Pits attack and kill bike rider

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

I don't believe it's entirely senseless.

If we were talking about feral packs of dogs I'd give you a point for that.

Owners make a difference in both cases. Negligent discharges, loaded guns within reach of a curious hand ...



You really are funny. You only want to push data points to the extreme that back your opinion. Very liberal of you.

I don't really need the data points, although I'm not sure how pointing out that the dog that is responsible for 90%+ of all fatal attacks and hospitalization dog bites in the last century makes me a liberal.

Do you have data points that prove something different? You don't, you just don't my friend. The data is actually very clear. I hate them for what I've seen them do with my own eyes, not what every single data compilation displays in simple concensus. Thank you for pointing out that I'm funny, I do try.

 

[Short-bus]

Went to high school with him. Didn't really know him, we weren't in the same social circles. That's a shitty way to die. Probly worse than burning to death in a fire.

 

[doubloon]

the dog that is responsible for 90%+ of all fatal attacks

Sure, 90%+, I understand the feelings but I don't understand the math. Plus what people and all the statistics call a "pit bull" are actually multiple breeds so, sure, pit bull "type".

From 1979-1998
66 Pit Bull "type"
39 Rottweiler
17 German Shepherd
15 Husky "type"
12 Malamute
9 Doberman
8 Chow Chow
7 Great Dane
7 St. Bernard

66 out of 180 == 90%+

Dog Attack Statistics By Breed 2024

Dog attacks can be frightening and can cause devastating injuries. Whether you’re considering a dog bite lawsuit or want to understand the facts behind dog breed restrictions in home insurance and rentals, we shed light on which animals may present the greatest danger. We also uncover who may be at

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*Pitbull-type includes 4 unique breeds + 4 pitbull-type mixed breeds (American Pit Bull Terrier mix, American Staffordshire Terrier mix, Staffordshire Bull Terrier mix, and American Bully mix).

Fatal Dog Attacks in the U.S. — Breeds, Statistics, & Studies

According to CDC data, there are an average of 43 fatal dog attacks each year in the United States, disproportionately affecting adults (~65%), followed by children (~25%) and infants (~10%). Since 2016, at least 82 different breeds and mixed breeds have been implicated in fatal attacks...

www.fataldogattacks.org

84%​

Percentage of fatal dog attacks that involve dogs that aren't neutered. Intact male dogs are associated with higher rates of aggression.

9%​

Percentage of a dog's behavior attributable to breed, confirming that breed has a minimal impact on behavior.

0.00001%​

The risk of being fatally attacked by a dog (of any breed). On average every year in the U.S., insects cause more fatalities (~104) than dogs (~43).

Dog Attack Statistics By Breed 2024

Dog attacks can be frightening and can cause devastating injuries. Whether you’re considering a dog bite lawsuit or want to understand the facts behind dog breed restrictions in home insurance and rentals, we shed light on which animals may present the greatest danger. We also uncover who may be at

www.forbes.com

*Pitbull-type includes 4 unique breeds + 4 pitbull-type mixed breeds (American Pit Bull Terrier mix, American Staffordshire Terrier mix, Staffordshire Bull Terrier mix, and American Bully mix).

The breed that commits the most attacks overall is pit bulls.​

Pit bulls are involved in more dog attacks than any other breed. In fact, the American Animal Hospital Association reports this breed was responsible for 22.5% of bites across all studies. Mixed breeds were a close second at 21.2% and German Shepherds were the third most dangerous breed, involved in 17.8% of bite incidents.⁶

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Sure, 90%+, I understand the feelings but I don't understand the math. Plus what people and all the statistics call a "pit bull" are actually multiple breeds so, sure, pit bull "type".

From 1979-1998
66 Pit Bull "type"
39 Rottweiler
17 German Shepherd
15 Husky "type"
12 Malamute
9 Doberman
8 Chow Chow
7 Great Dane
7 St. Bernard

66 out of 180 == 90%+

Dog Attack Statistics By Breed 2024

Dog attacks can be frightening and can cause devastating injuries. Whether you’re considering a dog bite lawsuit or want to understand the facts behind dog breed restrictions in home insurance and rentals, we shed light on which animals may present the greatest danger. We also uncover who may be at

www.forbes.com

*Pitbull-type includes 4 unique breeds + 4 pitbull-type mixed breeds (American Pit Bull Terrier mix, American Staffordshire Terrier mix, Staffordshire Bull Terrier mix, and American Bully mix).

