Tikka T1X

#5,701
My NDR mag is metal and no burrs. It started out great and now it almost doesn't work. At first it was just one factory mag and then others started doing it. I took a couple apart (bit of a pain) and didn't notice anything. I thought they would be full of lead residue or something.

They just don't seem have the required nose up orientation. If I try to force it closed the bullet will get a notch pressed into the bottom from the edge of the chamber. Not all the time but pretty frequently.
 
#5,708
When I went to check last night of course it fed fine in the house from all my magazines. I did loosen the magwell and push it as close to the chamber as possible so I will see if the issue ever comes up again.
 
#5,709
Seems to feed fine now. Shooting pretty well too, at least for me. All CCI Standard Velocity. I hadn't checked the action screw torque before this and setting them both at 30" pounds seemed to help.

I shot these groups then hit four shotshells at 150 yards with six rounds in a breeze so I'll take that.
 
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#5,710
Pretty plain and boring but here's a picture after installing it in its new Bravo stock to help keep this thread going.


Torqued the action screws to 50" lbs. so I will see what sort of results that yields. If anyone has any particular luck with specific torque values with this setup feel free to share them.

I don't imagine it could possibly shoot any better in this stock but it makes for a better practice rifle for my centerfire Tikkas in KRG stocks.
 
#5,711
I've had my T1X for a year or so now and finally decided to try some better ammo in it and SK Standard+ was really the ticket. I had only been shooting CCI SV with pretty decent results. I just got my new HuxWurx Flow 22 Ti so figured I'd test it with some good ammo. I plan to do some testing at 100 yards this weekend.


 
#5,712
Dunno if it’s come up in this thread, but apparently Beretta let it slip to a buddy of mine that the T-1X will be discontinued in favor of a new model. Can’t wait to see what gets revealed at SHOT next year.
 
#5,713
Well that's neat. Of course I always feel like what I have becomes outdated when a company does that.

It seems like models of sporting firearms have a shorter lifespan than in the past. The Remington 700 and 10/22 have been in production for decades.

Maybe it's just easier to make new designs nowadays with modern technology.
 
#5,714
There’s nothing wrong with the T1 as a production bolt action rimfire option. I upgraded the bolt knob and dropped mine into a Bravo. Maybe they should just offer factory upgrades/ different models
 
#5,716
The only things I want to see changed is a match barrel option. A heavy weight 20-26" barrel would be a game changer.

I don't mind the factory stock but I'd like to see an adjustable cheek piece and a full sized LOP.

Basically just want a 22lr Super Varmint.
 
#5,719
I can see where they’d try to beef it up a bit, but I really like mine the way it is. I did add the vertical grip, wide forend and somebody’s trigger spring. I like to think of it as my “precision squirrel rifle”.
 
#5,720
This came out cause my bud purchased a T-1X at a gun show, then realized it had a ruined barrel. He was calling them at my suggestion to see if they would sell him a factory tube. The conversation didn’t go well, and that is when they made the statement.
I was able to put him in touch with a fb friend who had upgraded his barrel and sold my bud the factory take off.
 
#5,726
I’d be thrilled with a .830-.920 (or larger) diameter barrel with 24” length.
Existing action and trigger is great.
Only reason I want the heavier/ longer barrel is for weight distribution.
I personally don’t have issues with the existing mags, but understand the desire for factory 12 round option
At the end of the day, the T1x action is what sold me and it’s still awesome.
 
#5,727
Main problem I think here is Tikka vs Sako,
high-grade 22s were always the role of Sako.

Going upscale into Anschutz/Vudoo etc
terrirtory is going to piss off Sako.

Hopefully there is a middle ground.
and eg. follow CZ in pricing, etc
(ie a bit more mass production)
 
#5,728
The main issue with the factory T1x stock is it needs a lot of accessories right out of the gate: butt pad (to increase LOP), vertical grip, cheek riser.
Meaning it's a lot less value than the CZ457 options, and not as suited to base class for NRL.

The UPR fixes all of these but is pretty expensive so most people would rather just get a chassis on the base rifle.
If they offered the adjustable cheek piece stock (from the super varmint/tactical) and a heavier weight barrel, they price shouldn't change to dramatically but it would be considerably more competitive with the CZ 457 options.

If the teamed up with MDT, KRG, GRS etc and did a factory chassis then that'd be even better.
But as it stands you either have a rifle that isn't the best choice for base class, and requires a lot of mods for open class (chassis and barrel) that it's easier for most people to go CZ 457.

I bought my T1x very early and while it's been great, I would've bought a 457 instead if that was available at the time.
 
