Car gets stuck full throttle and goes several miles through some small towns. The driver is a young guy that stays calm and works with police to get it stopped, nice work!
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Runaway car, this was an awesome save
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Seems odd the the brakes could not stop the car, even at full throttle.
When the gear selector is essentially nothing more than a button to tell the computer in the car what you'd like to do, if the computer screws up well it don't matter at all what gear you tell the car to be in or not be in.
Most newer stuff is going full computer driven because of costs and laziness.
There isn't any mechanical linkage from the driver controls to anything other than a little sensor switch.
Now the more "conspiracy theory" types might also say some of this is "controllable" from a distance and one could take out folks that are inconvenient in very convenient "accidents".
Some folks did some limited proof of concept hacking regarding being able to take control of unsuspecting vehicles remotely.
Think about how dangerous that maneuver was. Nobody knew that the collision shit would do that...
Cop placed his life on the line by getting in front to try to stop that car.
Some of that is true.
I mean...Onstar or whatever has been used to disable stolen vehicles. Similar might have been possible here but I don't know.
Engineers keep that in mind when designing the electrical. An automatic transmission has its own computer so if you put it in neutral it will come out of gear even if the engine computer fails.
I'm lost here.
Why not just turn off the ignition/engine and coast to a stop?
Why not just turn off the ignition/engine and coast to a stop?
Because you have democrats driving. They don’t have a clue. They cannot be trusted around anything that requires intelligence to operate.
this sort of thing has been going on for years, the roughly decade old Toyota issue is really what comes to my mind. It was a big story, then disappeared, Car and Driver tested and said the brakes will win
One of the first cars I ever owned was a beater, had to tow it home and work on it for a while before I could drive it. In the early days of it moving under it's own power the throttle cable would get stuck once in a while (yes I said cable, it was a 1970's car) No big deal, stomp on the pedal hard a few times to unstick it or cut off the engine (it had manual brakes and manual steering, and manual windows and manual everything else lol) pull over and manually unstuck the cable with my hands
People today are just morons that don't understand how anything works, or why anything works...
One of the first cars I ever owned was a beater, had to tow it home and work on it for a while before I could drive it. In the early days of it moving under it's own power the throttle cable would get stuck once in a while (yes I said cable, it was a 1970's car) No big deal, stomp on the pedal hard a few times to unstick it or cut off the engine (it had manual brakes and manual steering, and manual windows and manual everything else lol) pull over and manually unstuck the cable with my hands
People today are just morons that don't understand how anything works, or why anything works...
Push button ignition, push button transmission. They had him try all that - push the ignition button to turn it off, push the Neutral button on the transmission, nothing responded. It sounded like what DID still work was the collision avoidance system, so when they got in front and it got too close, it began to slow down. Then they let it make contact and assisted with their own brakes. That's what I got out of it, anyway. They had him try the emergency brake, but it only slowed him down 2mph. The one thing I didn't hear them suggest was to stand on the brakes with everything he had. I'd have tried that first.
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Nice display of a defaced flag. It should be burned.
Anybody else think that throwing stop sticks under the car at 115mph they were actually trying to kill him?
Who the fuck in their right mind thought that was a good idea?
Who the fuck in their right mind thought that was a good idea?
So, you’re having issues with the accelerator sticking in your car, which is an extremely dangerous, so you put your 18 year old son in the car to drive it? WTF is wrong with you?
Pretty sure blowing all 4 tires at 115MPH... the car will transform into a aerial acrobat before the ECM decides what to do about it.
Hey.. Let's have a meetup and try it out.
Mine doesn’t.
Also, holding my start/stop button at any speed will turn off the car.
Where is nagantguy? The cop haters should be cursing them for daring to do a good thing.
I don't have the desire to watch 15 mins of video. If this car had an old style key you could have clicked it back to accessory and shut the engine off. It makes me wonder about hackable digital cars and shit Kia security features
I don't have the desire to watch 15 mins of video. If this car had an old style key you could have clicked it back to accessory and shut the engine off. It makes me wonder about hackable digital cars and shit Kia security features
You should contact car and driver and let them know their test is flawed
for some reason in their test, that didn't happen
I wasn't there, can't speak to it
Also of note, not all cars run the exact same calipers, pad compounds, rotor diameters, brake boosters, or proportioning valves.
Also of note, it’s the tires that stop the car. Not the brakes.
Also of note, not all cars carry the exact same mass.
Seems as though this may come as a shock to some.
Also of note, it’s the tires that stop the car. Not the brakes.
Also of note, not all cars carry the exact same mass.
Seems as though this may come as a shock to some.
The vehicle was a 2022 Honda Pilot
Here is Honda's statement
"We are grateful that the customer is safe ... We cannot speculate about the issue experienced by the customer without a detailed inspection of the vehicle. We encourage the family to have the vehicle towed to an authorized Honda dealer to enable that inspection."
The pit has already diagnosed a nearly new car with having shitty brakes
this place is a riot. Call Honda and let them know you got it figured out already
Here is Honda's statement
"We are grateful that the customer is safe ... We cannot speculate about the issue experienced by the customer without a detailed inspection of the vehicle. We encourage the family to have the vehicle towed to an authorized Honda dealer to enable that inspection."