Fatal Dog Attacks in the U.S. — Breeds, Statistics, & Studies

According to CDC data, there are an average of 43 fatal dog attacks each year in the United States, disproportionately affecting adults (~65%), followed by children (~25%) and infants (~10%). Since 2016, at least 82 different breeds and mixed breeds have been implicated in fatal attacks...

www.fataldogattacks.org

84%​

Percentage of fatal dog attacks that involve dogs that aren't neutered. Intact male dogs are associated with higher rates of aggression.

9%​

Percentage of a dog's behavior attributable to breed, confirming that breed has a minimal impact on behavior.

0.00001%​

The risk of being fatally attacked by a dog (of any breed). On average every year in the U.S., insects cause more fatalities (~104) than dogs (~43).

Dog Attack Statistics By Breed 2024

Dog attacks can be frightening and can cause devastating injuries. Whether you’re considering a dog bite lawsuit or want to understand the facts behind dog breed restrictions in home insurance and rentals, we shed light on which animals may present the greatest danger. We also uncover who may be at

www.forbes.com

*Pitbull-type includes 4 unique breeds + 4 pitbull-type mixed breeds (American Pit Bull Terrier mix, American Staffordshire Terrier mix, Staffordshire Bull Terrier mix, and American Bully mix).

The breed that commits the most attacks overall is pit bulls.​

Pit bulls are involved in more dog attacks than any other breed. In fact, the American Animal Hospital Association reports this breed was responsible for 22.5% of bites across all studies. Mixed breeds were a close second at 21.2% and German Shepherds were the third most dangerous breed, involved in 17.8% of bite incidents.⁶

To be clear, are we talking about data from 1979-1998?

That was 45 years to 26 years ago.

It helps your cause to use data that is old enough to remember life before cell phones. Please look at current data.

 

[beetroot]

The biggest issue is that pitbulls (amd other breeds) have been specifically breed to be as powerful as possible, so when they do attack someone they often do serious damage.

My brother a month or so ago was attacked by a pitbull while the owner wasn't watching. It seemed perfectly friendly at first but decided to assert dominance and lunged for his neck.
Luckily it "only" ripped a chuck of skin off and didn't get a proper hold.

Just like bull dogs, pugs, german shepherds, stupid people train/selectively breed animals to look or behave a certain way (mostly for showing) and it introduces defects into the breed.
Unfortunately whereas pugs have been breed in a way that they can't breed, pitbulls have been breed in a away that they kill people.

The breed isn't necessarily the problem but the continued selective breeding is.

 

[OldSalty2]

There is also some statistic out there that says Shepherds are the most likely dog to bite. We separate bite data from fatality data because the media wills it.

Since about 1980 to about 2000 pit bull fatalities in the US totaled mid 60s and Rotties totaled about 40. 40 is not a small number either and if it wasn't for Pits Rottweilers would be the focus.

German Shepherds and Huskies are around 15 each in that same time period.

Horrible thing to have happened, wouldn't wish it on anyone undeserving, but I still blame the owner not the dog. I had an uncle who raised dogs and roosters for fighting back in the 60's and it wasn't impossible for us as kids to handle the dogs. But we didn't try to sneak up on them at night.

I think pit bulls get a bad rap because of the type of people who seek them out and how they're treated and raised. I've known too many people with gentle pit bulls and rottweilers to just blanketly blame the dogs.

Where are the statistics for the temperament of the owners whose dogs have attacked people?

Next we'll be blaming guns for violence.

Yea. Dogs will be dogs. But not all dogs or breeds are alike. Part of the issue is inexperienced suburban/city folk that get large more aggressive breeds because it makes them look cool/edgy and gets their desired attention on tik-tok or insta. They see a big soft smiling fur ball and do not respect nor appreciate what that fur ball is capable of. The "my dog would never" crowd are part of the problem because I'd imagine they are the ones who are going to be more reckless with their dog's interactions...or leave dogs alone with their kids, etc...

Don't even get me started about the people who can't seem capable of keeping their dogs on their property and they just run wild.

 

[918v]

How many people have been mauled to death by a pack of vicious beagles?

