Trump won’t abolish the ATF

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

He could, he won’t, and that’s how I know he doesn’t give a shit about the people.

Seriously, tell me why he can’t give his inauguration speech and conclude with “the following unconstitutional federal agencies are hear by disbanded, atf, fbi, ect” it’s one of the very few “powers” potus actually has.

The atf and all the unconstitutional laws will remain throughout another 4 years as an ever present specter to drum up support for republicans.

Waiting on someone with a Reagan related
sig quote/avatar to accuse me of wanting Harris to win.

Camelfilter · Nov 8, 2024

You didn't vote for him, correct?

Yasherka · Nov 8, 2024

Hello fellow gun enthusiast!

Supersubes · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
He could, he won’t, and that’s how I know he doesn’t give a shit about the people.

Seriously, tell me why he can’t give his inauguration speech and conclude with “the following unconstitutional federal agencies are hear by disbanded, atf, fbi, ect” it’s one of the very few “powers” potus actually has.

The atf and all the unconstitutional laws will remain throughout another 4 years as an ever present specter to drum up support for republicans.

Waiting on someone with a Reagan related
sig quote/avatar to accuse me of wanting Harris to win.

Were you under the impression that he would?

MarshallDodge · Nov 8, 2024

I didn't vote for Trump to abolish the ATF. If he reigns in government overreach, like he did last time, I'll be okay with that.

Camelfilter · Nov 8, 2024

Yasherka said:
Hello fellow gun enthusiast!

Not sure which one @HSNARC is. Doesn't matter tho...

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Supersubes said:
Were you under the impression that he would?

It’s more of a critique of all the folks here saying we had to vote for him to protect the 2a

Camelfilter · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
It’s more of a critique of all the folks here saying we had to vote for him to protect the 2a

Yah, you're either a glowie, or retarded. Not developmentally challenged, retarded.

Maxduty · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
He could, he won’t, and that’s how I know he doesn’t give a shit about the people.

Seriously, tell me why he can’t give his inauguration speech and conclude with “the following unconstitutional federal agencies are hear by disbanded, atf, fbi, ect” it’s one of the very few “powers” potus actually has.

The atf and all the unconstitutional laws will remain throughout another 4 years as an ever present specter to drum up support for republicans.

Waiting on someone with a Reagan related
sig quote/avatar to accuse me of wanting Harris to win.

This isn't quite right. You expect your Mayor to get rid of the police department because some officers were bad actors. Stop hanging up on the firearms part and look at the alcohol, tobacco and explosives part.

Mwalex · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
It’s more of a critique of all the folks here saying we had to vote for him to protect the 2a

Just so I understand what you are saying - the ONLY way DJT can protect the 2A is through the dissolution of the ATF?

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Camelfilter said:
Not sure which one @HSNARC is. Doesn't matter tho...

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Yepp, you got me. “Sorry sir, yeah I made a post about the potus using his constitutional power to peacefully disband an unconstitutional federal agency and not a single one offered to engage in an act of furtherance toward violent overthrow” “weirdest thing”

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Mwalex said:
Just so I understand what you are saying - the ONLY way DJT can protect the 2A is through the dissolution of the ATF?

I mean he could use a republican house/senate to repeal the nfa but that’s never going to happen even more.

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Camelfilter said:
You didn't vote for him, correct?

As a libertarian I don’t vote. I know I know I’m gay and retarded.

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Maxduty said:
This isn't quite right. You expect your Mayor to get rid of the police department because some officers were bad actors. Stop hanging up on the firearms part and look at the alcohol, tobacco and explosives part.

Oh you’re gonna hate this take, but yes, If the “good” officers won’t take out the trash then yes. And the ATF has no right to regulate any of those other things.

Darryle · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
As a libertarian I don’t vote. I know I know I’m gay and retarded.

Then shut the fuck up

Fig · Nov 8, 2024

BUT COMMA

My opinion should count and is important. The libertarian party is nothing but gay dope smokers anymore.

Liberty and libertinism is NOT the same thing. One requires agency and responsibility, and the other is more of a free-for-all of perversion.

The ATF is absolutely needed to go after the cartels on our Southern border. If they think they're such tough badasses in their armor and with their raids of dads they can go raid the cartels who will shoot back, and they have my blessings. We'll see how hardcore and badass they are when their targets are actual violent criminals, and not people who have an illegal vert grip on a hobby toy.

Necessary 3vil · Nov 8, 2024

The FUCK is the point of this post?

