Except on every single bird and smaller than them animal.
Feral cats are a big nasty problem and should be hunted
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Pits attack and kill bike rider
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Feral cats are a big nasty problem and should be hunted
I have three pits right now. I have owned, fostered and/or worked with 20+ of them over my life.
They are all individuals.
Some I could trust, some I couldn't. Some could go to the public dog park, some never got let off a leash or allowed around other dogs without a muzzle. Almost all of them would kill any nuisance animal that got in the yard.
They are actually great dogs IMO, but to say they don't have a tendency to be more dominate and animal aggressive, would be just ignorant. I persoanlly haven't ran into many human aggressive ones that didn't have a history of abuse or neglect. I don't think that behavior should be tried to be rehabilitated with these dogs. Too much liability.
They weren't bred to be human aggressive, as they still had to be handled before and after being rolled (faught), or when being used to hunt game. All of the ghetto breeding doesn't help though.
As others have said, they are just super athletic and once they are determined to do something, there is little you can do to stop them. "Gameness" is a real thing, and some pits excel at it.
At the same time, "Pit bull" is a name for every version of ghetto bred mutt that has a big head and short fur. That's why the bite stats are so high for them. And also because of the people who generally own and neglect them.
I can see why people hate them. I can see why people love them.
They are all individuals.
Some I could trust, some I couldn't. Some could go to the public dog park, some never got let off a leash or allowed around other dogs without a muzzle. Almost all of them would kill any nuisance animal that got in the yard.
They are actually great dogs IMO, but to say they don't have a tendency to be more dominate and animal aggressive, would be just ignorant. I persoanlly haven't ran into many human aggressive ones that didn't have a history of abuse or neglect. I don't think that behavior should be tried to be rehabilitated with these dogs. Too much liability.
They weren't bred to be human aggressive, as they still had to be handled before and after being rolled (faught), or when being used to hunt game. All of the ghetto breeding doesn't help though.
As others have said, they are just super athletic and once they are determined to do something, there is little you can do to stop them. "Gameness" is a real thing, and some pits excel at it.
At the same time, "Pit bull" is a name for every version of ghetto bred mutt that has a big head and short fur. That's why the bite stats are so high for them. And also because of the people who generally own and neglect them.
I can see why people hate them. I can see why people love them.
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Your delusional, I just want to know how to kill the cats that kill my chickens or use my neighbors flower beds as a litter box
We need to be like the aussies
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Definitely take out the wild feral cats as they are a nuisance.
Someone's well fed pet cat will not risk its own life and limb trying to kill something close to its own size.
You don't have to worry about cats forming a pack to multiply their lethality like dogs.
You never hear in the news about cats killing humans like you do dogs.
Can you imagine if cats did kill humans though? Getting eaten alive by a pack of 50 feral cats?
You'd be looking for pittbull to end the misery.
The Breed of Peace has flourished as the most common dog breed or type with the de-evolution of society. I never heard of a pit bull as a kid and I come from a long line of dog people..
They came to be at the turn of the century during the Victorian era when handlebar moustached 'Sporting men' visiting red-light districts and attending dog fights was an accepted form of entertainment.
It wasn't until ghetto life became cool that pits became the predominant dog breed. If Kamala Harris had a dog it would be a pit.
Do they include GS K9 police bites in the statistics? Cuz that would drive up the numbers like police shootings drive up the homicide stats.
it's the owners AND the dogs. i would rate 1/2 of the pits i see as ok. 85% of austrialian shepards are SHIT- and that is usually the owner's fault....but some of them just need shooting.
i don't understand how some people have a nice pit, but can't seem to understand that some of them ain't so sweet as their's.
my favorite dog i ever had was a rottie bitch. had her 8 years. one day my 2 1/2 year old boy went teetering past her, and the growl was almost imperceptible. it would have been really easy to blow that off. but i love my sons more than anything. as much as i loved that dog, i took her out and shot her immediately. i cried for 3 days.
when you own a dog with this much power and capacity, you OWE it to the people around you, and the dog, to be a good owner.
i was at Ft Bragg last week. went outside for a few minutes in a residential area. sitting on a tailgate of a pickup, a malinois cross and a intact pit came through the yards chasing squirrels. after the squirrels treed, they turned to me. flew to Bragg, and was on post so i was unarmed. had i been anywhere else, i would have killed both of them on the spot. as it was, i swung my feet up into the bed and closed the gate. fuckers ran through the neighborhood hunting...thank goodness no kids were out in the yards. they came back through 40 minutes later. both need killing.
some dogs are bad. they got that way because of their owners. even if the dog is fucked up, the owners not putting them down puts the fault 1000% on the owner.
i don't understand how some people have a nice pit, but can't seem to understand that some of them ain't so sweet as their's.
my favorite dog i ever had was a rottie bitch. had her 8 years. one day my 2 1/2 year old boy went teetering past her, and the growl was almost imperceptible. it would have been really easy to blow that off. but i love my sons more than anything. as much as i loved that dog, i took her out and shot her immediately. i cried for 3 days.
when you own a dog with this much power and capacity, you OWE it to the people around you, and the dog, to be a good owner.
i was at Ft Bragg last week. went outside for a few minutes in a residential area. sitting on a tailgate of a pickup, a malinois cross and a intact pit came through the yards chasing squirrels. after the squirrels treed, they turned to me. flew to Bragg, and was on post so i was unarmed. had i been anywhere else, i would have killed both of them on the spot. as it was, i swung my feet up into the bed and closed the gate. fuckers ran through the neighborhood hunting...thank goodness no kids were out in the yards. they came back through 40 minutes later. both need killing.
some dogs are bad. they got that way because of their owners. even if the dog is fucked up, the owners not putting them down puts the fault 1000% on the owner.