 

[gigamortis]

A couple of "lap baby" pits got loose on our street a few weeks ago and killed our beloved 13 year old female cat in our own backyard. We weren't home at the time, but our neighbors witnessed the two dogs that did it and ran them off. We know where the dogs live.

I already discovered one of them running loose by itself a week later and tried antagonizing it to charge me so I would be justified putting it down via pistol. It was a coward without its fellow pack buddy and wouldn't come close to me. I ended up feeding it some special brownies I had made up with dark cocoa and xylitol sweetener. I fed that bastard 3 pans of those brownies. I haven't seen that dog in two weeks since. I hope it died a horrible death with a big vet bill coming out of the owners pockets trying to save it.

I'm still waiting for an opportunity to get even with the other one. I will not give up until our pet's unnecessary death is avenged.

Needless to say, any loose dog/s from here on out that are physically capable of doing harm to our pets that come in our yard will be put down promptly - no questions asked.

 

[jff_stvns]

All dogs that are in packs have a potential to be lethal.
Dogs have hunted in packs for thousands of years, when one decides to attack it can trigger the pack to go into beast mode.
This is what goes threw my mind when walking my dogs, another agressive dog coming over and attacking me or my dogs.
I carry a steel baton and a HK with 13 124 grn HST’s.
Not sure the legal standing on either attacking my dogs.
If it attacks me I can see maybe a legal standing.
Be hard to watch a dog eating my dog in front of me and not react.
So I have been thinking of carrying a can of bear spray to combat a agressive encounter.
It’s a dam shame this man did not have a firearm with him.
This happened to my dad, pitbull came out of nowhere and attacked his 15 lbs Lancshire terrier.
My dad reached down and picked this pit up and slammed him to the ground and followed up with kicking him in the ribs.
The pit fell back and decided he was not interested in this fight anymore.
He was 77 at the time and has always been a knuckle dragger with a knack for violence, especially when it comes to something he loves.
I always have a fear for stray agressive pits, especially in numbers.
Never go for walks or generally anywhere un armed.

 

[Jsp556]

I worked a cut out truck in the zone 3 & 4 ATL areas for years. Pits, rotties, and Shepards are everywhere in the hoods. Lots of people open the door to talk and dogs “accidentally” get out. Mace or Halt usually stopped pits and rotties but determined Shepards just wouldn’t stop. We weren’t allowed to keep a hand gun or other weapons but those little wooden sticks to check “tire pressure” sure parked a few pits and other aggressive dogs. Most would back off when they saw you would stand your ground.

Owners were always surprised when they’d call the cops about their dead dogs and when the cops arrived they’d always ask if I wanted to press charges. Turning out an aggressive dog is considered assault with a deadly weapon.

Fighting off a dog is scary as hell. Better to stand and fight than try to run. When one is fully committed you have to kill it. That 50-100’ from a house to the street looks like a mile. I couldn’t imagine trying to fight of a pack of 50 plus pound dogs in kill mode.

When I bought my property the broker warned me about a feral pack that had ran them back to their vehicle before. I ended up killing 6 out of the 8. All big mutts.

 

[doubloon]

Please look at current data.

Since 1999 there have been about 110 human fatalities in the US from dog attacks, about 52 attributed to Pit Bull "types" ... "90%+"

A couple honorable mentions of death by French Bulldog and Labrador Retriever as well.

Part of the issue is inexperienced suburban/city folk that get large more aggressive breeds because it makes them look cool/edgy and gets their desired attention

Egggsachary!

I put a neighbor with a Blue Heeler on notice a couple times about his dog coming at me for no reason, even crossing the road to get to me. Just one more time and dead dog. But it didn't happen before the dog bit a 7 year old trick or treater full in the face and sent him to the emergency room for about 20 stitches.

Any dog can be a "bad" dog. Like I said, I'd like to see data on the temperament of the owners of all these dogs involved in attacks.

Never go for walks or generally anywhere un armed.

Si. Out here on a late evening stroll with a cigar it's not entirely uncommon to be "joined" by a pack of curious coyotes. If you're paying attention enough to notice the quiet bastards.

 

[doubloon]

How many people have been mauled to death by a pack of vicious beagles?

How about one case each of death by French Bulldog, Sheltie and Labrador ?