Necessary 3vil · Nov 8, 2024

No NEED to rid the BATFE….
We as a country NEED this department. Not the NFA side, that’s a different story. It could use some adjustments but is also necessary. It’s NOT just about firearms control….
If you know you know…YOU obviously DON’t know.!.!.!.!

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Necessary 3vil said:
The FUCK is the point of this post?

To see how long it would take to get someone on a gun forum to say we need the ATF around.

No seriously tell me what I dont know. Are you trying to say you have a bunch of money tied up in class 3 fudd investments?

hlee · Nov 8, 2024

It’s funny what authority people think the President has, relative to the authority he actually has.

stanley_white · Nov 8, 2024

While he won’t abolish them, he could order the “F” side to only focus on certain things.

-Stan

Supersubes · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
It’s more of a critique of all the folks here saying we had to vote for him to protect the 2a

When you voted for Cameltoe, did that represent a stronger protection of the 2nd?

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

hlee said:
It’s funny what authority people think the President has, relative to the authority he actually has.

Disbanding a federal agency?

DocRDS · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
It’s more of a critique of all the folks here saying we had to vote for him to protect the 2a

Recognize these 3?

Recognize this?

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

HSNARC said:
As a libertarian I don’t vote. I know I know I’m gay and retarded.

That's an insult to gay and retarded people. Didn't vote and Bitch about a guy who isn't even in office yet because he won't do 1 specific thing when we are so far down the pit we need step 1: STOP DIGGING. GET THE FUCK OUT

(I've been good for too long but assholes like you are why gun owners are in this place, take your ball and go home YOU FUCKING PUSSY while the real men (and women) do the lifting)

widefat77 · Nov 8, 2024

Camelfilter said:
Not sure which one @HSNARC is. Doesn't matter tho...

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Looks like a Mormon missionary picnic.

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Supersubes said:
When you voted for Cameltoe, did that represent a stronger protection of the 2nd?

I didn’t

I don’t vote, libertarian, discussed above.

Wanna know something real scary? I don’t say the pledge of allegiance or remove my hat for the national anthem.

Soulezoo · Nov 8, 2024

Trump, not being a dictator, cannot just wave a wand to eliminate a gov agency, or do a lot of things. Separation of powers and all that (although Obama and Biden certainly used the pen)
The facts are: Trump is the most 2a friendly Prez in the past 100 years or so and it isn't even close.

He gave us 3 important Justices and in time, that's where the corrections will come.

I believe that after the current court session ends, Alito will retire. Soon after (maybe one year) Thomas will retire. There's two more justices (and the bench to pick from, the likely choices that is, are strong 2a advocates. (Like VanDyke in the 9th circuit). That's good for a 2a majority for decades. There's also talk of Sotomayor leaving due to poor health. Although, she's likely to hang on hoping for a Democrat in 4 years.

Before you start spouting "but muh bump stock"... realize this: what he did is likely the best strategic move you'll ever see in retrospect. Research it yourself... too complicated to explain to the smooth brains here. Seek Four Boxes Diner for high level explanation.

hlee · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
Disbanding a federal agency?

Jrb572 · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
As a libertarian I don’t vote. I know I know I’m gay and retarded.

If you don’t vote then I don’t want to hear you bitch that something you think should happen won’t.

Mike Casselton · Nov 8, 2024

Necessary 3vil said:
No NEED to rid the BATFE….
We as a country NEED this department. Not the NFA side, that’s a different story. It could use some adjustments but is also necessary. It’s NOT just about firearms control….
If you know you know…YOU obviously DON’t know.!.!.!.!

You made a statement.

How about explaining it instead of IYKYK bullshit.

Supersubes · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
I didn’t

I don’t vote, libertarian, discussed above.

Wanna know something real scary? I don’t say the pledge of allegiance or remove my hat for the national anthem.

I read that after, makes this even funnier. Are you a member of the libertarian party?

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

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DocRDS said:
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Recognize these 3?

Recognize this?

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

That's an insult to gay and retarded people. Didn't vote and Bitch about a guy who isn't even in office yet because he won't do 1 specific thing when we are so far down the pit we need step 1: STOP DIGGING. GET THE FUCK OUT

(I've been good for too long but assholes like you are why gun owners are in this place, take your ball and go home YOU FUCKING PUSSY while the real men (and women) do the lifting)

If voting protected rights we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Guns protect and ensure rights. My one specific thing is removing the entity which hinders your ability to protect those rights. It’s the only hill to die on.

Trash me all you want but your hole would be a hell of a lot easier to get out of if the overseer didn’t have a belt fed and you did.

akg102 · Nov 8, 2024

Regardless of what Trump does or doesn't do, this thread is a perfect example for why Republicans get cucked by the likes of McCain, Romney, Bush, Reagan, Santorum, Rubio, etc.... for decades.

