Hornady 106gr A-tip factory seconds

PV can keep them at that price!

Demand was too high last time and they sold too fast, better bump that price up! You guys shouldn't have let the cat out of the bag! 😂

Powder Valley was feeling bold when they priced those.

Ya sign me up for hornady 2nds priced 20% higher than Berger’s 🤣

They crazy. Likely will sell very few here at this price. Which is what the greedy fucks deserve.

I see they have shown back up at powder valley. They sure aren’t priced like seconds though. Might as well just call them a-tips and publish specs at this price.


Powder Valley dropped the price down to $23.16



But they are now all sold out.
 
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Did anyone get them at that price, or was that change after they were all sold out?

Real question, because I saw a private seller listing offering 110s or 106s seconds (I forget which) at like 46 cents per, at which point I probably wouldn't pay that to shoot seconds. I find it interesting to watch where the market price will stabilize on these, and if they will ever be released as an actual (non-second) SKU.
 
Did anyone get them at that price, or was that change after they were all sold out?

Real question, because I saw a private seller listing offering 110s or 106s seconds (I forget which) at like 46 cents per, at which point I probably wouldn't pay that to shoot seconds. I find it interesting to watch where the market price will stabilize on these, and if they will ever be released as an actual (non-second) SKU.
No idea.

I saw the high price, and then I saw them sold out with a marked down super low price.
 
I got some for the 24 a box price. I wish I would have bought 10k. They hammer in my dasher. 30gr of varget average 2802. First, second and third round impacts at 1350. Hammers a 3 inch plate at 440. They are great for the price. Ordered another 1k when they went up to 35 a 100.
I won't buy them when they go up in price.
 
Did you ever load any of that 2500 yet?

I've shot 800 of them at his point and I still can not figure out why they're called "seconds" or how they are any different from any other A-Tips I've shot (besides them coming in a boring brown box).

So far they've been very consistent and impressive at the speeds I've tried them (~2800-2900fps).
 
I've shot 800 of them at his point and I still can not figure out why they're called "seconds" or how they are any different from any other A-Tips I've shot (besides them coming in a boring brown box).

So far they've been very consistent and impressive at the speeds I've tried them (~2800-2900fps).

My exact same findings
 
I know some units shoot the mk262 77gr smk and others that shoot a 70gr tsx and a 62gr all copper frange for CQB work.
Evidently, these bullets are not considered to be "easily expandable" as the Hague reads.
It depends.
The Hague convention covers warfare with recognized nation states.
Terrorists are not protected under Hague.
 
I tried to get the G7 BC for these so I can plug them into my kestrel because the 106 TAP BC is not the same. Anybody have the BC? for some reason I cannot pull the 106 DOD 6mm bullet data out of the hornady 4DOF app to see what the actual BC is.
 
I tried to get the G7 BC for these so I can plug them into my kestrel because the 106 TAP BC is not the same. Anybody have the BC? for some reason I cannot pull the 106 DOD 6mm bullet data out of the hornady 4DOF app to see what the actual BC is.
You can't pull the BC out because it's not using a BC, it's a full drag curve.
 
I never considered that the 4DOF app would not work without cell service.
others may not have this experience but I have updated the app and redownloaded it and it will not load the bullet profiles. The applied ballistics app does the same thing, luckily kestrels do not which is why I always bring it with me. Most places I shoot at are in the middle of nowhere far outside a populated area and sometimes google fi does not work well with certain company cell towers.
 
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I tried to get the G7 BC for these so I can plug them into my kestrel because the 106 TAP BC is not the same. Anybody have the BC? for some reason I cannot pull the 106 DOD 6mm bullet data out of the hornady 4DOF app to see what the actual BC is.
Try 285g7, it'll get you on plate with a good zero and decent es. Then tweak it at distance.
 
Yeah somewhere in the ballpark of .290.

I never considered that the 4DOF app would not work without cell service.