 

[Aftermath]

I have nothing against any breed of dog. Each has been bred for a purpose (generally speaking) and that is what that breed wants to do. Once you take a breed that is bred for a purpose, such as fighting a bovine or, like the Argentinian Dogo to hunt large game, or a Pinscher bred to be a personal protector, and try to turn it into a loving neighborhood pet, that is where the human fucked up, not the dog. Every dog needs a job and should be expected to do that job every single day. A dog with a job makes for a good and not bored out of its fucking mind dog.

That being said, I won't and haven't hesitated to put a dog down once it acted out or I felt threatened. To me, it still wasn't that dogs fault. There are very few truly stupid dogs but there seems to be no limit to stupid dog owners.

I have a 3 year old German Wirehaired Pointer. He is very well trained, if I do say so myself. He is 100% non-aggressive towards people or other dogs. i would never have a bird dog that was aggressive towards my fellow hunters or their dogs and have stopped mid-hunt when some other dudes piece of shit did show aggression.. My UPS guy, first time he delivered, asked if my dog was aggressive and I explained that he was not, he could pet him and I encouraged him to. Feed him a treat. Just make damned sure he didn't hitch a ride before you drive off. HAHA!! He loves to go for a ride.

I have a 2 year old mini Dachshund, super chill. No problems.

Her biological sister, same parents but a litter or two apart is a different story. Very sweet, loves to be petted and wants to cuddle...me. She loves my wife but she has made the decision that I am her guy. I call her my sweet little savage. Definitely a killer and has been since she was about 10 weeks old and brought me a dead crayfish. She brings me trophies, like dead mice. It's wonderful. She is our watch dog and nothing gets in the yard without her knowing. She barks at anyone pulling into the drive while the other 2 just wag their tails. I don't and likely never will trust her to not bite....but just stay in your damned car if you weren't invited and you won't get bit. I tell her hush and she does, it's all good thereafter. I don't scold her for alerting because at least one of the dogs should alert us, right? I want Guineas or a couple of Peacocks for alarms. Once someone is "allowed" to be here, she is a different dog. Even if she has never met you, you are her new best friend.

 

[Bullfrog08]

These threads always confirm that if the sky was clear and blue outside we could argue about the color of the sky. At some point in these threads, some one will call someone else a liberal, commie, retard, fucktard, or something similar. I'm convinced, dogs (including pit bulls) are smarter than humans!

People scratching their heads and asking themselves........"why is society such a mess"????????? Hmmmm, what could it be?

 

[supercorndogs]

I just peeked out the window. Can not confirm the sky is blue. Looks black to me.

Here what I think it is. It's that ugly old beast. People should only be free to make the choices I think they should make.

 

[Rthur]

R

 

[EddieNFL]

Maybe Rock, Paper, Scissors

…Spock

 

[davsco]

wife and i were walking with our golden retriever on a local trail and came upon a young teen girl walking two pits. they were literally dragging her to get to us. thank heavens she was able to dig in her heels and barely hold on.

 

[Romeo458]

This dog will viciously drool on you for attention. I've seen it, I've experienced it.

The one at the house I'm working in doesn't drool, but she will come right up and push against your leg for attention. I don't have a pic of her, but she's adorable too

Both dogs are part of loving families, just like the one Rottweiler I know, he's a dork just like his dad. 3 Sheppard in the family, all 100lb (except Freya who's a few months old) cuddle bugs. Sigh barks viciously when I arrive, but she's basically an excited child yelling "Uncle is here"

This 9mm Glock is popular with bangers and Glocks are used in a lot of homicides. We probably shouldn't let people have them because they are so popular with bad people, even thoughthis one is in a loving home and hasnt done anything wrong. That's exactly how some of you sound.

 

[Brasscow]

You people are delusional. A gun is an inanimate object. The two aren’t comparable.

There are some things you should cross the street when you see. Pitbull is one of them. Usually if there’s a pitbull there are two reasons to cross the street. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

 

[supercorndogs]

If you're scared of dogs it's best to avoid them. If you don't know how to handle a gun it best avoid them. If you don't know how to shoot you're like most people I see at the range.

 

[OldSalty2]

How many people have been mauled to death by a pack of vicious beagles?