I call bullshit on that graph. No eff'g way Beagles are the 5th most aggressive breed, more so than pits.Sure, sure, sure.
And 9mm is responsible for more deaths and wounds than any other caliber so we should ban that too.
My Beagle was aggressive when a guest sat down to eat at our table and he would see them as an easy mark and would rare up on their lap and when they raised their elbow he would come up under it, laying his head sideways like a croc or an alligator grabbing something on the bank and clean that persons plate off.
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Do NOT disagree.
It's not something I believe to be genuinely accurate just an illustration that neither is the 90+% claim "accurate".
Oddly, there are a ton of pages out there dedicated to teaching people how to recognize and manage the aggressive behavior of beagles.
Lies, damned lies and statistics. I think that chart was made with data collected from "reports" of bites but, like most statistics, there is no context and it can't possibly take into account ALL bites. Dogs bite people, usually for a reason and usually that reason is based on some poor decision a human made. Either the human that got bit or the human responsible for the dog.
All statistics are sketchy. I've been bitten by dogs at least two or three dozen times in my life and none of them were by pit bull types but also no beagles. And I never reported any of them so data skewed. But somewhere out there somebody must have a bunch of beagles accessible to a bunch of idiots who get themselves bitten then go full victim and report it.
I agree with your observations that the general breeds of bulls and terriers in this group showed up in the US in the 1800s and the "bull terrier" was recognized as a breed around the turn of the century.
They have been around for a while and they didn't earn the reputation they have until the late 20th century when people thought it was a good idea to import a dog bred to hold its own against hogs into their living rooms. Idiots and hood rats. Before that, before 1970s/80s, pits were not the breed at the top of the fatality or bite charts. Any large breed mishandled or not managed correctly can become a threat to human lives, even the Labrador has at least one human kill to its credit and lab's are some of the most go-along-get-along dogs on the planet.
Based on experience with people I've personally known who have owned pits they can be a manageable family pet but it takes discipline and dominance to teach them their place in the pack that most people who get them don't possess. The pits that have killed humans didn't just wake up on the farm one day and decide to form a pack, trot into the city and start killing humans they were put there and given the opportunity by the poor decision making and irresponsibility of humans.
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The dumb fucks come out of the woodwork for pit bull threads. Where’s Tony Burkes?
We have four dogs. Two hounds, a shepherd, and a pit.
Which one can be trusted to not be aggressive around any non threatening person or animal?
Which one can just sit or lay on the front porch or garage and not move when people or dogs walk by?
Which one can be brought anywhere any time with no concern?
The answer is the pitty.
There’s a lot of faggots here and they probably ride bicycles where cars go.
We have four dogs. Two hounds, a shepherd, and a pit.
Which one can be trusted to not be aggressive around any non threatening person or animal?
Which one can just sit or lay on the front porch or garage and not move when people or dogs walk by?
Which one can be brought anywhere any time with no concern?
The answer is the pitty.
There’s a lot of faggots here and they probably ride bicycles where cars go.
Your anecdote is statistically insignificant.
Considering I’ve been around thousands of pitties doing work at shelters, absolutely not. How many shelters have you worked at were dogs are dumped off by the worst of humanity? Because I personally volunteer at two right now.
Dogs are awesome and you’re a faggot.
Follow up stories say they came back with warrants to seize the dogs, but the dogs have disappeared.
Also 15 prior complaints about these dogs to police.
Nine pit bull dogs in one urban yard?
Check out the extent of his injuries in this article. Nasty stuff. He had to endure 23 minutes of this.
Not homeless. Employed as a carpenter and was riding the one mile ride home from a friend's house when he was attacked.
This one says they seized the dogs.
"Police, the Fire Department and SWAT officers tried to stop the attack using sirens and lights to scare the dogs away.
The dogs, according to a neighbor who spoke to their owner, had been trained to fight other dogs.
The Kansas City Police Department said that teams, including the Kansas City Pet Project, worked together to seize the dogs and an investigation is underway."
www.dailymail.co.uk
"Police, the Fire Department and SWAT officers tried to stop the attack using sirens and lights to scare the dogs away.
The dogs, according to a neighbor who spoke to their owner, had been trained to fight other dogs.
The Kansas City Police Department said that teams, including the Kansas City Pet Project, worked together to seize the dogs and an investigation is underway."
Chilling video shows dogs rush up to man before he meets horrific fate
Chilling footage shows the horrific moment a man in Missouri is mauled to death by a group of vicious dogs.