It works fine without cell service. For some reason, however, if you have weak service it loads slowly. Trying to connect to sync the app with updates likely. However, if you throw it into airplane mode it will start up immediately. A connection is not required for it to work.
 
Thanks for this info.

I have run into the app loading forever then crashing repeatedly with intermittent cell service.

Turn airplane mode on and it works fine.

Yeah somewhere in the ballpark of .290.



It works fine without cell service. For some reason, however, if you have weak service it loads slowly. Trying to connect to sync the app with updates likely. However, if you throw it into airplane mode it will start up immediately. A connection is not required for it to work.
 
Yeah somewhere in the ballpark of .290.



It works fine without cell service. For some reason, however, if you have weak service it loads slowly. Trying to connect to sync the app with updates likely. However, if you throw it into airplane mode it will start up immediately. A connection is not required for it to work.
Zero’d my rifle with 20 rounds and got velocity, plugged it into my kestrel and went straight to the 1000 yard line and got a first round impact On a 2/3 IPSC. Outstanding!
 
FWIW/BOLO, I've now shot 1000 of the factory second 106gn .243 A-Tips with awesome results and with no signs of why they're "seconds", until today when I was loading 300 more (rounds 1001-1300), when I found one (1) with a f'ed up nose/tip in the first 100ct box, and then two (2) 135gn .264 bullets in the other boxes (1 in each 100ct box).

Not a big deal, but maybe it is something to be on the lookout for. Both 135gn .264 ones wouldn't make it into my seating die, so they were easy to discover, and I found the 1 with the messed up nose/tip when just looking over the whole batch and case gauging a few here and there as a final quality control step I do where I look for anything wonky (and admire my work lol) when I'm done with a batch.
 
FWIW/BOLO, I've now shot 1000 of the factory second 106gn .243 A-Tips with awesome results and with no signs of why they're "seconds", until today when I was loading 300 more (rounds 1001-1300), when I found one (1) with a f'ed up nose/tip in the first 100ct box, and then two (2) 135gn .264 bullets in the other boxes (1 in each 100ct box).

Not a big deal, but maybe it is something to be on the lookout for. Both 135gn .264 ones wouldn't make it into my seating die, so they were easy to discover, and I found the 1 with the messed up nose/tip when just looking over the whole batch and case gauging a few here and there as a final quality control step I do where I look for anything wonky (and admire my work lol) when I'm done with a batch.
Yea I wish I would have bought more my 6ARC gas gun loves them. I’d like to try them in a 6 creed or a 6 dasher
 
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FWIW/BOLO, I've now shot 1000 of the factory second 106gn .243 A-Tips with awesome results and with no signs of why they're "seconds", until today when I was loading 300 more (rounds 1001-1300), when I found one (1) with a f'ed up nose/tip in the first 100ct box, and then two (2) 135gn .264 bullets in the other boxes (1 in each 100ct box).

Not a big deal, but maybe it is something to be on the lookout for. Both 135gn .264 ones wouldn't make it into my seating die, so they were easy to discover, and I found the 1 with the messed up nose/tip when just looking over the whole batch and case gauging a few here and there as a final quality control step I do where I look for anything wonky (and admire my work lol) when I'm done with a batch.
I wonder how the one with the messed up nose would have shot.
 
I wonder how the one with the messed up nose would have shot.

I hand weighed every single one of my 5000 and sorted them by weight on my FX120i and I found zero issues or weight differences outside of super tight spreads. I found 5 out of 5000 that had a slight discoloration. Thats it.
 
I wonder how the one with the messed up nose would have shot.

I tried it on the big plate of a KYL rack at 600 yards and the splash was ~2 whole mils high and ~3-4 whole mils left.. so not great lol.

That said, while practicing build/breaks off different high/low props with a bag, I put 10+ of the normal/good ones into a group the size of a fist at 750 without trying too hard... so if they turn up again, I'll be buying more!


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