 

[BCP]

She blames the owners for teaching them to be that way? No, they are vicious dogs. That’s another good reason to always be packing a pistol

Yeap typical ghetto hyenas. I don't trust those things doesn't matter how many pictures dumbasses post of their daughter hugging the family pitbull etc.

 

[BCP]

That pic of him on the video, probably a selfie, looks like he may have had some habits not condusive to a stable life.

He looked homeless/methy to me too, not like a bicyclist ie spandex and granola bars, that doesn't mean he deserves to be eaten alive by wild dogs though.

 

[TexPatriot]

He looked homeless/methy to me too, not like a bicyclist ie spandex and granola bars, that doesn't mean he deserves to be eaten alive by wild dogs though.

He looks like the subject matter on the show Intervention or a victim on the First 48 Hours.

I think the family may have left out the part where he suffered from addiction, mental-illness and was homeless, which is their right.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

He looks like the subject matter on the show Intervention or a victim on the First 48 Hours.

I think the family may have left out the part where he suffered from addiction, mental-illness and was homeless, which is their right.

I don't think any of that was really relevant to the story.

"Drug addicted homeless man ripped apart by a pack of shit bulls while riding his bicycle" just doesn't have the same appeal..

 

[TexPatriot]

Yeap typical ghetto hyenas. I don't trust those things doesn't matter how many pictures dumbasses post of their daughter hugging the family pitbull etc.

I knew a horse woman that collected dogs and had three good dogs plus a pitbull puppy she rescued off the street. That puppy was sweet and thrived but at three months was already a PITA as it played too rough with the other dogs, always had to win in it's mock battles with the good dogs and left your hand bleeding with it's needle like puppy teeth. It was just a matter of time before it killed one of the older good dogs like an old Pug it was constantly bullying.

One day a worker working on the house came in and told her she might want to do something about the pitbull attacking a pet goat in the yard and was latched onto it's ear.

The woman took her Glock, went outside and Ka-pow. She said later said the prey drive would have kicked in and it would have attacked a horse and she was right.

 

[Dirty D]

She blames the owners for teaching them to be that way? No, they are vicious dogs. That’s another good reason to always be packing a pistol

 

[TexPatriot]

I don't think any of that was really relevant to the story.

"Drug addicted homeless man ripped apart by a pack of shit bulls while riding his bicycle" just doesn't have the same appeal..

No, it wasn't relevant. Thats why I said it was the families right to leave it out in their description.

But I disagree with your assertion that "A pack of pitbulls drags homeless man off his bike and mauls him to death" wouldn't generate just as much, if not more, appeal.

 

[Eostech]

Just like bull dogs, pugs, german shepherds, stupid people train/selectively breed animals to look or behave a certain way (mostly for showing) and it introduces defects into the breed.
Unfortunately whereas pugs have been breed in a way that they can't breed, pitbulls have been breed in a away that they kill people.

Pitbulls or pit dogs were bred from the best fighting dogs from hundreds of years of pit fighting.

You end up with smallish sized dogs that are extremely powerful and have a certain gameness other breeds lack.

Look at the size of their heads and the jaw structure and then compare them to chihuahua for not just aggression but the ability to inflict damage.

Of course people had diluted the bloodlines with trash but ultimately the base breed was designed to fight and kill.

 

[Eostech]

He looked homeless/methy to me too, not like a bicyclist ie spandex and granola bars, that doesn't mean he deserves to be eaten alive by wild dogs though.

About the only people that deserve that are pedos.

 

[918v]

I knew a horse woman that collected dogs and had three good dogs plus a pitbull puppy she rescued off the street. That puppy was sweet and thrived but at three months was already a PITA as it played too rough with the other dogs, always had to win in it's mock battles with the good dogs and left your hand bleeding with it's needle like puppy teeth. It was just a matter of time before it killed one of the older good dogs like an old Pug it was constantly bullying.

One day a worker working on the house came in and told her she might want to do something about the pitbull attacking a pet goat in the yard and was latched onto it's ear.

The woman took her Glock, went outside and Ka-plow. She said later said the prey drive would have kicked in and it would have attacked a horse and she was right.

Just like you would not want to keep a shark as a pet in your swimming pool.

 

[Maser]

Sallie Ann Jarrett - Wikipedia

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[Maser]

Just like you would not want to keep a shark as a pet in your swimming pool.

That would actually be cool. Dogfish are cute!