I can’t even hold a candle to your virtue.
There was that dog that could sniff out cancer...
Pits in KC. Going out on a limb here and guessing that the owners work for the national institute for government grievances and equality relations....
I owned a pit for 14 years , not one issue . But I’m here to tell you if the break bad , on you , you are hurt badly . They feel no pain. I worked in the pipeline industry in the field for over 30 years , I was bitten 2x and neither time was a pit . HALT dog spray works and WILL deter an attack . I hit a pincher with a 6ft long piece of sch 80 , 2 in pipe , he never slowed the attack on the other dog . All dogs have teeth and will bite . You just seem to hear about the pit attacks . Tell me how many people killed from misuse of a cell phone and I bet it out numbers , pit attacks .
Misuse of a cell phone doesn't rip toddlers throats out.
I'll say it again:
You should be able to have any kind of dog you want, but if your dog injures someone severely, you should get a felony assault charge. If it kills someone, you should get murder 1. If you don't want to face the consequences, don't get a dog capable of that kind of damage, and if you really believe your Pitt won't hurt anyone, then you have nothing to worry about. I guarantee the number of pit owners who would willingly agree to that deal, which is truly fair, would be less than 10%. You're all willing to gamble other people's safety on your judgement of a dog, well, put your own individual freedom on the line..
Really a strange statement , killed or harmed is the same in the end . No matter if a train wreck or at birth from your mother .
In Ky there was a drunk driver that killed 27 innocent people , he is now free .
What happens if a pit bull kills one ? Explain how you define a death differently , with different outcomes . Just my 2cents which is worth nothing
In Ky there was a drunk driver that killed 27 innocent people , he is now free .
What happens if a pit bull kills one ? Explain how you define a death differently , with different outcomes . Just my 2cents which is worth nothing
Both of you are being ridiculous. You know exactly what I'm describing. I'm not talking about a situation where biting someone is justified, as in the defense of your home or person, (which by the way, almost never actually happens), but I am talking about what actually happens, like the story above, or any of the child deaths, or any of the delivery people who get injured by these dogs etc..
So how about cattle farmers? Should they be held to the same standards when cows get out and someone dies in from it?
Again, ridiculous. Did the cow attack someone? Was the cow an animal with the propensity for violence? The cow is food that we all rely on. The cow is a benefit to society. The cow is neccessary.
Nothing I just said about that cows applies to shit bulls.
I'm sure it has happened, but I've never heard of an instance of such.
I guess the part that makes this easy for me is that the cow serves the common good. It is our food source, and while I'm sure there have been people "attacked" by cows, it's so rare that it is a non-issue. There are probably 50k cows out there for every pitt bull in America, and they are responsible for a fraction of "attacks" as related to pitt bulls. I worked around cows many times in my life, and in fact, worked 3 summers at night running the steers in and out at a rodeo/ cattle penning arena. I've never seen a cow hurt anyone except when they are panicked and feeling trapped. They will hurt you fast trying to get away from you. That's not even remotely the same thing..
If I am not mistaken it is like 25 people a year killed from cows in the US.
Not saying I agree or disagree with what you are saying but I was using this as an example of how such a law could cause all kinds of issues for other things.
I understand what you're saying, but they aren't the same thing. The "per capita" thing destroys this anyways. Google says there are 87.2 million cows in America and 18 million pitt bulls. Pitt bulls average 20.48 deaths per year, cows average 20-25 per year, (I didn't overlook that format, that's what the data I could find said). Now, when you consider that almost all of those cow deaths are people in rodeos or people working cattle, and most of them are freak accidents, it's really not a debate. Almost 5 times as many cows kill about the same number of people as the dogs do, and most of that is accidental, or it's because people want to ride 2,000lb bulls after tying a rope around their nuts and intentionally pissing them off. I also believe the pitt numbers are severely under reported. They call almost every dog a "mixed breed" if they don't know it's origin. Then when you consider, of that 18 million pitts, probably 6-8 million of them are in shelters waiting for their turn to die, and never have an opportunity to harm anyone, it's really obvious what's happening here..
If one cow kills 25 people is that a mass moohoofing?
Well reading the responses it's obvious you don't understand how laws are supposed to work.
Laws are obviously supposed to work on feels, misrepresentation of data and ignoring stuff that doesn't agree with your "data".
When in doubt Exodus?
5 hurt as bull named Party Bus escapes arena, charges into Oregon rodeo crowd
5 hurt as bull named Party Bus escapes arena, charges into Oregon rodeo crowd
Organizers of the Saturday night event said all those who were injured have been treated and released.
www.nbcnews.com
Horrifying moment rampaging bull gores one man to death and injures girl, 3
Horrifying moment rampaging bull gores one man to death and injures girl, 3
The horrific moment has led to further calls to ban bull-running in Spain.
www.express.co.uk
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You think I would learn my lesson trying to bring some common since into a conversation and make people think.Well reading the responses it's obvious you don't understand how laws are supposed to work.
Laws are obviously supposed to work on feels, misrepresentation of data and ignoring stuff that doesn't agree with your "data".