The pit has already diagnosed a nearly new car with having shitty brakes
this place is a riot. Call Honda and let them know you got it figured out alreadyHow many times have you stopped a full size SUV from 114mph, why still commanding maximum load from the engine? I don’t know that anyone is saying it has shitty brakes. At least that’s not what I’ve said.The vehicle was a 2022 Honda Pilot
Here is Honda's statement
"We are grateful that the customer is safe ... We cannot speculate about the issue experienced by the customer without a detailed inspection of the vehicle. We encourage the family to have the vehicle towed to an authorized Honda dealer to enable that inspection."
The pit has already diagnosed a nearly new car with having shitty brakes
As computers continue to take over cars I'd really like a fully independent totally mechanical "big red" lever to pull to sever the engine from the drive train. Pretty soon we are going to get to the point where a computer glitch or hacker will be able to take over your car (while you are in it) and you'll just be along for the ride.
I think that capability has probably existed for quite a while now.
Totally fake just like most of the Toyota unwanted acceleration claims. Why did the car all of the sudden shut down when the police got in front of it. Why isn't the engine still revving and the wheels spinning when they got it stopped it? What made the engine just shut down once the police got in front of the car? Total bullshit story by the kid driving.
There are many videos showing cars such as Teslas with a sleeping driver being stopped by slowing a vehicle in front, triggering the accident avoidance cameras. Not saying the story is true or not, but I think some are not considering how "drive by wire" a modern vehicle can be. Pedal isn't even connected to the brakes but to the computer. Same with throttle, gear selector, ignition switch, even the door handles.
A few deaths are acceptable for the advancement of technology. That's the way it has always been.
Acceptable... Except when it's you or a family member. Shit never happens to those that designed the stuff.
Acceptable... Except when it's you or a family member. Shit never happens to those that designed the stuff.
Todays drivers are getting lazier and dumber, plus distracted by their cell phones.
Cars are being made "smarter" and more automated, supposedly to make things safer and easier for drivers.
However, who builds and creates the "brains/control centers" in these cars? People, which means lots of mistakes and screwups in programming and design.
Cars are being made "smarter" and more automated, supposedly to make things safer and easier for drivers.
However, who builds and creates the "brains/control centers" in these cars? People, which means lots of mistakes and screwups in programming and design.
Do people listen to the video at all!?!
Why didn't he put it in neutral......he tried it didn't do anything.
Why did he turn the ignition off......he did it did do anything.
I am sure the kid was terrified but was calm given the situation. I know a lot of adults that panic if there auto windshield wipers don't turn on when it starts to rain and they don't know what to do.
Why didn't he put it in neutral......he tried it didn't do anything.
Why did he turn the ignition off......he did it did do anything.
I am sure the kid was terrified but was calm given the situation. I know a lot of adults that panic if there auto windshield wipers don't turn on when it starts to rain and they don't know what to do.
When driving at any speed in my F150 if something (person or car) gets close to crossing my path in a parking lot or on a road the dash lights up and buzzes and hits brakes. In the video you can hear the officer say the accident avoidance was slowing the car down to avoid the collision.
The Honda Pilot touch start vehicles have a PCM override feature that cannot be defeated. When driving if you push the Start/Stop button and hold it for two seconds or push it rapidly three times it overrides the PCM and kills the engine. The brakes on a Honda Pilot can easily overcome the engine, even at wide open throttle. A Honda Pilot can be shifted into neutral when driving under load.
All three of those things the kid said he tried and they did not work. His story is total fucking bullshit.
Some Honda Pilots do have a power surge defect. The vehicle will drop below normal idle speed then have a surge of power to regain idle. This can cause a car to feel like it is jumping forward but the surge only lasts one or two seconds. This is currently being investigated by the NTSB and NHTSA.
I physically investigated 22 of the Toyota unwanted acceleration claims when that was the latest fake car failure fad. Only one had signs of legitimate unwanted acceleration, but that was caused because the person was a pig, the car was full of trash and the mats were improperly installed. The mats got jammed into the accelerator pedal not allowing it to come all of the way back up, even that car didn't get stuck on full throttle and it turned off the way it was supposed to. The vast majority of the Toyota unwanted acceleration claims were scammers looking for a payday or attention seekers. I would venture a guess when the investigation into the event on the video is finished and the find no mechanical defect and the Event Data Recorder shows the throttle position sensor to be actively being manipulated by the kid he will face numerous serious charges.
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Very pleased to learn of a PCM override feature. Certainly welcome news. Event Data Recorders make scams pretty hard to pull off. I'm certain Honda will be out with a report soon, seeing as how much publicity this event gathered.
I think the 2% rule might apply here.
Or an 18 year old doing stupid shit 18 year olds do.
Or an 18 year old doing stupid shit 18 year olds do.
Video says he tried that as well as p̶u̶l̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ the emergency brake.
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Another good example of why I keep up the maintenance and repairs on my '94 K2500. I have no desire to drive a computer with wheels.
