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I read it as "Sadly, they only do the 1.5" Cantilever in their QD".....as in, you wanted a QD that was NOT 1.5" high. Which is the same reason I reiterated I had the 1.25" version.
I don't use/like QD...
Per my post:
The "sadly" would denote I don't like/want QD; and the mention of wanting a C1 (a non-QD) should reinforce that.
Thus your rant/chastising of QD is misdirected.
Reading...It's fundamental
www.solidsolutiondesigns.com
That is exactly what I hoped they stuck with. Changed my mind on paper from HTR to DMR. Hopefully I can see both through the scope at SHOT though before deciding
For me, for this type of optic, my brain parses the whole numbers of the DMR a bit quicker by just splitting to the half mil if I need to. But, yes, you never really know how a paper reticle is going to resolve in real life.
What are you talking about? The attachment system uses two tapered bosses… I don’t think you understand how the top ring mount system works.
You did not say "how" you obtained this scope, I'm going to assume some type of clandestine operation over the border...
You did not say "how" you obtained this scope, I'm going to assume some type of clandestine operation over the border...
How about a dual, you use your ZCO 2-10 and I'll use my March 1.5-15, we walk 100 paces apart, turn and...Well, actually yes.
I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you afterwards ...
You decide.
How about you both start about 1500-2k yards apart and stalk towards each other. First one to get spotted, well you know the restHow about a dual, you use your ZCO 2-10 and I'll use my March 1.5-15, we walk 100 paces apart, turn and...
Well, actually yes.
I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you afterwards ...
You decide.
But it would be fun to have the ZCO 2-10 and March 1.5-15 side by side, so why don't you fly out to Florida and we'll shoot together and compare opticsHow about a dual, you use your ZCO 2-10 and I'll use my March 1.5-15, we walk 100 paces apart, turn and...
Oooh, even better. Feels like I've seen this in a movie...
How about a dual, you use your ZCO 2-10 and I'll use my March 1.5-15, we walk 100 paces apart, turn and...
You would be dead by the time you got your parallax and diopter in sync.How about a dual, you use your ZCO 2-10 and I'll use my March 1.5-15, we walk 100 paces apart, turn and...
But it would be fun to have the ZCO 2-10 and March 1.5-15 side by side, so why don't you fly out to Florida and we'll shoot together and compare optics
So then the answer to the question I asked, not the question you instead answered, is "nobody".
I didn't realize 419 made cantilever mounts. Still not in the super lightweight realm, but just under 8oz is at least getting more realistic. It sounds like that 8oz may include the pic rail, so maybe closer to 7oz without it.I might know a guy who sells 36mm cantilever mounts that arent QD.... (also some of the best mounts on the market)
Area 419 Cantilevered Tactical One-Piece Scope Mount
These mounts come with a small pic section on the front cap. For an extended Diving Board mount, CLICK HERE
The 419 mounts are fantastic, but my 30mm non-cantilever 1.26” high mount with the small picatinny on top is 8 oz.
It appears Tier One now makes a 36mm cantilever mount at 7oz
tier-one-usa.com
Those must be fairly new, I looked on Tier One site a few months back.It appears Tier One now makes a 36mm cantilever mount at 7oz
Cantilever Scope Mount | TIER ONE®
// FREE SHIPPING - LIFETIME WARRANTY // - Cantilever scope mount, monolithic, for AR15, AR10 and precision rifle application. The most optically accurate mounts in the world. 7075T6 aluminum. This will get you on target quicker. Click here for more.
Edit: fixed the link
What did you not like about the 315M? I have never seen one in person. I have a TT525, and a guy at the range has a TT315P I have shot a couple of times. The 315M is certainly longer than the ZC210 or even the S&B 5-20, but I don't see that as an issue unless you are looking to use a clip on. Weight would be more important to me. Feel free to point out if I am missing a drawback on that one.
I would like to think most everyone here builds to a purpose. The manufacture, in ZCOs case, built it to a specific contract use case.
I wouldn't define a TT reticle as something that needs "toughing out". My point is, if you get proficient with whatever you are using, finding holds is automatic. Unless the reticle is really bad, which I don;t classify the TT.
I guess I would need to see what you describe for myself. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen. I don't have any shooters around me that do this, so almost everything I do or try is on my dime. I can afford an alpha-class scope here and there, but trying a bunch of different ones just to see what I like is not in my capability. I need to figure out what is likely best and make one move.
The fact that people are cross-shopping illustrates the fact that the ZC210 didn't hit the mark for many consumers.
Yeah, it's a weird one. Ultimately I feel it would be at home most on SCAR/UXR type platforms or AR-10 frame semi-auto. I am not happy about the weight, either, and you are correct in your assessment that it moves the entire systems weight up, which is a consideration. I am mainly curious if the eyebox, forgiveness, reticle and FOV will "wow" me into dismissing the weight factor. If it doesn't, I expect it won't stay around as the above mentioned weapon systems aren't really my cup of tea.
Ive stayed out of this discussion but followed with mild interest, but will insert my (worthless) opinion again.
I expect that eyebox, etc will be excellent on the scope. Whether this is worth the weight will depend on the user and application.
I agree with all of this.
I have a March 1-10, the original 33/30mm model. It weighs 19oz. But it has its own trade-offs in the optical department.