Docsherm · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
Disbanding a federal agency?

Hello, retard....... As a person that is mentally challenged, I will help you out using small words. He does not need to disband it or even defund it. He des not have to power to do dither one of those things as they were approved and funded by a different branch of government. As the head of the executive branch of government he does have the power to fire all of the people that work for the ATF.

And FYI... shitstains like you are the reason IL sucks so fucking bad. Not voting because you like to loose is worse than voting DEM.

Last question...... does your parent know how gay you are?

Maxduty · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
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If voting protected rights we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Guns protect and ensure rights. My one specific thing is removing the entity which hinders your ability to protect those rights. It’s the only hill to die on.

Trash me all you want but your hole would be a hell of a lot easier to get out of if the overseer didn’t have a belt fed and you did.

But you CAN own a belt fed. What's the issue?

Docsherm · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
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If voting protected rights we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Guns protect and ensure rights. My one specific thing is removing the entity which hinders your ability to protect those rights. It’s the only hill to die on.

Trash me all you want but your hole would be a hell of a lot easier to get out of if the overseer didn’t have a belt fed and you did.

Who is to say that I do not have a belt feed? I live in a free state and can own them...... unlike you people.....

Docsherm · Nov 8, 2024

Maxduty said:
But you CAN own a belt fed. What's the issue?

He can't...... He is in a Communist state.

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Supersubes said:
I read that after, makes this even funnier. Are you a member of the libertarian party?

No. Libertarian as in “don’t hurt other people, don’t take their stuff” not weed republican

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Docsherm said:
Who is to say that I do not have a belt feed? I live in a free state and can own them...... unlike you people.....

Where do you live where you can own a FA that you didn’t need to ask/pay ATF for the pleasure? Also anything made after 86?

HPIguy · Nov 8, 2024

Darryle said:
Then shut the fuck up

THIS!!!

Cowpokey · Nov 8, 2024

I must reiterate in simpler words what others have posted above: you no vote -> you no complain (I typed that slowly, because I know you can't read fast)

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Baron23 · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
Seriously, tell me why he can’t give his inauguration speech and conclude with “the following unconstitutional federal agencies are hear by disbanded, atf, fbi, ect”

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Docsherm said:
He can't...... He is in a Communist state.

IL is run by a non-Italian version of the Mafia.

In “free” states you still have to ask permission from the feds and then buy an antique at 14,000% markup.

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Baron23 said:
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So are you saying you don’t believe the president could disband the ATF if he wanted to? If so please explain it to me I’m obviously very dumb.

HSNARC · Nov 8, 2024

Cowpokey said:
I must reiterate in simpler words what others have posted above: you no vote -> you no complain (I typed that slowly, because I know you can't read fast)

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could I still complain if I voted for Harris? What if I wrote in my cats name?

Soulezoo · Nov 8, 2024

One thing that is very important to keep in mind:
When Democrats are in, they can do a lot because they have a compliant media and a deep state that facilitates the nonsense. (Remember that 97+% of DC and surroundings are Democrats) Trump has nothing but opposition that fight him every step of the way in every way possible. This greatly inhibits his ability to get things done. Also greatly limits the number of people he can trust.

The deep state as we call it is a very real thing. Obama refers to it as "The Blob".

On edit: just read where Democrats are hatching a plan to push Sotomayor out the door right now so Biden can replace with another far left liberal (think K. Jackson mold) before Trump gets in.

akmike47 · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
I didn’t

I don’t vote, libertarian, discussed above.

Wanna know something real scary? I don’t say the pledge of allegiance or remove my hat for the national anthem.

The crazy part is you assume anyone gives a shit about you. You’re just some lonely faggot trying to feel self important thats failing at trying to get a rise out of dumb people

You live in a shit dark blue island of a state but you're the authority on liberty…lol

plong · Nov 8, 2024

Man... between this thread and Scorched Earth thread the glowies are out in-force today...

Docsherm · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
Where do you live where you can own a FA that you didn’t need to ask/pay ATF for the pleasure? Also anything made after 86?

This says all I need to know about you....... FYI... Congress passes laws and they did so before the ATF was created.

Don't you have to get a permit or some crazy BS just to buy ammo or a gun in IL? Is the US Congress or the ATF controlling that too?

Docsherm · Nov 8, 2024

HSNARC said:
Where do you live where you can own a FA that you didn’t need to ask/pay ATF for the pleasure? Also anything made after 86?

And you can't own a machinegun even if the ATF, and the NFA went away......... So shut the fuck up

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