6 bolt even with the supposed grade the fasteners are. Who knows maybe I’m the moron
There is virtually zero chance a 10.9 m6 is going to snap-in-half at 15nm.I don't believe hand tight is enough but 133 sounded insane.
I'll post the pic I plan to email Beretta.There is virtually zero chance a 10.9 m6 is going to snap-in-half at 15nm.
A out of spec or mis-dialed clicker-type torque wrench would do it pretty easily tho.
Is there a "head stamp"(?) any kind of markings on the screw head?You can see the crack a little better in the second pic and you can definitely see the stretch compared to a normal one.
As for the torque wrench I'm not going to pretend it's high dollar BUT I do take it into work and test it side by side with a snap on digital on a low end and high end of the rating a few times a year. It's never been close to 1ftlb off and maxing out at 80inlb, even if it was 1ftlb off is still under the 133inlb.
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None. Replaced it with a 12.9 grade (on left). On the right is the sako bolt.Is there a "head stamp"(?) any kind of markings on the screw head?
Also. Standard torque for a 8.8 M6 screw is 10 Nm, ~7.4 foot pounds.
Then, I would say, it's a regular 8.8.None. Replaced it with a 12.9 grade (on left). On the right is the sako bolt.
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Well:
Rapid fire with a 300 WM gets the barrel hot...Watched that video, had a hard time keeping the boner down… so hot
The Sako .300WM load is interesting - 175gr Scenar-L at almost 3,200fps!Rapid fire with a 300 WM gets the barrel hot...
The Finns must used capped scopes, and don't want to used hold overs.The Sako .300WM load is interesting - 175gr Scenar-L at almost 3,200fps!
Speed kills!The Finns must used capped scopes, and don't want to used hold overs.
There are. Not sure which is standard nowadays, but I was under the assumption that the current M10's ship with a M-Lok fore-end.Are there different M10 forends? Saw someone mentioning you could get them with the same forend as the A1 series.
Just asking because i would like to use the sako bipod and noticed an adapter on the TRG 62 A1 Video. It looked better than the one from finnaccuracy. Seems like its from Sako maybe.
Exactly the info i was looking for. Thank you very much!There are. Not sure which is standard nowadays, but I was under the assumption that the current M10's ship with a M-Lok fore-end.
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The adapter on the video is indeed made by Sako and attaches to M-Lok vs. picatinny with the FA one. Don't know the part number but should be this one.
Hello, what is a pre-13 TRG?I have a pre-13 factory 20", my post above is it being shot in my house. They are out there, mine isn't but I am sure one is.
I was looking at the difference between the 21 and 22 just yesterday.Pre-13 TRG22’s have a different trigger. They could be adjusted to a point where the seat was damaged. The post 13 TRG cannot be adjusted a light to prevent this damage. I’m not aware of any other changes.
There are slight differences in earlier model bolt handles. Really early 22’s had a thinner bolt handle as well.
I’m not sure what the difference is better a 22 and 21.