#5,730
Yeah, I've rebarrelled my T1x recently. I tell people to go CZ457.

However of a factory heavy barrel version came out I might reconsider.
I really like the action and magazines, it's the other bits that let it down for PRS/NRL.
 
#5,732
I was pretty interested in getting a T1x when they first came out, but could never seem to find a wholesale distributor with them in stock. Wound up buying several CZ457s instead - Varmint MTR, American, & VPT in the Manners stock. Wound up having to re-barrel the American & VPT due to poor accuracy, then when I got them both up & running with Shilen select match ratchets, found they were both far more consistently accurate than the Varmint MTR, so sold it. Those two CZ/Shilens completely satisfied my desire to have mid-priced .22RF rifles, and since I'd also gotten into a couple of Vudoo Gen 1 repeaters, the desire to buy a Tikka faded away. But I'd still like to see what they come out with next year or whenever. Better yet, I'd really like to see Sako get back into making .22RF repeater like the P78 & P94S that I bought because I like Sako rifles so much...
 
#5,734
I recently saw a very nice Sako P72 .22RF repeater online, but found it too late to bid on it. That makes two of them that I've seen recently, and I'm wondering why they did such a nice job of finishing the stocks on the 72s, while the P78 I found & bought has a stock with open pores & a darker, slightly rougher finish. Now I'm watching for another P72 to show up - an old friend has gotten into importing guns from Finland, and he's the source for the 2nd 72 I saw. Need to let him know that I'm looking for a P72 and see what comes up...
 
#5,735
I personally feel the P94S was a high water mark for accuracy, although I wouldn’t mind finding another P72 or P78. As for the Quad and FinnFire2, just don’t really have interest.
I immediately dropped my T-1X in a Bravo stock, so it became a “knockabout” version of a Finnfire Range as far as I’m concerned. I am looking forward to seeing what they develop next!
 
#5,737
What specifically don't you like about it compared to the CZ? I initially bought mine because it was the only 60-70° bolt lift option available. Also I hated the razor sharp Savage magazines so the Tikka ones were a big improvement.

I thought the factory stock was okay with aftermarket arca rail and custom cheek riser. I have had occasional feeding issues/sticky mags and the firing pin broke but I do like the trigger and the amount of aftermarket support.
 
#5,738
I get the thought process, but the idea of taking my centerfire rifle apart to put on a rimfire, then back to centerfire, re-assemble, re-zero and it's going to shoot exactly the same just makes me say no.

Honestly don't know a single person who switches there centerfire barreled action and rimfire barreled action between a single chassis or stock. Everyone I know has a stand alone rifle.
 
#5,739
+1 I don't understand this fascination with bad ideas...

Lets eliminate the clever parts of the t1x to copy the worst part of r700...:LOL::ROFLMAO::cry:
[ETA - adjustable magwell, universal T3 footprint, small-form factor mags...etc]
...Classic "too clever by half" thinking...
 
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#5,740
Nobody should be wanting 3inch-wide magazines for 22LR

All that does is push the rifle's balance point further away from your body,
and what for? to adds like 4lbs to the rifle to blance back properly?
 
#5,741
Don't know that I'd swap between them either, but expanding the available chassis choices, better magazine swaps and improved ejection all sound like wins to me.
 
#5,742
If you like the factory stock and aren't planning on doing a full retard PRS build then the T1x is an excellent rifle.

If you want a different stock from factory then the CZ457 gives you a lot more options. There are also more factory barrel lengths and weight options too.

And if you want to rebarrel the rifle, the CZ has a lot more options for barrels, and can take a heavier contour due to the design of the action. Not to mention Tikka barrels being a PIA to remove, whereas CZ is two grub screws.
 
#5,743
Mine was never a real tack driver. Barrel changes suck. If I did not press downwards on the bolt handle the next round would point to the sky and jam, from day 1. With the aftermarket barrel, the last shot in the mag never feed cleanly. Always had to wiggle the bolt. After 20+ matches and 40-50K through it, I don’t miss it at all. I worked around all these things and did well, but I got tired of the drama.
 
#5,744
T1X barrels need heat to melt the glue that holds them in and loosen the grub screws that were apparently tightened using nuclear powered devices while the barrel was heated to the temperature of the sun. The factory stock would feel fitting in a Savage. Once the glue is melted out, the receiver opening is never quite square again either.

Edit: All this being said, if Tikka/Sako came out with a basic chassis (not yoga flexi like the RPR) and match chambered 24” barrel with a match trigger; and all the components played well together, they would kick ass. As it is, CZ owns the mid market.
 
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